Iranians in Psychotherapy

Mina

Please pay attention to Aboli's comment and if possible respond.

To answer to your other point, was the shah's response a reflection of our society, the anwswer is no, it was not a true reflection of the views of the masses.

His views was far too advanced, despite of his Fallaci interview, than the general public's. The view of the masses was what you are seeing today in Iran under the IRI.

The view of a large minority, but still a minority, of Iranians who believe in true equal rights for women was ingrained into their minds by the Pahalvis and NONE other than the Pahlavis.

I encourage you to read about women's state of affair in the 1920s, just before Reza shah took over.

عیب می جمله بگفتی هنرش نیز بگوی

Name one Iranian leader in the history of Iran who has done more for women's rights than the late Shah.

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I personally remember the interview, it made quite of noise when he showed his real nature .

-YT

Dear Doctor Dadvar,

You didn’t really need to start a new blog for what you said in that blog. You could’ve said it right here as a comment and that would’ve kept the dialogue going right here.

Also, if you need to edit your comment, let’s say because you have a typo error, there is a “Edit” button for posted comments also, click on it and edit your comment, BUT you have to do that before anyone replys to it by click on the “Reply” button. Your last comment could’ve been corrected by using the “Edit” button.

Shah's Opinion

• Dear Anonymous read the blog again.  I am not relying on Fallaci's question to understand our culture.  I am paying attention to Shah's responses and its implications for Iranian women. 

Shah's Opinion

• Please read my blog called "Missing the point of, Shah's opinion of women, blog". Date of entry April 20.
•  May be, I did not communicate the main point of this blog well enough. The majority of commentators have ignored two important questions .  First, was Shah's views a reflection of our society's opinion about women ?  Second, how has this issue affected the Iranian women' self-image and why ?  

Sha'hs Opinion

• Please read my blog called "Missing the point of, Shah's opinion of women, blog". Date of entry April 20.
•  May be, I did not communicate the main point of this blog well enough. The majority of commentators have ignored two important questions .  First, was Shah's views a reflection of our society's opinion about women ?  Second, how has this issue affected the Iranian women' self-image and why ?  

If you can't get it, you will never undrestand

Its like other rednecks, once I was talking to the painter of my house, I was arguing with him, how destroying the stem cells rather than having them do good for human's is God's wish. His reply was he does not know, but he knows stem cell usage is against god's will.
Until 1900 catholic church was against surgery on humans, that was God's province. Anyway people with dogma will never get it. Only the history will pass them, Khomeini is buried in Iran.

Dear "minadadvar",

this Shah´s interview is well known and has already been discussed on iranian.com quite often. Yes, Shah really cocked up.

But: That was 1972, Farah´s cultural work had a high impact on Shah´s view, and everyone is allowed to become better person; I think at least in this case he improved. On the other hand, we know how Iranian men are ;)

Brilliant Discovery

"In fact any old(!) physician could tell him that women are centuries(!) ahead of men in development(!)."
Now, that is brilliant!LOL...
What the hell does this mean?
Another brilliant comment by this commentator

Typical

First of all it was a stupid argument, but more importantly it shows his arrogance. He thinks that his pronouncements are the last word, the lowly humans have never figured it out. In fact any old physician could tell him that women are centuries ahead of men in development. Their bodies can reproduce, feed the kids and believe it or not they are mentally more mature through infancy and teenage years. They have always been subjugated because males are stronger. It was just a stupid position and he thinks its a brilliant discovery. Thats why Khomeini was able to throw him out, he never had any touch with reality.

What?

"have tremendous respect for Fallaci's work."

Do you even know her past work?

It is a sad state affair when Iranians rely on the likes of Fallaci in order to understand their own culture.

Sad indeed.

Mina Jaan

From this perspective I fully agree with you and would add this to Oriana Fallacci's Credit that the Shah, unilke some great Speakers and debators like Ronald Reagan, Winston Churchill or Charles De Gaulle who knew how to handle journalists and intellectual discourse that the Shah unfortunately was a VERY BAD COMMUNICATOR !

It Cost Him his Throne ! ...

Shah's Opinion

• Dear Darius,  thanks for your comprehensive response.  The main point of this blog is not to criticize Shah.  It is to explore some of the cultural factors that have been influencial in development of a sense of insecurity and inadequacy in Iranian women.  This interview makes this point more interesting.
• I do not consider myself a feminist , but have tremendous respect for Fallaci's work.  I also have read a number of her books and find her to be a facinating journalist.    

