The email is part of the expose by Foreign Policy magazine.
//thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/11/13...
Here Hassan Daioleslam admits to a campaign of character assassination and defamation on Trita Parsi and sells it to known pro-War conservative Ken Timmerman, so he can use it against Obama and Clinton!
Timmerman is the author of "The coming nuclear showdown with Iran", who predicted that Iran will be testing a nuclear weapon by the end of the year in 2006. He also writes for such bastions of objective journalism as "NewsMax".
Read all about him here:
//www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Kenneth...
I don't know who is using who anymore. Maybe mutual to some degree: Hassan Dai and his MEK connections using Neocons to get rid of the only credible Iranian voice in Washington by "destroying" Parsi, or Neocons like Timmerman using Dai "Chalabi style" so they can push for a war with Iran. Both sides have ties to Israel. But the law of the jungle says that the more powerful (Neocons) are probably running the show.
Update 11/16/2009 : As promised I will include some of the more substantive comments made by visitors. Thanks Everyone for your participation.
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Why they hate Parsi you may ask?
by Mola Nasredeen on Mon Nov 16, 2009 08:50 AM PST
Because he asks the right questions from the right people, the ones who are residing in the centers of power.
And he lets them know immediately that he's nobody's fool, you can't fool Mr parsi. He stands his own ground while coalition building. He with the help of NIAC advanced the interests of the Iranian American Community on civic, cultural and political issues
Trita Parsi and NIAC supplied the resources, knowledge and tools to enable civic participation and informed decision making. They provided the infrastructure for bridge-building across the network of Iranian American organizations and the peoples of America and Iran.
In 2008, NIAC defeated a Congressional resolution that would have paved the way for a US-Iran war.
-- In 2009, NIAC launched a successful campaign seeking a retraction from California Representative Jane Harman, whose controversial statement regarding the "separation" of Iran's ethnic groups offended many. In response to NIAC's efforts, Rep. Harman quickly retracted her comment and expressed regret for the concern it caused.
-- NIAC successfully compelled the National Geographic Society to correct their 8th edition maps to read "Persian Gulf" instead of "Arabian Gulf."
-- NIAC successfully challenged Monster.com's discrimination against Iranian Americans, compelling the company to give Iranian Americans a fair chance to compete in the job market.
-- NIAC sought and obtained an apology from MSNBC's Don Imus for a derogatory comment he made in 2004 about an Iranian airliner crash that killed 43 passengers.
-- NIAC worked with writer/director Wayne Kramer and the Weinstein Company to make changes to the screenplay for Crossing Over (2007). The film originally depicted Iranian Americans committing an "honor killing." Had the script not changed, the movie would have had similar effects for the Iranian-American community as the film Not Without My Daughter (1991)
--NIAC has registered thousands of Iranian-American voters.
--NIAC published the first-ever IranCensus, showing the make-up of our community.
There are those in the center of power who want to turn the cold war between US and Iran into a military war and they hate NIAC and Trita Parsi while Iranian Americans who lived during US Hostage Crisis hate to re-live that period.
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Update. Dai was confronted about his false allegations and his personal connections to MEK on Persian TV.
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OKtaby
by IRANdokht on Sun Nov 15, 2009 02:03 PM PSTAre you OK?
You seem to be in such a rush to accuse Trita Parsi and Q of whatever you can make up out of thin air and blame them for everything that goes wrong in the world, you didn't even notice that I had not addressed you when you responded to Niloufar Parsi?
I must say, I'm flattered of course, but it does show your state of mind... Calm down! Trita is not muslim and he's not with the IRI and IRI would not have allowed their lobby to have these people on their board.
Take a deep breath dear, and remember just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not out to get you ;-) (just kidding) :o)
IRANdokht
Lets take a look at the ones who don't like Trita Parsi and NIAC
by Mola Nasredeen on Sun Nov 15, 2009 01:55 PM PSTWhile,
they all proclaim their love for the peace and prosperity of Iranians the truth is much different.
