The hoax that is israel palestine non-issue

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The hoax that is israel palestine non-issue
by oktaby
01-Jun-2010
 

The picture you see is Gaza. How many cities in Iran look as nice and plush? But that is not the image everyone in the world sees. 

The day I see palestinians protest for HR of Iranians or any other people; I'll start caring about them. IRR supporters in the guise of HR tow the line palestinian cause and beat their chest have no problem supporting the criminal regime in Tehran, are having a field day with the convoy incident.

Is this a human rights issue, and are israeli's breaking all the rules left and right? No doubt. Does the world care and do something about it? Yes, more so than the attention plight of Iranians gets, and many other HR issues globally. Have the palestinians helped and supported this criminal regime knowing what they do to Iranian people? Yes and happily so. As long as they get paid for it.

The world is full of human rights violations. From Myanmar to pakistan. In all cases the suffocation, deaths, atrocities, shear scale of violence match or exceed palestine. Should we care more about palestine more? Not if you accept the premise that human rights are universal. Aung San Suu Kyi was prohibited from running on elections of Myanmar (among most abused people on the face of this planet) but I don't recall bleeding hearts writing blogs and memos with a typical snide and pompous attitude.

The palestinian life is supported by a slew of NGOs and organizations on top of UN, xyz etc. Plus millions of palestinians all over the world. They have a special status/passport and without them (or the israeli extremism) the middle east chaos cannot be maintained. This conflict supports them both as does tyrannical governments' excuses for existence all over the arab world and of course the IRR since the 79 devolution. palestinians are well aware of this and play along. Does that mean many of them not suffer under their own tyranny supported by IRR and others for a slew of reasons? sure it does.

I don't recall a single instance of meaningful support for Iranian people anywhere in the moslem world either, including many educated arabs here in the west? The very same arabs who bleed for palestine and financially support them. There were hundreds of them protesting in SF just yesterday.

Now when you bleed so hard for palestine, you have other motivations and agenda and little to do with 'suffering. Or, like most you have fallen for the never ending ruse.

If you do it on Iranian.com with all that is going on in Iran, anniversary of selection, rapes, Majid Tavakoli condition and overall context of what is happening to our fatherland, you are an IRR agent or apologist. And a rather shameless one at that.

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chera az khodet maye nemizari khanoom jan? teflaki JANET :(


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say bye to humanity

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NBC nightly news drops "American citizen" story.
They played up the scary martyr word.
They played up "death to Israel"

All the usual Likud tactics.

Actual killing stores? NONE. Witnesses? NONE.

Chants of WANTING TO KILL......

lot of those.

American media = making America less safe. Making Israel a welfare state


My Name Is Borat

Naneh Palestine

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Whenever you want to go back to Iran, I will be more than happy to purchase your one-way ticket.

I also can't wait for the time karma comes back to bite you hard. I picture it now. You will find yourself in some kind of dangerous or precarious situation and are in dire need of assistance. You call out for help, and the only person who approaches is a Palestinian. And the moment he/she realizes that you are an Iranian, they'll walk away saying, "I'll sooner help an Israeli".


Darveesh

Darveesh, now you are spamming by? truth? facts?

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Let you not the truth get on your way


oktaby

Darveesh, now you are spamming

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You brought this up before and got your answer. Do you get overtime for this? or a bonus?

The link I enclosed in my initial comment has vacation links (check it for yourself-it is a palestinian site) and pictures of Gaza, as nice as the one on the blog and tragic ones. The Iraq war gave us several hundred thousand of these dead, rotting boddies thanks to your IRR, that is creating similar tragedies in Iran as we speak. How come you bleed for palestinian and not Iranian? Explain it and I'll do my best to understand it; no matter how twisted.

What part of my key point about focus on Iran don't you understand?

ask specifically and I'll explain. Even if I know it will be an exercise in futility.

OKtaby


Darveesh

hocus pocus by blogger

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NP, I'm still waiting for you to say something new

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or worthwhile. in the context that was summarized again in my synopsis, just in case you cared what this blog is about.You have done your paid duty to distract rather well. That it failed is not your fault. Go on to next mission. anyways. 

