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New Branches of the Mullah's Lobby

I am surprised that no one has yet investigated the expansion of the Mullah's lobby to Anaheim, CA and Orlando, FL, along their chief operative in these two fronts, Aladdin. He must surely somehow be linked to NIAC, the CIA, and the Prince of Persia franchise.

Looking forward to some Pulitzer-quality investigative reporting from Mr. Daioleslam, et al.

Talebi and Trita are clowns

they use to say that 85% of the people want reform in iran.  this is even after people were in the streets yelling marg bar khamenei, esteghlal azadi hokoomaateh irani.

 these discredited fools have nothing to stand on because they put all their chips on the regime and the iranian people exposed the regime.

these niac clowns have no idea and are only in it for power and money.

Gordzad mamnoon

Dear Gordzad,

Thank you for your kind comments. And you are most welcomed.

Best,

Masoud

Gordzad - for NIAC's accomplishments, see my blog

Gordzad,

I listed NIAC's accomplishments in my blog and questioned the critics' motives and accomlishments.  Regarding the lecture at the CIA, I as well as Ari answered for NIAC, as in my blog: "Sorry… mind if I mop while you mope?" at: 

//iranian.com/main/blog/mm/sorry-mind-if-i-mop-while-you-mope

Most of NIAC’s critics cannot even make up their minds if Trita Parsi is an IRI agent, a US agent or even a double agent.  If NIAC, “as an IRI agent”, got grants from the Feds, well, shame on the Feds...Then, write to the Feds and complain.  If Trita Parsi lectured/consulted with the White House, the Congress, the FBI and even the CIA… So be it.  As an American institution representing a portion of the Iranian-Americans, it just goes to show that NIAC is well respected and called upon to give a perspective to the other American institutions. 

So, as the cartoon that I chose depicts (w/ apologies to our resident psychiatrists): While ya’ll bitch, moan and play the blame-game, NIAC is actually succeeding in achieving tangible results (//iranian.com/main/blog/mm/sorry-mind-if-i-mop-while-you-mope).

Gordzad

It's quite the opposite experience for me. Having gone through this 
blog it has reaffirmed my belief that Massoud Kazemzadeh has weak
analytical skills, is here just to smear NIAC and not really seeks the
truth. It also shows the lack of sufistication of Mr. Kazemzadeh and
those who agree with him.

As for your observations, it would not come as a suprise to me as you seem to be against NIAC's policy positions. (eg. approve of sanctioning Iranians).

WOW!

I started reading this blog a couple of nights ago and it really amazes me. I know almost nothinhg about MK and very little abouut NIAC. However, it seems that nobody has the ability to respond to MK's simple questions, despite him asking for straight "Yes" or "No" answers. There are so much talks around the main topic by usual suspects (of the Islamic Rapist Regime) without answering any of the question that I wonder if the issue is not already clear. Looking at the lack of any intelligent and simple answer to MK's quetions in 5 pages of blogging, I belive MK's message has gone through.

MK, thanks for sticking to the point and staying calm against the Sundisis.

NIAC's actions/results at "Sorry… mind if I mop while you mope?"

//iranian.com/main/blog/mm/sorry-mind-if-...

yavaash kashi nashkaneh! (to taghootishodeh)

Taghootshekan says: "There is no doubt that the Iranian expat community are full of
traitors, homosexuals, communists, terrorists, swindlers, bahais and
other nefarious kinds."

Hazrate Taaghootishodeh, Based on ample amount of corruption that I saw in Iran in my last visit (just a few years ago) those who once were speaking of 'Taaghootshekani' have created a much more sophisticated form of corruption that even the old Taaghooties look VERY good compared to them!

Savvy! (*)

(*)--English for moltafeti

Iranian expats are traitors

There is no doubt that the Iranian expat community are full of traitors, homosexuals, communists, terrorists, swindlers, bahais and other nefarious kinds. They will say and do anything for a few $.

عیب می‌‌جمله چون گفتی‌ هنرش نیز بگو

As you may know Dr Kazemzadeh and I have crossed swords a number of times in the past and there are still a few issues that remain unresolved between us. But despite our disagreements I must highly commend him on his resolute stance and his unflinching loyalty on the subject that he chooses to defend including the present one. If he has proven one thing, in the course of the two blogs he has authored, it must be the undeniable fact that NIAC's leadership as well as some of its membership and supporters are potentially prepared to forge alliances at the right price. To them, it is the "price" that counts and not the "principles." The bulk of the replies to Dr Kazemzadeh's questions is proof to the gravity of the issue.

I am sorry if some of my friends on this thread may not approve of  my comment but I refer them to the grand advice of Hafez in the title of this comment.

FR

Kazemzadeh you are very honest!

