Will obama ask about bahais and dissidents?

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Paymaneh Amiri
by Paymaneh Amiri
18-Dec-2008
 

I ran across an item in the news this morning.  Someone had written a letter to Senator Barbara Boxer about the latest crackdowns and arrests on Bahais in Iran, I suppose asking her for her help.  She replied in a letter which I have posted below. 

The question in my mind today is how would the issue of human rights in Iran affect any potential negotiations between US and Iran.  The Iranian government for the most part denies its extensive and systematic violations of human rights for the past 30 years.  Part of the denial is wrapped in the cloak of Sharia laws (Qesas, women's rights), part of it is presented under Iran's need for protecting its national security (persecution of journalists, students, and intellectuals), and an important part has been completely covered up and hidden over the past 30 years (gross mistreatment of Bahais and torture, mass executions, and murders of Iran's political dissidents). 

Would human rights be an item of negotiation between Mr. Obama and Iran's "highest" authority, as he promised during his campaign?  What would they say?

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Dear Mr. Bricker:

Thank you for contacting me regarding the treatment of the Bahá'í community in Iran. I appreciate the opportunity to respond to your views on this troubling situation.

I share your concern regarding the systematic discrimination faced by the Bahá'í and other religious minorities in Iran. Currently, the activities of the Bahá'í are being monitored by Iran's hard-line revolutionary guard and secret police.

As you may know, on December 19, 2006, the United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution expressing "serious concern" over the human rights situation in Iran, with particular emphasis placed on the plight of the Iranian Bahá'í. The resolution calls on Iran to "eliminate in law and in practice, all forms of discrimination based on religious, ethnic or linguistic grounds and other human rights violations" against Iranian minorities, including the Bahá'í.

As a strong advocate of international human rights and religious freedom, I was pleased to see this resolution adopted by the UN General Assembly. Please be assured that I will keep your views in mind should legislation regarding the Iranian Bahá'í come before the Senate in the 110th Congress.

Thank you for writing, and I hope you will continue to be in touch with me about matters of importance to you.

Barbara Boxer

United States Senator

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faryarm

Obama will have to face the issues..

by faryarm on

Human Rights and in particular the rights of Iran's largest Religious minority will be a major stumbling block, for the IRI and its

Cleric leadership, in any Future negotaitions between The US, Iran and the rest of the world.

iran is high on Presidenr elect Obama's list of priorities, hence Human Rights and in particular the Bahais will be  a Factor..

Yes:

"O has so much things to worry about" but   he will have to  have time to deal with Human Rights and the persecution of Bahais  in Iran. 

 

Faryarm 

 


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O has so much things to worry about

by Anonymous irani (not verified) on

O has so much things to worry about that he would not have time to deal with Bahais problems in Iran.


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My heart

by Ali Najafi (not verified) on

My heart goes out to all Iranians -- be they religious, atheists, reformers, academics, illiterate, women, men, youth, children, and old -- that are suffering in Iran. While the Bahais face harsh abuse and systematic persecution, the emotional oppression is being felt across Iranian society, irrespective of religion, gender, and age -- whether directly or indirectly.

On YouTube, I came across a modern interpretation of a beautiful prayer on patience, written by the daughter of Bahaullah. As our sadness and anger increases at the spiraling plight of our county, let us channel our energy on things that we can do to serve humanity and better the conditions of the communities that we live in. I don't think that there is stronger or more enduring force that can fight the type of oppressors as we see in Iran.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZifFF9KGtA8


hendooneh

well said toofan

by hendooneh on

i know BO is the coolest thing since the iphone was invented...but he is still a politician/lawyer, not to mention a product of the most corrupt political machine/state in the U.S.

that said, i hope he does bring up the plight of bahai's in iran when he meets with president ahmadinejad

 

 


Faramarz_Fateh

Iran and Iranians have many problems, but

by Faramarz_Fateh on

Iran and Iranians have many problems, but the 3 main problems have been, are and will be the following:

1) Oppression of women for the past 800 years.

2)  Systematic oppression and persecution of Bahais for the past 165 years.

3) Gutless men who have either benefited from #1 and/or #2 or don't have the balls to take action to change the system.

Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was the poster boy for #3.

Oh believe you me, there are many many other problems; way too many to mention here.  But you solve #1-#3 and the rest will take care of itself. Mind you, all these problems are due to Islam, the Arab culture and their inclusion in the Iranian society.

 

 


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No he wont

by Toofantheoncesogreat (not verified) on

And its not his or any other foreign leaders job to ask questions about it. That is our job, mine and yours.

