Quintessential Questions

Kadivar, be careful, you COULD be making sense!

Kadivar,

You just said mere allegations do not prove someone is guilty. Think about that in the context of this discussion, and frivolous accusations that go on every day on this site.

Craig: considering the policies that you have advocated thorugh the candidates you have backed have resulted in the unnecessary death of 4600 US soldiers, what room do you have to talk about "caring about US soldiers" ?

Mollah has a valid point which you couldn't refute on the substance, so your resorted to faux patriotism.

Mola

1. The more you prove my point that we need people like Trita Parsi,  NIAC or ACLU to represent and protect our rights.

You need foreigners like Trita Parsi to protect your rights as a US citizen, Mola? Can you point out to me where in the US Constitution that role is given to foreign nationals?

As far as Iranians joining the US military, that's fine as long as they want to serve the US. But if they are like you, I'd rather they stay civilians. US military doesn't need more potential traitors.

xpc, the more you smile

1. The more you prove my point that we need people like Trita Parsi,  NIAC or ACLU to represent and protect our rights.

2. As long as the suffering of American soldiers is concerned why don't you go back and read  what was written about the soldiers' suicide rate in that Texas fort. 75 soldiers had committed suicide during the first 8 months of 2009.

3. There are many among the second generation of Iranian Americans who are contemplating to join US Army/Navy or Marines and we don't want to lose our sons and daughters in a new stupid war, a war with Iran.  

Well Said Craig ;0)

You Nailed it !

They May Be Luckier in the UK where No Green Card is required :

SATIRE: IRI Lobby Moves to Great Britain ;0)

LOL

Mola

Since when did you care about American soldiers? Is that supposed to be a joke?

...and it's not entertainment for Iranian Americans who have to live in an
atmosphere of paranoia created by warmonger/Bush lovers such as
yourself.

Ah, I see. You being a big supporter of the IRI and its aggression against the US and Israel as well as Arabs in Yemen and lebanon feel that the "atmosphere of paranoia" that some Iranians (but not you) live in is the result of American policy, and not a result of IRI misconduct.

You brought another smile to my face with that comment and I thank you :)

xpc, It's entertainment to you but not to American soldiers who

are dying for one stupid war after another, and it's not entertainment for Iranian Americans who have to live in an atmosphere of paranoia created by warmonger/Bush lovers such as yourself.

Setareh: Thanks for the encouragement

Mola

And here is IranDokht's comment about the link between Mojahedin and Neocons.

Now you are resorting to offering up the comments of yourfriends on this website as evidence? lol

With friends like you, does NIAC really need enemies? NIAC sues for defamation and NIAC members defend NIAC's reputation by defaming the defendant. That's good stuff! See, that right there is why I still hang out on Iranian.com - the sheer entertainment value is priceless!

IRANdokht jaan Obama is already Wounded With

The Nobel Peace Prize ...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w9p7L4nS4g

How Further do you want the poor fellow to be hurt !

LOL

He made a WOnderful Trip to China too ! Hope he enjoyed the Food !

To Thank Him the Chinese Authorities censored his comments on Chinese Televtion when he spoke of the Twitter Revolution !

A Chinese habist since Tienanmen I suppose ...

Irandokht jan and Molla

Brilliant comment!  Absolutely right, and thanks to Molla for bringing it to attention again.

Mola Nasredeen You did not answer the question ...

I have no reason to believe or not believe anyone in this controversy. Unlike YOU I am waiting to see what the final judgement will be to make up my mind.

You have not provided any valid proof to your accusations towards this Hassan Guy other than links to articles written by some fellow with no proof either to sustain his allegations.

Best,

DK

KD, Hassan Agha is being sued by NIAC

And rightly so.