OKtaby


Niloufar Parsi

obama

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don't worry. that ain't gonna happen!


maziar 58

vpk

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is obama that bakseroo lureh ///really is RR agent ? 

transl. lure boxer                     Maziar


maziar 58

BORAT

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people like her /it /him are not going down EASY.

so you have to start with fatemeh zahra going to 2 teflane muslim and.....you get the picture.

that's the only way that ends'm to    PISS ;I MEANT PEACE.        Maziar


Onlyiran

I wonder

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why is it that at any given time on IC, we have one user who takes on a female persona and acts as the "sineh chaak" for the IRI and Palestine.  At first it was Jaleho.  But it looks like "her" tour of duty (ma'amoriat) has ended, and "she" has been replaced with this IRI automaton who writes under username Niloufar Parsi.  And why is it that the IRI has to use female persona?  Is it to add insult to the injury for Iranian women, or is it to show that somehow Iranian women love its abuse of them?  very peculiar.  


Niloufar Parsi

borat

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with that attitude you are going to give yourself something nasty. take it easy on yourself.

dan: thanks so much for the great encouragement.  you made my day :)


fooladi

user ID "Dan Huck"

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Maybe you got it, maybe not, but definitely there is a tiny minority of Iranians, (and I dont mean the user ID's you were praising for their "bending over" and "respect" for others!!) who genuinly support palistinians. Just as there were a minority of USA citizens who supported Nazi Germany during the second world war. The difference is that US placed Nazi sympethysers in internment camps. In my country Iran, the enemy sympethysers are ruling the country, with their paid mercenaries on line barking on their behalf in the vain hope of prolonging the life of their paymasters by a year or two.....


My Name Is Borat

NP=Neverending Pile

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More than happy giving people exactly what they deserve?

Who died and elected you to the position?

You openly and brazenly kiss the butts of AN and his handlers-criminals of the most heinous variety who have killed countless numbers of IRANIANS in an internal genocide that has been going on for more than 30 years--and you have the gall to talk about racism?

Who do you think you are kidding?

Honestly, what the hell are you doing in the West? Go back to Iran, put on your chador, and go apply for the position of AN's spokesperson.

Stop claiming to espouse peace and understanding. You clearly show that unless everyone kneels before you and accepts your ideas that you lack both compassion for and an understanding of others, therefore peace is impossible with someone like you.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

VPK

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I want to be clear: I am a strong critic of IRI. I oppose it. My views with regard to IRI are in strong difference to both NP and the person using "Obama" as a handle.  Now if anyone wants to read my opinions they are welcome.

VPK


oktaby

A synopsis & what we see in the IRR defense hoax

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I want to thank you all that actually participated so far in a conversation and sorry about my bite as you can tell I have long since lost my patience with those who are confused about what/where we as IRANIANS stand in terms of priorities and preferences. I do not claim to speak for any majority, polititcally speaking but I do speak for an overwhelming majority that feel they got F@#$%$ having given blood and treasure to replace a dictatorship, only to end up with fascism.

The picture of the blog is Haifa. I replaced but put it back per Midwesty's comment; I did include a palesttinian link in my first comment that shows many nice places in Gaza. Yasser Arafar wealth kept by his Armenian wife was estimated at $1 billion, there is a small extreme oligarchy ruling Gaza now and most palestinians are choking from pressure and poverty. In potentially richest country in the world Iran has abject poverty as well in many areas and wealth concentration is among the worst in the world if not the worst.

Cheraghi ke be khane ravast, be masjed haram ast.

Here are some factual but still irrelevant to IRANIAN people's interest in any real sense (although very much IRR lifelines) observations:

-Palestinians are getting F#$%@ by israeli's and what happened last week was a cluster for israel.

-israel is a problem. to itself, decent jews around the world, region, and the world. It will be more dangerous & toxic as time goes by, in my opinion. It is the poster child of extreme brutal capitalism, as is IRR, its slower, retarded and more violent pet.

- palestinian and israeli problem is their own unequal fault, supported by all countries (Arab & moslem) and others because it has served the post cold war policies and strategies well.
Extreme IRR and israel are symbiotic, support chaos policy in the middle east and
palestine is the soccer ball.