Kezemzadeh, have you seen Pirates of Caribbean? the part that Jack Sparrow says:

"Me? I'm dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for, ......."

Savvy Kazemzadeh?

Honest Answers Good; Insults Bad

Moosir,

1. I am interested in the truth.

2. I learned several things from the two blogs.  I hope to learn more.

3. These questions and issues are NOT nonsense.

4. Instead of insults, honest answers to objectives questions would be appreciated.

Masoud

It makes me think

After all these posts it makes me think if Mr. Kazemzadeh is at all interested in the truth or just wants to create controversy and smear NIAC.If this is the case then shame on you Mr. Kazemzadeh. If not then I dont know what else Iranians could say to keep you at ease regarding NIAC.

By the way, isnt it intersting that the two most discussed topics on iranian.com just happens to be NIAC? Coincidence? maybe we are playing into the hands of these NIAC bashers by responding to their repeated nonsense. 

And your confusion still continues

So what? Many people have commented here, major figures, musicians, businessmen, political figures. There are tons of other blogs that Governors and Senators have had postings on. NIAC members have postings here. Doesn't meant they should come when you snap your fingers. Do you really have that big of an ego, that you think people should respond to your vailed accusations just because you say so? Nice try at sophistry, once again, congratulations to you.

The point is, you have a perfectly good and certain way of contacting the organization officially, if you want a response but you refused to do it. This is because these questions are not sincere, they are only excuses for your character assassination. I would not answer them, even if I was representing NIAC. In fact probably no major organization would do it. You are perfectly aware of this.

So, once again, you fail if you think your audience is too stupid to realize what you are doing.

The Questions Remain

Q,

1. NIAC officials post on Iranian.com

If I am not mistaken Mr. Babak Talebi is an official of NIAC. He has been posting here and is a poster.

//iranian.com/main/user/babak-talebi/track

Mr. Jamal Abdi just published an article on Iranian.com. He is apparently the "Policy Director" at NIAC.

//iranian.com/main/2010/oct/arabian-gulf

//iranian.com/main/member/jamal-abdi

Official or officials of NIAC have been and are present at Iranian.com.

2. RP and Gov. Brown do not post on Iranian.com.

Monarchists post official statement of RP on Iranian.com

You can ask RP and/or monarchists questions and see whether or not they are able to provide answers.

3. Members of NIAC post here. They can get the official NIAC response to these questions.

Therefore, the questions REMAIN.

Still beating this dead

Still beating this dead horse I see, Masoud.

Such utter lameness reminds me well of the reasons you folks were so roundly defeated back in '79. And what's more, you deserved it. 

Kazemzadeh are you confused?

I'm not from NIAC. So how could I possibly provide honest answers for you?

As people fully explained to you many times, this is just like if I put up a bunch of leading questions "yes or no" addressed to "Reza Pahlavi" or "Gov. Jerry Brown". They will be ignored and you know it full well. You choose not to contact NIAC which proves the questions are not sincere and this is all about accusations. That is why you are exposed as a propagandist character assassin as opposed to a guy seeking answers. I hope this clarifies your obvious confusion.

So, YOU have long failed, if you think your audience is too stupid to realize what you are doing.

Q, You failure AGAIN: the Questions remain

Q,

You are still doing the same things. It did not work before.  And it wont work now.

1. More insults instead of providing honest answers to the questions of the blog.

2. No body is going to fall for your failed tactic of changing the subject.

3. You can jump up and down another 100 times, the subject of this blog remains. There are 6 precise objective questions:

1. Has Dr. Trita Parsi given a lecture or lectures for the CIA? Please a simple "yes" or "no."

2. How many times has Dr. Trita Parsi presented talks for the CIA? Please a simple number like "1," "2," "20."

3. How many times has Dr. Trita Parsi provided consultations for the CIA? Lets define "consultation" as "any question and answer session." Please a simple number like "1," "2," "20."

4. Is the decision to provide a talk to the CIA by the President of NIAC, a personal decision by Dr. Parsi or is it an organizational decision by NIAC?

5. Before the article by Lake, did the NIAC organization inform its members that the President of NIAC has presented lecture or lectures for the CIA? Please either "yes" or "no."

6. What has been the relationship between NIAC and Atieh Bahar?

LOL!

So, thanks at least for admitting getting into the stalker questions was very much "off topic" and that you yourself participated in changing the subject which is hypocrisy as I explained. 

Sure the questions do remain, and they probably will forever because you aren't interested in answers. People have told you how to get them. If I put up questions to Reza Pahlavi, Gov. Jerry Brown, or Barak Obama, it will probably be met by the same fate. But of course, I realize who I can contact, or write by mail if I'm actually curious about something. Otherwise, everyone pretty much knows that it's going to be BS political grandstanding, and not serious. That's what people have realized here.