1. Monarchists: they support the freeloader/corrupt Pahlavi Family, the same ones who stole billions of dollars from the Iranian nation when they escaped from Iran.
2. Mojahedin: They support Rajavi and his family. Mojahedin are the same ones who helped Saddam Hossein during the Iran Iraq war. No more explanation is required to know their alligance.
3. AIPAC/Neocons: The followers of Israel's Likude party and Zionist movement, a racist ideology (proclaimed by the United Nations) who are occupying other people's land in the Middle East. Zionist don't want peace with Iran. Mojahedin and monarchists are in bed with AIPAC and neocons. They don't hide it either.
Where's their love for Iranians? They all advocate regime change at any price ala Iraq or Afghanistan?
There was a time when CNN or CBS would interview the monarchists or Mojahedins as the representatives of Iranian Americans but no more. Now a day, it's people like Trita Parsi and NIAC who are interviewed to give their opinion about the Iranian situration and this is exactly why NIAC is hated so much by the above groups.
Mr.[no offense]OKtaby
by capt_ayhab on Sun Nov 15, 2009 01:53 PM PSTLets analyze your logic shall we??
You have none, you are just a hired hand to come in and scream your head off[arbadeh kashi]
If you have documentation to present against the ladies and the gentlemen of the commentators bring it on, other than that take a chill pill and spend your fosh where they belong,,,,,,,, your own private dwelling [You know where that is mage na?]
-YT
Q, F or whatever, don't speak for Iranians. You don't qualify
by oktaby on Sun Nov 15, 2009 01:10 PM PSTIrandokht, Pickering giving legitimacy to trita? That's more like an indictement. see below
If AN the selected president in Iran, say in a future existence, becomes member of a lobby organization, does that give him or that org credibility?
If Bush jr. is part of a lobby organization today, does that bring credibility to that org?
and non of this changes trita's colored history, status and 'weard' conditions and settings or Brezinsky/carter connection.
//www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11311 ...Along with Thomas Pickering, Susan Rice, Gayle Smith, Donald Payne, Ed Royce, John Podesta, Anthony Lake, Bill and Hillary Clinton and others, these are the architects of covert operations in Africa during the Clinton years.[
//www.wrmea.com/archives/July_2000/0007090.html “I spent almost eight years in the Middle East, first serving as an ambassador to Jordan and then as an ambassador to Israel,” Pickering said. “At the time of my foreign service there I had an opportunity to meet many fascinating people and to get embroiled in one of my favorite occupations—archeology.”
//www.reasons-for-war-with-iraq.info/ "We see evidence that we think is quite clear on contacts between Sudan and Iraq. In fact, El Shifa officials, early in the company's history, we believe were in touch with Iraqi individuals associated with Iraq's VX program."
OKtaby
Oktaby (Re: ignorance and idiocy)
by Q on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:27 PM PSTplease improve your reading comprehension skills. You're becoming a sad embarrassment to all Iranians.
Oktaby
by Niloufar Parsi on Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:18 PM PSTi was just reading the relevant washington times article, and came across this enlightening para:
"Among NIAC's advisory board members are former Undersecretary of State Thomas Pickering, and John Limbert, a former U.S. hostage in Iran, was a board member until his recent appointment as deputy assistant secretary of state for Iran."
now, does NIAC sound like an IRI lobby group with such board members?
then I looked at the NIAC response to the WT article, and it clearly states:
"NIAC is a 501 (c)3 educational organization representing Americans of Iranian descent. It engages in educational, advocacy and limited lobbying activities in accordance with US laws and regulations. NIAC does not lobby on behalf of the Islamic Republic. NIAC advocates on behalf of the Iranian-American community, who overwhelmingly oppose the policies of the government of Iran."
looks like there is no case really.
Q or whatever incarnations you come in as
by oktaby on Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:49 AM PSTYou may or may not be a moslem but you are ommatie. It is a personality trait that comes from deep insecurities, complexes and a twisted world view. the same that makes your clan rape and murder in Iran and then use all kinds of twisted logic and explanations to justify it and its agents. One's religion has little to do with crookedness or khaen character that is the trademark of IRR and islamist. You can name yourself DaVinci and that does not make you a master artist. Apparently you were bon in Iran but you are no Irani. It is love of my Iranian heritage and knowing its enemies and your clan is the enemy of that heritage.
