Pahlevan

It is a shame….

While these two seemingly intelligent ladies can exchange their views without any insults, folks on IC cannot learn from them and much of the exchange is nothing but insults, which starts, in my opinion, by the choosen title.

When are we going to learn?!?!?  But I did enjoy the debate of these two young and intelligent ladies.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Just a little note on Mossadegh-ol-Saltaneh

While Savad-Koohi is an honourable name to choose, as it comes from a beautiful provincial town in Mazandaran with a rich and civilised history going back to the ancient Persia, its original name was farshuvadgar. It was named Savad Kooh (Black Mountain) by the invading Arabs who couldn't conquer the town as it was protected by the high and formidable mountains and hence out of fear they called the area Black mountain. Being called Savad Koohi is a most honourable accolade one can be lucky to receive. 

On the other hand Mossadegh-ol-saltaneh is a title bestowed upon him (Dr Mohamad Ashtiyani ) by the despotic ruler of Qajar (Nasser alddin Shah) as an accolade to reward him for his services to tyrannical court of Qajar.  

I can see why our mini-me Mossadeghollahis are so sensitive to be reminded of their 'dear leader's' murky past.

I can only imagine the smirk on FA's face

My dear FA you have got these mini-me Mossadeghollahis dancing on a string like never before :)))

Well Mr Pahlevan, I thought you might be slightly less confused and clueless than your 'academic' mentor Mr MK but alas that I see you are even worse.  You either have zero political literacy about Mossadegh ol Saltaneh and his friends or you are in a state of total denial. Sanjabi, a one time Mossadegh ol saltaneh's minister, was more of Melli-Mazhabi than Bazargan and both of these men opposed both Bakhtiar and Sadighi. Sanjabi even voted to have Bakhtiar expelled from JM after the latter accepted to be a PM. You can't have both Bakhtiar and Sanjabi as freinds of Mossadegh ol Saltaneh!! 

So please get your history right before emabrrasing yourself any further and please don't follow MK blindly. He is lost already :))

Dear Masoud

Sorry, I posted my response to him before I saw your comment. IMO he is an Islamist and more precisely a khomeinist. nevertheless, I do think the term "Melli Mazhabi" is an oxymoron, just my opinion.

Cheers, 

Khomeinist Amendment

It's always funny to see an Islamist blow up on the internet; I bet you would blow yourself up to make nationalist democrats like me die, LOL! you can keep lying to yourself about that Islamist mass murderer you call the "leader", the fact of the matter remains that he was an anti-Iranian Islamofascist dictator that made Iran a backward dependent shithole to a point where even his own retarded cult members now prefer to live in the "land of the infidels", sheytaneh bozorg; how much more pathetic can your bunch get? 

As an Iranian nationalist I wish for my country to be independent and democratic (i.e. secular republic of Iran), it's neither at the moment so as a secular and a democrat I am living in the west, but the important question is what is an Islamist and a khomeinist like you doing living the in the "great satan"? Should't you be in Gaza fighting the infidels and getting "serviced" from behind by them?! Khomeinist terrorists like you should stay away from both the west AND Iran. 

Also, "Mell Mazhabi" is an oxymoron, it's like calling a pile of crap a "fragrant pile of crap" to make it look better!! After suffering for 33 years under Islamist rule, Iranian would never follow another Islamist group, especially one with such an oxymoronic name and such a filthy history.  

By the way, Bakhtiar was murdered by Islamist terrorists like you and will always be hero to Iranians because of that. The more you insult Bakhtiar or Mossadegh, the better they look. Getting insulted by racists, facists and Islamists, is always a plus. They must have been great people to be insulted by the worst scum on earth, a west-residing Islamist parasite.

Dear Pahlevan

Dear Pahlevan,

Your answer to Nokar was perfect.

Do not worry about "First Amendment." This poster has had numerous identities. He was "Comrade" pretending to be a Tudeh Party supporter. He was for some time pretending to be a monarchist. He was using the "Pendar Nik" name among others.

Now he is pretending to be a Melli Mazhabi!!!!!!