But as these questions remain so do these:

no NIAC officials here that we have seen.

point raised in the comments by more than one person: WHY DON'T YOU JUST CALL NIAC AND ASK? Your response: BS and changing the subject

point raised in the comments: WHY IS THIS A BIG DEAL? Your response: BS and changing the subject

point raised on the comments: WHAT ABOUT ALL THE QUESTIONS MM GOT YOU ANSWERS FOR? Your response: BS and changing the subject

Q you FAILED

Q,

Obviously, your tactics failed.

1. The questions of the blog REMAIN. The nature of the relationship between Dr. Parsi and the CIA, and the relationship between Dr. Parsi, Khajepour and the officials of the fundamentalist regime.

2. Your tactic to change the subject FAILED. We are still talking about the nature of the relationship between Dr. Parsi and the CIA.

3. The personal attacks and insults on me by you and other NIAC supporters are here for all to see. These are reflections on YOU and THOSE who insult instead of providing honest answers. You and other NIAC supporters even failed to make the mud to stick.

:-)

Masoud

Good one Masoud! You are KING of sophistry

Title of the blog: Questions For NIAC Official

no NIAC officials here that we have seen.

point raised in the comments by more than one person: WHY DON'T YOU JUST CALL NIAC AND ASK? Your response: BS and changing the subject

point raised in the comments: WHY IS THIS A BIG DEAL? Your response: BS and changing the subject

point raised on the comments: WHAT ABOUT ALL THE QUESTIONS MM GOT YOU ANSWERS FOR? Your response: BS and changing the subject

Now, other attackdogs show up and make irrelevant accusations having nothing to do with your subject. Your response: join in and contribute to the same nonsequitor! And at the same time cry about "changing the subject"

You truly are the King of sophistry. Anything I have commented on had directly to do with your questions for NIAC. But you now pretend like irrelevant stalker BS, on a completely different subject having nothing to do with this blog, without context or dates given, and obviously meant to derail the discussion are "on the subject". Pure hypocrisy.

Thank You Iraneh Azad

Dear Iraneh Azad,

Wow. Thank you for placing Q’s statements. So, according to Q, the fundamentalist terrorist regime is a democracy and the Supreme Leader is sort of like Chief Justice. I had not read Q very much before.

Q: "So we have to admit, there is such a thing as a continuom...... The system as it is designed currently can deliver much better democracy. For example: if the Guardian Council starts vetting candidates less and less. The Supreme Leader could show less and less initiative. The foreign policy council could be dominated more and more by the popularly elected President (That's Ahmadinejad by the way). The system can move very far toward perfect democracy."

Q: "The fact that there is strict eligability requirement is not a reason to call it undemocratic."

Q: "In Iran, the role of Supreme Leader is closest to a "chief justice" since he has no proper legislative functions."

Best,

Masoud

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Q,

Obviously your tactic failed here.  Moreover, you have undermined yourself.

1. The subject of this blog is on: (I) the nature of Dr. Trita Parsi’s relationship with the CIA; (II) the role of NIAC as an organization on this relationship with the CIA; and (III) the relationship between Dr. Parsi and Khajepour and the relationship between Atieh Bahar and officials of the fundamentalist regime.

2. Instead of discussing these subjects, you make weird personal attacks on me. You also try to change the subject with utter nonsense. You failed here. It is clear to any sane person that the subject is not working for the US government. The subject is working with the CIA, the SPY agency.

The readers of this site are educated and would not fall for such tactics. The readers can see your weird personal insults to me instead of providing answers to the blog’s questions.

The subject is still HERE: the nature of the relationship between Dr. Trita Parsi and the CIA.

Masoud

Yawn...

To my dear Stalker,

Glad you showd up on cue trying to change the subject, with exactly the same kind of smear job that I was trying to explain. Sometimes the purpose of your life is just to provide an example to others. Now, if you have a question about anything I have said, you can link to the original context and date, and then ask an actual question about it. Of course, we all know from your stalking reputation that you also don't really care about the truth, and just want to show a bunch of text with my name and some scary sounding words. FOX news smear tactics yet again. We're not stupid! But seriously, thanks for the example!

G. Rahmanian

You are right on point. NIAC & CASMII are up to no good and do not represent Iranian American interest or Iranians in Iran. NIAC in particular only wants to compete with AIPAC and is doing a pretty crappy job at it. AIPAC represents Israel's interest, not American Jews. NIAC represent IRI interests, not Iranian American's interest. Neither AIPAC or NIAC give two shits about human rights, they just talk about it when its convenient for them or have no other choice. NIAC suddenly became human rights activists after June 09. They had no other choice because they represented the "reformist" camp of IRI.

To my Dear Hezbollahi Q who always childishly feels stalked like some Hollywood actress,

a BIG "YAWN" as you always do......