OKtaby
True ignorance and idiocy
by Q on Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:27 AM PSTis calling Trita Parsi "Islamic crook" when he is not Muslim. Nevermind the idiotic "crook" allegation with no substance except one's hate-filled imagination.
I hope this was clear and unambiguous to you Oktaby!
Logic and intel. Big words for ommatie crowd
by oktaby on Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:23 AM PSTignorance is not bliss. Read your sequence of blabber on this thread to understand what idiotic is. The day of reckoning for your whole clan will come.
OKtaby
"Johny Come Latelies"
by Mola Nasredeen on Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:27 AM PSTTake note,
-- In 2008, NIAC defeated a Congressional resolution that would have paved the way for a US-Iran war.
-- In 2009, NIAC launched a successful campaign seeking a retraction from California Representative Jane Harman, whose controversial statement regarding the "separation" of Iran's ethnic groups offended many. In response to NIAC's efforts, Rep. Harman quickly retracted her comment and expressed regret for the concern it caused.
-- NIAC successfully compelled the National Geographic Society to correct their 8th edition maps to read "Persian Gulf" instead of "Arabian Gulf."
-- NIAC successfully challenged Monster.com's discrimination against Iranian Americans, compelling the company to give Iranian Americans a fair chance to compete in the job market.
-- NIAC sought and obtained an apology from MSNBC's Don Imus for a derogatory comment he made in 2004 about an Iranian airliner crash that killed 43 passengers.
-- NIAC worked with writer/director Wayne Kramer and the Weinstein Company to make changes to the screenplay for Crossing Over (2007). The film originally depicted Iranian Americans committing an "honor killing." Had the script not changed, the movie would have had similar effects for the Iranian-American community as the film Not Without My Daughter (1991)
--NIAC has registered thousands of Iranian-American voters.
--NIAC published the first-ever IranCensus, showing the make-up of our community.
Question for Johny Come Latelies: What have you done for Iranian Americans?
Anything?
Going once! Going twice!
Nothing!
Nothing is exactly what hatemongers and warmongers have done for us.
Wrong Oky! Intelligent people can arbitrate idiotic statements
by Q on Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:03 AM PSTOktaby: You really don't know what you're talking about. Are you calling Parsi an "Islamic crook" now?
Q: Yes and I was extremely clear and unambiguous
This was an idiotic statement.
I hope that was clear for you.
Q: Yes and I was extremely clear and unambiguous
by oktaby on Sun Nov 15, 2009 09:54 AM PSTLow lives come in many forms, trita is just another. You don't qualify to arbitrate what I know and I have no interest in educating you. ommatie know all as you get your info and orders from a higher authority.
OKtaby
NIAC Actions Had Supported IRI
by Ahura on Sun Nov 15, 2009 09:46 AM PSTThe facts speak for themselves that IRI (Islamic Republic of Iran) is a ruthless religious dictatorship serving the ruling mullahs and their armed organs at the detriment of Iranian society and people. Mr. Trita Parsi through his incipient NIAC has engaged in campaigning for normal relations between US and IRI regime in the Capital Hill and US administration. He advocates no sanctions and no pressure on IRI so few Iranian expatriates with vested interest in IRI can conduct their business as usual while thousands of Iranian patriots are being imprisoned and executed by IRI regime.
A “Johnny come lately” Mr. Trita Parsi has picked up the banner of human rights in the no longer deniable and well documented images of beating, battering, and killing of innocent unarmed Iranians by the ruthless barbaric IRI armed agents. Trying to refute the message by attacking the messenger (Mr. Dai in this case) is a discredited tactic which holds no water and is an insult to the reader.