Baba, He was just Provoking Oriana Fallacci for PLAYBOY MAG...

With Due Respect Mrs Dadvar but For Heaven's Sakes Do You even Know Oriana Fallacci's Reputation ? She Started her Career in TABLOID newspapers before becoming a War Correspondent so Oriana Was the Type of interviewer you LOVED TO HATE ! and She Knew it ! She Was Brave and I think she had many qualities for which one could admire but she knew how to use the Media Scene to destabilize the adversary she wanted to interview. Feminist Should Stop Seeing Men in Such ONE DIMENSIONAL Ways. I don't approve of the Shah's Comments in this Interview but knowing how Fallacci would conduct her interviews I am not surprised by his Provocative Answers.

I have read several of her past interviews ranging from Sean Connery (which Oriana Fallacci said she Absolutely Found as being the Nicest guy on earth and the opposite of James Bond )  to Yasser Arafat, Quaddafi, Kissinger and even Khomeiny. She was known to try and put Leaders and Men in particular in a difficult composure by provoking them in different ways and not just through questions. She loved challenging the person being interviewed nearly like a hunter chasing her prey.

Look at the other bold female Jounralist Barbara Walters (who in the past interviewed the Shah which she actually found charismatic and charming) interview Sean Connery :

The Shah's answers were not diplomatic and I don't approve what he said but it was more by exasperation and if I am not mistaken this interview was done for a PLAYBOY Issue in the mid 70's when the Shah was at the height of his Power and the West was jealous of him dictating to the West and Hippie Generation of Sex,Drugs and Rock'n Roll that one could see the world with a different and more consevative perspective. And that is why I think the Shah answered her in that way as to Say: "Stop Playing Smart Ass with my Country's Values and traditions on pretexes of being smarter and more emancipated when you have drug addicts and Porn Industry to corrupt your youth". I agree it can sound simplistic today but I truly think many Men would have been tempted answering Fallacci in such a way because she was like an aggressive Tiger refusing to be tamed and playing with your testosterones. ;0)

In Practice the Shah's Policies Promoted IRanian Women more than ANY of His Predecessors and more than ANY other Muslim Country. With Female Ministers like Farrokhro Parsa, To Crowning his Wife the Shahbanou as Equal to all the posts aimed at empowering Women in her country as Opposed to Most Muslim Countries. 

Besides most probably the interview was also aimed at calming the Clerics who despised the Shah's Liberal Policies in Favor of Female Emancipation.

YOU WOMEN LOST IT ALL TO THE MULLAHS AND WITH NAIVE ENTHUSIASM BY DEMONSTRATING BY MILLIONS AGAINST THE SHAH ONLY TO REALIZE A YEAR AFTER HOW FOOLISH YOU WERE !

No One claims the Shah was Perfect but check your sources and try at least to situate the context of ths VERY WELL KNOWN  interview. 

See Below what Margaret Talbot of the New Yorker Says about Oriana Fallacci:

"Yesterday, I was hysterical," the Italian journalist and novelist Oriana Fallaci said. She was telling me a story about a local dog owner and the liberties he'd allowed his animal to take in front of Fallaci's town house, on the Upper East Side. Big mistake. "I no longer have the energy to get really angry, like I used to," she added. It called to mind what the journalist Robert Scheer said about Fallaci after interviewing her for Playboy, in 1981: "For the first time in my life, I found myself feeling sorry for the likes of Khomeini, Qaddafi, the Shah of Iran, and Kissinger--all of whom had been the objects of her wrath--the people she described as interviewing 'with a thousand feelings of rage.' "

For two decades, from the midnineteen-sixties to the mid-nineteen-eighties, Fallaci was one of the sharpest political interviewers in the world. Her subjects were among the world's most powerful figures: Yasir Arafat, Golda Meir, Indira Gandhi, Haile Selassie, Deng Xiaoping. Henry Kissinger, who later wrote that his 1972 interview with her was "the single most disastrous conversation I have ever had with any member of the press," said that he had been flattered into granting it by the company he'd be keeping as part of Fallaci's "journalistic pantheon." It was more like a collection of pelts: Fallaci never left her subjects unskinned.

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