And here is IranDokht's comment about the link between Mojahedin and Neocons. I highly recommend it. It's an eye opener how anti NIAC defemation may have started: 

IranDokht's comment: "Because NIAC favors cautious engagement with Iran and opposes war on it or trying to break it up, the rightwing Israel lobbies and the Chalabi wannabes among Iranian-Americans want to destroy it. Neocon hatchet man Eli Lake made a run at the organization in a muddled op-ed for the Washington Times ... MEK has its tentacles into Congress through effective fronts like IPC." 

If you believe he's not or was not a member of Mojahedin's central committee then you can counter sue on behalf on Mojahedin.

ex programmer

I have seen this line of accusing questions asked many many times what do you mean when you say you are not allowed to ask them?

Mola Nasredeen You confused him with his Brother Hussein

I don't Know Hassan Daioleslam But Your link does not prove he is an MKO but concludes that he is is one because of his brother Hussein and Sister Fatemeh  are members of the MKO ?:  

It is also written by a former MKO Mohammad Hossein Sobhani apparently now a member of an Obscure Party ( which also calls itself National Socialist Party of IRan ( in Reference to Hitler's party ? )) named Pars which is hardly seriously considered by anyone in the Iranian Opposition abroad ( its leader Dr. Arman Nouri who works as a Dentist in Paris wants to become Iran's Napoleon. This marginal party is even against Reza Pahlavi which they write against often even if Arman Nouri claims to have been close to Bakhtiar and the Young PRince before Breaking away to create his own party back in 1988 before Bakhtiars assassination)) :

See Press Conference with Arman Nouri and M H Sobhani at Pars Offices :

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gksRubQh8ik&feature=related

According to your link to Mohammad Hossein Sobhani's article :

Hassan Daioleslam, who is also considered as a member of the Mojahedin Khalq Organisation (Rajavi Cult) had been under harsh criticism for a long time by the cult leader Massoud Rajavi because he would not leave the USA and join the cult under the rule of Saddam Hussein in Iraq. But now, in the new circumstances in which the remnants of the Rajavi cult after the fall of Saddam Hussein find themselves in western countries, Hassan’s social position and his ability to speak English has grabbed the attention of Rajavi. He seems to be next in line to be consumed. This time in the United State of America where both the Mojahedin Khalq Organisation and its alias the National Council of Resistance have been maintained on the list of dangerous terrorist entities for more than a decade.

A search on the internet led me to Hassan Daioleslam own Blog''s profile in which He asspociates himself to the National Front ( Forouhar, Sanjabi or Bakhtiar ? )  and Bazargan's Party :THe Freedom Movement of Iran :

//english.iranianlobby.com/darBarehMa.php

" I was born in Iran in 1957 and entered the Polytechnic University of Tehran in 1974. (Civil engineering) I was very active in the student movement before and after the revolution.

In 1981 and the start of the Khomeini’s total repression and mass executions, I left the country and established in France. During the 1980s and early 1990s, I was active with the liberal movements especially the “Association for defence of democracy and sovereignty of the Iranian people” which gathered the secular movement of “National Front” and the “Freedom Movement of Iran”.

During the 1990s, I was involved in the Human Rights activities and the defence of political prisoners. In 2001 I moved to United States and concentrated on political research. Since 2005, I have been collaborating with two independent Iranian journalists inside the country focusing on the Iranian Regime’s lobby in US. My reports have been largely punished by major Farsi websites and US journals.

I have appeared as an expert guest in the Voice of America-TV as well as other Persian media."  

Now I don't know if he is telling the truth but as far as I know neither the National Front of the Freedom Movement of Iran  to which Hassan Daioleslam claims to have belongs Are Even Related to the MKO and Politically are even opposed to them ? I once even saw this Hassan Daioleslam on VOA responding to this accusation by saying he was NOT his brother and was never a member of the  MKO.

Since When did Family Ties prove that one also shares the same political views ? ... Particularly in Iran where the Revolution tore families apart both politically and emotionally ! ...

A minimum is to verify with both the National Front and  Freedom Movement of Iran members or current leaders to see if he belonged to their party or not .