It is proper to question the policies of Obama in giving too much time to IRI with their established delay and fraud tactics (“taghieh”, oh yes so close to “tanghieh”) as Iranian opposition put it “Obama baa oonaaie yaa baa maa” (Obama are you with them or with us.) It is quite legal to participate in election campaigns and engage in promoting your candidate while opposing the other. Mr. Dai is not engaged in character assassination but rather in exposing the illegal activities of a supporter of an American Senator up for reelection. The email even goes one step further in public relations campaign and asks for “politically correct” nature of action. This is a widely used term in US public arena and is an accepted practice.
The US legal system and the due process will establish validity of the charges filed by/against Mr. Trita Parsi, regardless of our writings to influence the public opinions among the readers of Iranian.com site. The court has the last word.
I do think it's pretty
by vildemose on Sun Nov 15, 2009 09:42 AM PSTI do think it's pretty sleazy for him to have founded an organization that claims to be representative of Iranian Americans when he isn't an Iranian American himself.
I couldn't agree more. However, who says that NIAC was trita's brain child?? I don't think it was his "idea". I think Brezinski et al and those leftist who work in the CIA and state department have a lot to do with forming NIAC. Trita just happens to be their mouth piece....
Fred jan, we all admire your honest and heart-felt "concerns"!
by Q on Sun Nov 15, 2009 09:32 AM PSTI'm really touched by your valid concerns Fred,
by Fred on Sat Nov 14, 2009 02:07 PM PST:
From what Trita Parsi would say during his interviews, I was under the impression that he is a naturalized American. My understanding is for non Americans presenting themselves as Americans is grounds for legal action by the federal government.
by Fred on Sun Nov 15, 2009 04:34 AM PST:
As far as freedom in the bastion of freedom, America, is concerned, NIAC lobby has every right to lobby any one they wish. The immigration status of NIAC lobby’s lifetime president is no barrier to such lobbying activity.
Likewise, I'm sure the rest of your present concerns, even "biggies" ones are equally valid!
Oktaby: You really don't know what you're talking about. Are you calling Parsi and "Islamic crook" now?
The wheels are in motion to round up IRR orgs & agents
by oktaby on Sun Nov 15, 2009 09:22 AM PSTIt started several months ago and the most significant event so far was putting the tag on alavi foundation. But the investigations have been on. Niac's is just another small step. Even VOA attitude towards IRR is less friendly. There is more...503c is one of many legal avenues. That trita is a resident alien is just typical of islamic crooks without any shame or honor and skirting the law as they have no regard for it. Al Capone was put away on tax evasion not for his murders and bootlegging. The wheels are in motion and this will extend to the vatan foroush and traitors (as Iranian , American or both- never mind trita that we don't know what the heck he is) that have been on the take and found IRR to be a profitable partner. It would not surprise me to see certain 'businessmen', 'community leaders' and TV owners/characters like Tapesh and even some IRR defenders on this site to be on the arrest or suspect list. And if they escape this investigation, there will be others post islamic regime.
OKtaby
Go NIAC. Let me explain.
by Javadagha on Sun Nov 15, 2009 08:41 AM PSTGo NIAC. Let me explain.
NIAC is battling many opposition groups, including AIPAC which has over $300,000,000 and over 400 working for it.
Onlyiran, you are wrong. We cannot use percentages. Let me explain. What is the percentage of Jews in the U.S.? How much of the media do they control? Now you know why Zimmerman and people him bark very loud.
I am surprised that Amil and MasoudA have not attacked NIAC yet. They will show up soon. It seems that paid agents such as the famous chicken is posting.
In my view, the majority of Eye-ranians who Onlyiran mentioned are moftkhoor so it will be good if NIAC does not represent them.
Reza Shah nim-Phalavi has not done anything for our community to stand up to the likes of AIPAC. AIPAC controls the media, congress and senate members in the U.S. Those who live in the U.S. will see more mud coming their way soon.
My two cents
by Onlyiran on Sun Nov 15, 2009 07:45 AM PSTI think that NIAC, or any other person or organization for that matter, should be free to advocate whatever point of view they wish so long as they are doing so legally. And frankly, I don't know much about the law in that area (lobbying, etc.) to make an informed judgment, or even comment, about the issues that are raised about the activities of NIAC.