You speak of "context"? The context in all of your statements below was about the same typical subjects you arrogantly attack people on. It was, as always, all about your context of defending the failed revolution, IRI and its supporters CASMII and NIAC.

Now You can not defend any of these statements that you made so you resort to self serving and grandiose fantasies about stalkers.

Only a kaleh shagh would dare to defend the statements you made below. That is why you do not dare to defend the statements today. On the other hand, after all the sophistry made by you below, you shamelessly without any remorse resort to character assassination of people who rightfully ask hard questions about the IRI supporting NIAC.

Aghaye Irandoost: then

Aghaye Irandoost: then please send your letter on behalf of "real" pro democracy

I will hope you will first try to understand and respect Iranian-American community a bit more if you ever want to be in the position to speak for them. Your comment is insulting at best to so many Iranians, as it says those of us and I am sure there are countless of Iranian-American in this group, that where not consulted with about your view are not "real" pro democracy people, yet you gave yourself to speak on our behave. How many "real" pro democracy Iranians did you get to share your letter before sending?

I wrote to you here for two reasons… first you failed to respond to the questions that was raised to you in your blog, secondly I think it is important to know the character of the person who makes such strong accusation/charges against another person, in this case Mr. Parsi.

Mehrdad

PinoQ

"Glad you showd up on cue trying to change the subject, with exactly the same kind of smear job that I was trying to explain. "

PinoQ, are you referring to Iran Azad? If so what smear job? Weren't those exactly your own words at some point before the June events? There is a difference between a smear job and exposing a person's long nose.

Why don't you go through each of those items and tell us, in details, what your views are today. My guess? They are still exactly the same. If I am wrong, then why don't you tell us what part of your 7th century views have changed since June 2009.

But be careful with that nose now!

Irandoost, why not lead by example?

You were asked a few questions as well. Don't you also claim to be the leader of an Iranian organization PDMI? Does Kazemzadeh also try to look out for your members, or is his fake "concerns" just a politcal ploy, as it has been proven so far?

I have a lot of questions to ask you. What's the matter with answering them? Are you holding yourself to a different standard?

Do you agree that NIAC is a 501c3?  yes   or   no

What is it with NIAC-hating Texas-based Iranian "doctors", and their identical interrogation styles? Once again, this is not FOX news. If you actually care about this question or any other, you can find them out yourself anytime you want. Most of them you can look up or some of them you can contact NIAC by mail. So once again, we conclude that you and your fellow doctor are being dishonest, you are just engaging in a transparent and badly executed smear job. That's ALL!

To my dear Stalker,

Glad you showd up on cue trying to change the subject, with exactly the same kind of smear job that I was trying to explain. Sometimes the purpose of your life is just to provide an example to others. Now, if you have a question about anything I have said, you can link to the original context and date, and then ask an actual question about it. Of course, we all know from your stalking reputation that you also don't really care about the truth, and just want to show a bunch of text with my name and some scary sounding words. FOX news smear tactics yet again. We're not stupid! But seriously, thanks for the example!

Irane Azad,

When I wrote below about the paid and unpaid IR supporters, I was referring to such individuals who rabidly champion the cause of the bankrupt regime inTehran. In the face of regime's most heinous crimes these entities either support such acts or remain silent. Any organization or individual that under the pretext of saving Irandoes not condemn the crimes perpetrated by the regime againstIranian citizens cannot be trusted and does not represent Iranians.Those individuals or organizations which turn a blind eye to crimescommitted by the regime or seek to distort Iran's history of the past threedecades by blaming "external enemies" are either paid to do so or have vested interest in the prolongation of the life of the regime of terror in Iran.

Dear Q

First things first:

Do you agree that NIAC is a 501c3?  yes   or   no

Do you agree that as a 501c3 NIAC is subject to open rcords(FOIA=freedom of information act)? yes or no

Should Iranian American be able to ask questions of an oragnization who has gone to Congress and claims that it represents the Iranian American Community?  yes or no

That is simply what Kazemzadeh wants to know.

Should NIAC respond?  yes or no,  and if not,  then why not!

Why it is such a taboo to ask questions of our "so-called" leaders?

Aghaye Mehrdad

My letter was shared with numerous "real" pro democracy activists and leaders before it went out.  

Besides, my open letter has got ntohing to do with the discussion here, my assertaion was and is that NIAC is a 501 c3 tax exempt, do you know what that means?  That means that NIAC is obligated by law to disclose any and all information that it engages in on behalf of Iranian Americans. And ANY tax paying Iranian American or a US citizen has the right to ask for such information.

Now if you want to obfustcate ..that is totally a different matter.    I am simply reacting to commnet made in this blog and questions asked of NIAC. Lets stay focused.