So Who is telling the Truth ? ...

Based on your documents I cannot tell !

Best,

DK
 

Chance ovordi

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Mola

Your biggest problem is you keep asserting things to be false, even though they appear to be true. You may or may not be able to pull that off in the court of public opinionon this website, but that's not going to win a defamation lawsuit for NIAC. Nor will it keep the feds from going after NIAC if they have broken federal laws.

NIAC's biggest problem is they have people like you amongst their membership. You are claiming to be a member here, right? And while its kinda cute that your entire defense of NIAC seems to be defamation of NIAC's critics, that's hardly the basis for a legal defense is it?

Nousha Arzu, thanks :) 

Trita Parsi and NIAC's View

Why is NIAC suing Hassan Daioleslam?

Hassan Daioleslam, who has been identified by former members of the terrorist-listed People's Mujahedin of Iran (also known as the MEK or MKO) as a member of the organization's executive committee, has published several defamatory articles about NIAC and its President, Trita Parsi.

Daioleslam is opposed to dialogue between the US and Iran. Because NIAC has called for direct, comprehensive talks with Iran, Daioleslam has attempted to silence NIAC by equating opposition to a US-Iran war with lobbying for the Iranian government.

NIAC has tried to engage Daioleslam, but despite our efforts, Daioleslam has continued to bully NIAC through defamation, slander, misquotations, incorrect links and references to figures that played no role in NIAC's inception, operations, or development, forcing NIAC to seek legal recourse.

The MEK/MKO is recognized by the US State Department as a terrorist organization and its extensive human rights violations have been documented by Human Rights Watch.

Additional information on Hassan Daioleslam and Kenneth Timmerman's defamation campaign against NIAC can be found here. Additionally, the National Endowment for Democracy has issued a statement detailing the "many false allegations regarding an Endowment grant to the National Iranian American Council" contained in Daioleslam's writings.

Q, it must irritate you

to no end that you have to suffer through dissent the way your brothers in Iran don't have to. Those guys, and you know who I'm talking about, would torture and rape me for having a different opinion. Here, on a site that trumpets the call of "nothing is sacred" (a dubious moniker it seems) you get so rattled and infuriated when confronted with opposition that you can barely control your rage, and in a knee-jerk reaction, hit the flag button the way one of those guys clubs a person on the streets in Iran.

It's funny that DK, whose posts I admire greatly, can call someone "a little man," but my post gets deleted for simply asking why in God's name does someone who supports the IRI in every single one of his posts live in Southern California, as opposed to South Tehran?

Is that such an evil question?

And thank you, Craig, I really think your posts are uniquely wise and measured, in contrast to the irrational hezbollahi ilk that seems to dominate this site. 

LONG LIVE THE GLORY OF KUROSH 

Is there room for an opposing view?

Your blog is supportive of Mr. Parsi and NIAC. I have an unfavorable view of both. However, any differing view, critique or information is attacked, dismissed or insulted. What is the purpose of this blog if you are not interested in any view other than your own?

Nousha Arzu

You aren't allowed to ask people who support the IRI and hate the US why they live in the US and not in the Islamic Republic. Its considered rude! Unlike namecalling and character assassination, which are fine. I think JJ got told to "go back to Iran!" a few too many times because he seems quite sensitive about that one.

Iranian.com

is run by censors who must be intellectually challenged.

Why would you people delete a comment where I merely stated that Q is playing misdirection. Other bloggers have called this guy "Pino-Q" and "IRI supporter" in numerous posts. I merely continued their practice. This is so sad, when someone who has a hezbollahi streak can play hall monitor and censor all comments that he does not like nor cannot answer intelligently.

What kind of a forum is this when one's comments can be removed when there isn't any abusive language in the comment?

Who's in charge here?

