Fighting Words

They Both want to Spread Arabic language and Culture

They Both want to Spread Arabic language and Culture.

Mobark, because its his heritage. IRI, because of Imposed barbaric Islam (being stateless) and the desire to be Arab-want-to-be s and destroy Iranian culture.

DK Jaan - also on the issue of Arabic speaking reporters

Hala Gorani, which was actually one of the CNN reporters who was attacked in Tahrir Square, also speaks Arabic (in addition to Ben Wedemen that I previously mentioned):

Here's Gorani's bio:

//www.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/gorani.hala.html?iref=allsearch 

And this is Wedeman's:

 //www.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/wedeman.ben.html?iref=allsearch

Great comparison OnlyIran

And Bavafa that was a good #11.  I look forward to the day that Egyptian youth AND Iranian youth get what they want, take what is theirs, and free their respective countries from old fossil unpopular dictators.  We will bring to the middle east with our nonviolent struggles what the US military could never do- democracy with vibrant participation by an engaged young and enlightened population.

We will do it.

And I don't think that Islamists will take over Egypt

Unfortunately--and at the expense of the Iranian people--the Muslim world has learned the lesson that a fundamentalist Islamic regime is just not a viable option for a modern state such as Egypt.  Even Hamas is not a fundamentalist Islamist government like the IR:

 //iranian.com/main/blog/onlyiran/what-iri-can-learn-hamas

I foresee a new government in Egypt having some Muslim Brotherhood influence in it, but it will be nothing like the "shaaban bi mokh" IR.  I bet that they will even maintain relations with Israel.  Just watch. 

Anahid - I don't know...

I have become pessimistic, seeing the IR's level of brutality.  But, I hope that I am wrong and you're right.

#11 They both belong in the same garbage bin

Good summarization of the two [despicable] regimes

Mehrdad

And Guess who claims they were Pro Mubarak Police ? ;0)

Al Jazeera :

//www.stratfor.com/memberships/182724/sitrep/20110202-egypt-reporters-shown-pro-mubarak-marchers-police-ids

What a Coincidence ...

#11:

They are both being dumped by their main backers, the CIA and MI5 for not being of any further use and becoming slightly irritating to their western creators. 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Egypt's PM say's No Excuse for Violence against peaceful protest

Egypt's Health Minister Ahmed Samih Farid said earlier that five people had died in the fighting, which began on Wednesday, and 836 were injured - mostly as the result of stone-throwing and attacks with metal rods and sticks. Petrol bombs have also been thrown.

"This is a fatal error," Mr Shafiq told the privately-owned al-Hayat television.

"When investigations reveal who is behind this crime and who allowed it to happen, I promise they will be held accountable and will be punished for what they did.

"There is no excuse whatsoever to attack peaceful protesters, and that is why I am apologising," he said, urging the protesters "to go home to help end this crisis".

//www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12357891

Onlyiran, Good blog but depressing lines at the end

I like how you noted the similarities but I don't like the depressing lines at the end of your blog:" And for that, and other reasons that are explained in  this blog, it is much more likely to remain in power long after Mobarak’s regime is gone. " I have read the other blog; albeit very quickly. However, you never know, despite all the reasons given in that blog, I will not be surprised if IRI goes faster than predicted. 

Here's another

The anti Iranian thugs on motorbikes and pickup trucks during June 2009 uprising beating and intimidating the demonstrators were more mobile than the Egyptian Camel jockies and horseback goons. OK, well, this is not a similarity but a difference, but it is true nontheless.

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IRAN FIRST

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DK Jaan - I guess anything is possible

A couple of things though.  Ben Wedemen, who is a part of CNN's crew on the ground, is fluent in Arabic, and he was in Tahrir square the whole time, until he was attacked by what the CNN crew said were Mobarak supporters.

Second, one of the most important clues about who these people were is the fact that they were actually allowed into the square.  According to news reports, Tahrir square was blocked off by the Egyptian military. No anti-Mobarak protesters were allowed in.  They were allowed out, but not in.  However, pro-Mobarak groups were allowed in, and that's when these people showed up.

Look, all of these guys are learning lessons from the IR.  Mubarak has taken a page from the IR's playbook. That's all.    

Where's the Evidence the Thugs on Horseback were Pro Mobarak ?

I have doubts on whether those thugs on Horseback and Camels were Pro Mobarak as the Press claimed ? What evidence do they have in such a chaotic atmosphere ? None of the foreign correspondents who were reporting the incidents spoke Arabic all the more that Al Jazeera Journalists have been banned Visas to Egypt because the regime suspects them of biaised reporting. I was even surprised by John Simpson's claims that they were paid policemen disguised in civilian clothes. He offered doubts but not evidence. I even saw the BBC interviewing so called Pro Mobarak followers and guess what One of the women had a Nigab ...

So Either this was a personal initiative by Pro or Anti Mobarak groups or a provocation that can be triggered by anybody when tension is high. If the Anti Mobarak demonstrators were so pacific in the first place then where did all the Cocktail Molotovs, swords and daggers Appear all of a sudden ? ...

The Camel incident strangely reminds me of the way the Cinema Rex incident was orchestrated to put all the blame on the shah's regime and thus avoid the possibility of any peaceful negotiation between the deemed secular opposiiton and the government. All the more that the Army had declared it's neutrality. From reports I read here and there the so called Peaceful Anti Mobarak demonstrators were the first to throw stones at the Pro Mobarak who had gathered on the square. The Fact of the matter remains that NO ONE KNOWS ...

Even the photos and images that I have watched to date do not show that the Camel riders or the thugs on horseback were brandishing Hosni Mobarak's portrait. Yet all the headlines claim it was the Pro Mobarak who charged on the peaceful anti Mobarak crowd. Where is the evidence ? ...

You can be sure Al JAzeera just like the BBC in IRan during the 79 revolution will be exploiting this with cliché titles "Pharaoh Mobarak's Men" attack "Peaceful Demonstators" ...

The least I can say as an outside obsevervor is that to me No One who was on that Plaza appeared to me as being there with peaceful intentions regardless of which camp they belonged to.

There is a striking contrast between the way the Tunisians handled their protests including their slogans and these people. They were hanging effigies of Mobarak and calling him a blood thirsty tyrant where as in Tunisia at worst they were saying in French "Ben Ali Dégage" aka "Ben Ali get out of here"

The Islamic slogans are anything but peaceful. They were provocative from day One.

My Humble Opinion,
D