Pluss, the US has been trading and empowering one dictatorship after another for the last 100 years, you think that Amnesty International is running the Pentagon? The world does not work like that, sad to say.


alborz

Mehran-001 - Yes there are Baha'is in other Mid-East ....

by alborz on

...countries and their status varies from country to country. In all instances they are deprived of a legal status and do not enjoy civil rights as this in most instances is reserved for Christian and Jewish religious minorities.  The degree that this is then enforced is very much dependent on the specific circumstances in each country.

For example, most on this site are informed about the specific nature of the persecutions in Iran both before and after the 1979 revolution.  Egypt has a long standing record of restrictions on Baha'is and during the past two years has passed laws that have significantly jeopardized the access of Baha'is in Egypt to every component of Egyptian civil society, including healthcare, education, registration, property ownership, and pensions,  through the national ID card program that limits its issuance to Moslems, Christians and Jews. 

Saudi Arabia has always had a restrictions for other Faiths and while many Baha'is do live there, they lead very quite and confined lives.  The Emirates and Kuwait have large Baha'i communities and have enjoyed freedom in private enterprises, and while they don't face active persecution, they also lead lives that limit their interaction and dependence on the organs of civil society.

Small Baha'i communities have existed in Iraq, Syria and Jordan for over a hundred years and it appears that they depend on their private enterprises for livelihood also.  There does not appear to be any limitations on higher education and/or healthcare.  Their numbers are quite small, and date back to the early believers that came into contact with Baha'u'llah and Abdu'lBaha as they were exited to the former Ottoman penal colony of Akka,  in Palestine.

So, in short, the Baha'is of the Middle East experience limitations to varying degrees. In the case of Iran and Egypt it is of the more virulent form of persecutions.

Hope that answers your question.

Alborz


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

LOL glossing over some stuff

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

"Iran is Liberated" 

Yes, when liberation is an American leader's priority, we have seen how fantastic the results are. I can't wait for a civil war in iran. We can't even get it together here on a message board. So I'm sure this "liberation" will be nothing short of gardens and pastries with tea. Yum. 


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Alborz

by Mehran-001 (not verified) on

Do you know whether there are Baha'i in other middle eastern country and what is their status there? Are they suffering from the same mistreatment that they do in Iran?


alborz

Will Obama care about the Baha'is and others?

by alborz on

Obama is quite familiar with the principles of the Baha'i Faith and has close Bahai friends in Illinois.  The US Baha'i Administrative Center is located in Wilmette, IL and he has visited the Baha'i House of Worship, just north of Chicago.

The Baha'is will remain at the heart of the human rights record of the IRI and the ebb and flow of their plight will depend on both Iran's sense of isolation and the visibility to their violations.

Members of the US Congress along with the members of the Canadian and European Parliaments have played a significant role in maintaining a high level of visibility on Iran's record.  However, during the past few years the dismal human rights record of the US in Iraq, Afghanistam, and Gitmo, has diminshed the credibility of US.   It is everyone's hope that this credibility is regained in the coming months and years.  Human rights can significantly benefit from such a resurgence.

The isolation of IRI in the international community has emboldened Iran to take more coercive actions against the Bahai's and today has far less at stake in repairing this dismal record.

In the mean time, Barbara Boxer is only one of the many members of Congress who have sympathecized and voted to pass pass resolutions against Iran's human rights record, on many occassions.  Her response is balanced, as one would expect from any politician.  Utlimately the wording of any resolution and its timing is what determines the support it gets when it is put to a vote.   As always, it will be inclusive of all that are deprived from the rights as defined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

It would be unreasonable to expect an official response, which becomes a permanent record, to be "hot and heavy" on sentiments. 

Alborz


American Wife

Of course he cares

by American Wife on

What exactly does Obama need to do, in your opinion, to help Iran?  Considering that even Iranians don't seem to agree with what needs to be done, what do you want Obama to do?


Farhad Kashani

Obama's priority should be

by Farhad Kashani on

Obama's priority should be to help Iranians get rid of the IRI regime. That way:

1- The problem of Islamic Fundamentalism goes away.

2- Iran is liberated.

3- The security of America is guaranteed.  

 


hendooneh

will he ask? does he care?

by hendooneh on

i hope so...but probably not. These western leaders, who are so influenced by their special interests/lobbies, never gave a damn about iran and her people (imho). I think they throw around the notion of "human rights" just to sound compassionate.

btw...senator boxer (the old battleaxe) comes off as completely insincere in that letter. Anyone else get that vibe?


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Tell that to Trita Parsi!

by My two cents (not verified) on

A whole bunch of his advisors including some real heavyweights like Brzezinsky are telling him to ignore Iran's human rights issues and focus on nukes ONLY. Who do you think he will listen to?