He used to attack JM for not supporting Bakhtiar. And NOW he is insulting Dr. Bakhtiar!!!!!

He used to attack me for making rational criticism of monarchy. And NOW he is making personal insults to Reza Pahlavi!!!!!!!

I think he is a psychopath who simply enjoys getting on others’ nerve for the sake of it. I do not think there is a real political agenda behind his weird and sick bothering of others. I think it is best to simply ignore him.

My 2 cents,

Masoud

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Bakhtiar was a charlatan. He had no political knowledge, experience or friends.......He just jumped in and unfortunately lost his precious life.......not a big loss for the nation, though............Your angry tone doesn't surprise me. Must be still bleeding from what you received from a shaky sandal-wearer old man who won the game for being independent and vindictive............your elder brothers were no match for him, neither are you for his next generation; that's why I hope that after a long happy healthy life, you'll die and buried  right here in your master's home......away from MY independent,free HOMELAND.......if You live long enough, you'll see a free Iran- freed by true national forces from within society, Melli Mazhabi, that is-, but still please die here.....

anglophile

Islamist Amendment

Islamists are inherently anti-Iranian, there is no such thing as an "Islamist nationalist"! So it's no surprise that an Islamist such as yourself would hate nationalist heroes like Dr. Bakhtiar and Abbas Amir Entezam. I recognized the vile smell of a khomeinist scumbag from your first comment but you have now shown your true colors by insulting Mossadegh by badmouthing Mossadegh's party, National Front, and his closest friends.

By the way, Khat-e emami scumbags have a nasty habit of falsely accusing anyone who's against them of being "dependent" ("aameleh bigaaneh")! But ironically Khomeini and his ghatel gang have managed to make Iran one of the most dependent and weak nations on earth. IRI is Russia and China's bitch today, and Iranians have never felt so humiliated and weak throughout their contemporary history ... Congratulations!!

West-residing Islamist are truely the most despicable and vile group of creatures.

Mr Pahlevan I have a little problem with your last comment

 Mossadegh's friends were either against the revolution (Bakhtiar), or against Islamofascist khomeini and were mostly put in jail quickly after the revolution. 

Are you saying such great "heroes" like Sanjabi, Forouhar, Bazargan, Sadr Haj-Seyd Javadi, Saleh, Shayegan, Nosrat Amini etc. (not to mention Bani Sadrwere not friends of Mossadegh ol saltaneh? Because these men worked intimately with the Islamic leaders and even voted for an Islamic republic, without going to Jail.

Or perhaps you say that it was OK for them to work under the banner of Mossadegh ol saltaneh alongside the Islamofascists until they were dumped the Islamofscists AND ONLY THEN they became yaraan mossadeghol saltanh!

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Bakhtiaar was a worthless, weightless opportunist who went down the history as such...........for the other group who lined up to receive instructions from the Americans, I don't even pretend having an iota of sympathy...........Everybody can smell fake and dependent nationalism from farsangs away.....
Iranian nationalism excluding its religious component(as good, or bad it may be) is a fake and problematic kosher doctrine.............

because I can smell Islamists from 100 miles away

"First Amendment", the victor of the 1979 disaster was not Mossadegh but the enemies of Mossadegh. Mossadegh's friends were either against the revolution (Bakhtiar), or against Islamofascist khomeini and were mostly put in jail quickly after the revolution. The overthrowing of the pahlavi dictator wasn't the problem, but handing over the country to something much worse was!

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ایکاش من یه روزی میفهمیدم که چرا باید واسه انقلابی که در گرماگرم فوران و
غلیانش تصویر آواتار خود حضرتعالی در ا‌هتزاز بود، ناسزا بشنوم...

Dear Pahlevan

Thank YOU for posting this.

LA 1, Lodnon 0

The London residing girl has a doctorate in being clueless. 

delusional Islamists

This exchange was made possible thanks to the 1776 American revolution and no thanks to 1979 Islamofascist disaster! 

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Such a healthy exchange in the presence of the spirit of freedom is now possible, thanks to the Great Revolution of 79.........