LONG LIVE THE GLORY OF KUROSH 

Q,

Why on Earth are you flagging me? Are you afraid to answer my question? Where's the abusive language in my earlier post? Why are you such a coward? Why do you flag people with such ease? What are you trying to hide? Why are you trying to silence me? This is not Iran!

LONG LIVE THE GLORY OF KUROSH 

Q, you're endearingly pathetic

Another person ("R2-D2") in another blog on November 14  ("Dismanteling the axis of evil") also accuses me of being "Laleh Gillani." And here you accuse me of being "Sassan!"

LOL!

R2-D2 writes:

"Are you by any chance our old friend Laleh Gillani blogging under a new username. I used to read Laleh's blogs and articles all the time. I thought that she was a very gifted writer.

The reason that I am asking is that I haven't seen anything from her in quite sometime. Your writing, and the content of your stuff, is strikingly similar to hers."

No, R2-D2, I'm not Laleh, although thank you for implying that I'm a "gifted writer," and I'm not Sassan, Q -- which again brings me to my question...

Q, WHY are you living in the lap of Uncle Sam, the Great Satan, when you're such an avid IRI supporter?

LONG LIVE THE GLORY OF KUROSH 

DK, sorry, I'll still take Ebadi and Ganji over your word

I don't know why people are playing stupid on purpose. Talk is cheap, I guess, and critical thinking is in short supply.

Any kind of interferece including "material support" by the US is 100% rejected by Iranians. The Green coalition, the most comprehenseive and the most successfull coalition in history of the Iranian democracy can't possibly stay united if US steps in. That's a fact.

Dear JJ/Admin: This person Sassan is the same that you have kicked out a few times in the past for not following discourse guidelines. As usual he's chosen another fake name and come right back in. I humbly ask you to look into this and report back. If I'm wrong, I will apologize to Ms. Nousha and the entire audience of this site.

Well Events Proved Akbar Ganji & Shirin Ebadi were DEAD WRONG

In their Assessments ...

I know that the  Nobel Peace Prize can turn you into a Saint overnight but It is certainly not a reliable Award when it comes to Political Wit ....

In addition They seem to distribute the Prize to any bloke these days too :

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w9p7L4nS4g

Both of these Eminent Iranians Got their Priorities Wrong and saw the Enemies in the Wrong Camp.

But Once in Trouble they started crying and calling both the Diaspora and the  Western Democracies for help:

Same thing for Akbar Ganji when He started asking people like GOOGOOSH (the Quintessential Product of Pahlavi Era ( See Googoosh and Farah Pahlavi after NY Concert in 2006 )  to come and join him on a Hunger Strike.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jUiWQPeY9g

As if That would not trouble the Iranian Green Movement to see the "Corrupt" Iranian Diaspora demonstrating without Tchador for the Iranians inside ? What Hypocrisy on behalf of both Ebadi and Ganji ...

I don't See what makes Shirine Ebadi or Akbar Ganji Flawless in their political assessments. Does that make them IRI Agents ? Of course Not But they Certainly Were IRI Apologists until the Protests put them face to face with their own contradictions and the DARK REALITY of the REGIME They Wanted to Reform and Not Change ...

Akbar Ganji was a former member of the feared Revolutionary guards and worked for the Ministry of Intelligence and National Security of Iran before turning the chapter and becoming an critical voice against the regime and the Spiritual Leader and denouncing the chain murders in Iran.

A Brave Man certainly which I have even saluted the courage and political stance in the past:

Prisoner of Conscience: Akbar Ganji and Costa Gavras' Confession BY Darius KADIVAR

Shirin Ebadi was FIRST FEMALE JUDGE DURING THE PAHLAVI ERA only to be forced out of office after the Revolution she Welcomed Whole Heartingly ... and became a simple Lawyer.

She is admirable for her work in the legal department:

France's FM Bernard Kouchner Bows to Iran's Shirine Ebadi (Paris)

But she has No Political Wisdom I'm afraid ...