-that landscape is changing and israel knows it. hence, more radical behavior. Just like IRR.  AIPAC and isreal lobby's undue influence in U.S. can and has proven counterproductive to real U.S. interests.  palestine has cost the region massive amounts of growth, good will and death. This conflict was the best creation of imperialism before IRR perfected it. And IRR is the single biggest contributor to israels increasing might and sucking of region's blood in the past 31 years.

-IRR interest in palestine is not about a bleeding heart but all about extending its bloody grip and power in Iran and expanding it to region. At ANY cost.

-lack of historic insight and broad overview has drawn many bleeding hearts to this issue as well as a disproportionate number of opportunists in addition to IRR; NGOs, Charities...it is good business for many

-I can go on for another 50 pages but the point is:

 

That is all irrelevant to the status of Iran that has its own Holocaust unfolding and those screaming palestine given Iran's situation are as I described; because you never hear them on any other issue from Chechnia to Myanmar to Sierra Leon to IRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

In my blog you have seen how my simple assertion here has been twisted, turned upside down, made an israeli or palestinian issue, human rights, support of this and that to make a case for IRR somehow. To fish in muddy water so to speak.

Keep the eyes on the ball. palestine already has global attention and beyond dispute the convoy was good for IRR. When you have holocaust at home, you don't spent time on external issues. Certainly not on an IRANIAN forum and then BS about this is for blah blah blah.

IRR agents, cronies, apologists and fools: Your hanna has no color anymore.

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Thank you for the facade and a classic sneak attack

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From my first response to you, I had expected and anticipated as much so nice try and true to form.

Whether or not you are non-Iranian is not clear but you do have agenda. For all I know you are NP or a slew of others who inundate this site with various names and facades. I can assure you that you could not talk about my credibility until you establish yours. From the footprint so far and your conduct here, you have none. So get busy establishing one if you can. Your blog on "Iranian natioanl...ambiguity" is a good indicator and somehow you project insight to Iran. Now you come with a heimlich maneuver and a friend/foe attack but you cannot hide under the guise of someone who is only trying to learn. You are either over estimating your own capability and intelligence or underestimating those you are trying to contend with. If you actually read the contents of this blog and comments in sequence, you could not reasonably make the statement you are making. Now, try this game somewhere else. If Obama/NP attracted you to this website, then no more need said about you

I'm sorry VPK was included in your mix. but he can speak for himself. I can tell who IRR and their cronies are and don't like them.

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VPK,  Thank you for sharing that painful experience and perspective with me. People like myself don't appreciate how luckiy we are for the moment, to be in the anonymous backwash of the American Empire as it has been moving forward. Unable to change it's direction into more benign directions, but giving it a try, that's where I find myself these days.

Obama, Thank you for reaching out with your consoling words and tone. It is the obvious integrity of people like yourself, VPK and NP among many  others which attracted me to this site.

NP especially seems so focused on bending over backwards to treat people respectfully, it's incomprehensible to me how those who treat her in such a disdainful and cruel manner don't realize their attacks on her demean themselves and lessen their credibility with thoughtful readers, while she gains added lustre.


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Darveesh, are you asking for a prescription or actually have

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something to say? As for your vacation, contact a travel agent. Also, in the link in my first comment on this thread the palestineonly site does offer various vacation packages, both religious and extra decadent. 

OKtaby


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the symptoms indicate a mix of mild antidepressants

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speaking of experience i see.

 

every one can always use an expert opinion.

 

any more pix of plush mediteranian resort called gaza? my vacation is coming up and i want to use my timeshare there.


oktaby

Gavazn, the symptoms indicate a mix of mild antidepressants

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and low quality home grown weed. Stay away. It is a stupefying mix as you can see. 

OKtaby


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Boom

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I guess we have to agree to disagree. I really don't want this to become the main topic on IC. But since you asked I will give my reasons:

  • It was in international waters. The vessels were not breaking even Israel's own law.
  • It resulted in deaths. The Israeli navy is vastly superior to the rag tag boats. They should use more caution to avoid loss of life. They did not and opted for a huge over reaction.
  • I know Netanyahu: he is a radical and does not understand moderation. He is hurting both sides.
  • In addition Netanyahu is the best friend of IRI. Just provided them with the best cover to hide behind. Now not even Iranians are focused on Iran.


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What does he put in his ghelyoon ... it's worth good money.


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