BOTH Ganji and Ebadi Believed in Reform and Therefore believed in an ISLAMIC DEMOCRACY and were staunch supporters of PResident Khatami and the Reform Movement.

Not surprising since both more or less made their career in the past 30 years that this regime was in power and owe their reputation to the Islamic Republic's era of oppenness under Khatami.

Since the Protests last June in IRan BOTH have become Stauch Supporters of Secularism.

BETTER LATE THAN NEVER !

In Short both reached the same conclusion as ALL Opposition Forces in exile which they criticized and that is that this Regime has lost it's credibility and legitimacy.

And Now they Appear even on VOA Persian which was accused of being the NEO CON WAR MONGERING Media targeted by Trita Parsi's NIAC Experts ...

Khalaji highlights problems with US Persian-language broadcasts by Babak Talebi (NIAC)

Akbar Ganji on VOA Persian:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2D5nGIToPE

Shirine Ebadi on VOA Persian:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KRDuAEF_1s

Well I suppose again that in these Treacherous Times it's never late to join the Opposition to the IRI

Any Last Minute Clueless Patriot is Welcome ... 

Including Trita ! ...

Attacking Trita Is a

Attacking Trita Is a useless exercise in futility. He serves an American special interest group and gets his marching orders from them. You have to convince the left in America (i.e. the realists) that Iran is ready for democracy and able to detach itself from reactionary Islamists given proper tools.

It still would be better to try win over

Neocons tho,not the real 'Isreali protective Neocon's they probably wont be won but there is a large crowd of Americansthat get's brandished 'Neocons' that are really not.They just don't agree with Democrat's..

And since the Protest's I think the American public across the board is sympathetic after Neda and all,they all support the people of Iran.There's still a Iran obsession.

 I have a dislike for Islam like 'Islam goes to hell' and a dislike for the Regime like Fred's but I never advocate bombing Iran.

I've never met anyone in person who does.Everyone want's to do what's right for the people of Iran.There's some nuts yea but always is,they are blown out of porportion.The NIAC should move on to bigger and better things than focus on some nuts.

Have a wonderful free day!

American Dream

People who are opposed to NIAC should stop being haters.

Taking a look at the people on this website who are most aggressive in their defense of the NIAC, the one thing they all have in common is they hate the US and they absoultely despise Israel. If that's the kind of person that supports NIAC then I don't need to do much research to come to the conclusion NIAC doesn't have American interests in mind.

Which is exactly the charge that is being made against NIAC - that they serve IRI without any consideration for how the policies they advocate may harm the US. Look at Q: do you think he would be upset if the US took a position that harmed American interests? I think he'd giggle his ass off.

And why don't you call on people like Q and ID to stop being haters? It's pretty obvious that's what they are, isn't it?

Attacking NIAC is just plain wrong

Those who attack NIAC are against America and Iran.  NIAC is a great organization that helps empower people.  People who are opposed to NIAC should stop being haters.  They should join NIAC and improve the world.

ID

You have resorted to invoking Juan Cole now? At the same time you accuse others of being neocons? lol.

I give you more quotes from NIAC website, it's open to everybody

• Integrity We take our responsibility to the Iranian American community seriously. We will stand and defend our principles. Integrity is fundamentally interwoven in our core philosophy, advocacy and actions.

• Pride We celebrate our rich heritage and our contributions to American life to set an example for future Iranian Americans.

• Transparency We are transparent in sharing objectives, sources of funding and positions on issues that count.

• Leadership We lead by example and inspire future leaders by delivering tangible results for our community. 

• My question to hatemongers: What do you offer TeeMooti? What have you achieved for us?   

• We don't need to re-live what has happened to Iraqis, (from today's news: 13 bullet-riddled bodies found west of Baghdad ) or Afghanis (Rockets at Afghan market target French general) , we are smarter than that and so is one of our spokemen/women Mr Trita Parsi.