The one problem that I have with the NIAC is that it holds itself out to be the representative of the Iranian American community, which it clearly is not. It has a membership of about 2500. The Iranian American community probably numbers one million or more, which means that this organization's membership is less than 0.25% of that community. Therefore, holding itself out as advocating the position of Iranian Americans is a gross misrepresentation of the facts and the strength, or the popularity, of the organization. While I admire Mr. Parsi's efforts to elevate his organization's standing within the political community, the facts are the facts. What NIAC wants to be and what it actually is are two totally different things.
What Does NIAC Stand For?
by Mola Nasredeen on Sun Nov 15, 2009 07:26 AM PSTNIAC stands for
Advancing the interests of the Iranian-American Community on civic, cultural and political issues
They also supply the resources, knowledge and tools to enable civic participation and informed decision making.
They provide the infrastructure for bridge-building across the network of Iranian American organizations and the peoples of America and Iran
They take their responsibility to the Iranian American community seriously and stand and defend their principles. NIAC integrity is fundamentally interwoven in their core philosophy, advocacy and actions.
NIAC take pride and celebrate our rich heritage and our contribution to American life and sets an example for future Iranian Americans.
NIAC is transparent in sharing objectives, resources of funding and positions on issues that counts.
Now can you say the same thing about the Bush lovers who attack NIAC on this website? People like ex-PC or AIPAC whipping boys like Fred, or Born again Monarchists like Dariush Kadivar?
One has to ask the above haters what have they done for Iranian Americans but negative publicity and hatemongering?
I don't know what to think
by timothyfloyd on Sun Nov 15, 2009 05:09 AM PSTI don't know what to think of Trita Parsi.
Theres bad,there's good.
Regardless of my Country :) Let me write something,because I've been thinking about it this story...
I will start with what I see as few fact's,
ask some questions
and then leave my opinion about this situation..Maybe will help,if not well who really cares anyway..
1. In This lawsuit for years and current media,this whole thing,the NIAC is engaging in negative public imagery.Tis a bad show for the NIAC.
2.There is no need to slam American's because they are concerned with mahmonkey.They are protective of the United States.Thats natural for them...Like you..We're trying to come together remember? The NIAC won't gain anything from it,it goes against what is supposed to be the purpose of the NIAC.Waste of time,waste of assets..Wasted days and Wasted Nights..
3. In the meantime,The NIAC has left itself open for criticism by failing to do it's job.It may be a good thing for Mr.Parsi to run a 'kindler,gentler' administration.
4. Iranians should be glad the legitimacy of the NIAC and it's involvement with the Regime is being made certain not to exist.To the public.A postive will come.Maybe this should be the number one fact but I'm lazy.
5. Had the NIAC's legitimacy not been in question this would not have happened.Pro-Peace? Who knew? .I thought they were bombing Jew's tommorow.
6. The NIAC has not combined American interest into the Iranian/American interest. American interest is strong in America of course. So to influence it,you must adhere at least somewhat to it and inject yourself into it.If that means totally going against Iranian interest to gain American interest,you have to make your choice and rethink your purpose once again.I know you must unswear America as you enter Iran,not so here.
My opinion is ,If you are a Iranian I would think you would appreciate a Proven to be Authentic lobby,Americans want one. But I would think Iranians especially with that dictorial regime that is a leech on it's people,not only in Iran but across the world.American's know that and that is exactly the problem here and now.
Mr.Timmerman and his motives as well as Dai,if you like them or not,have been going on forever and this just seems to conviently have happened ,up in the news but it is not really the driving factor here.This is not really the issue.
I believe There's more to meet the eye than this typical boring Islamic Neocon vs Non Islamic Neocon argument..
I don't think it's really about the Greencard either becuase I don't believe that will go far,only to oust Mr. Parsi.But I certainly coud be wrong.
I think its the begining of the house cleaning that started last week.
Have a wonderful free day!
The problem
by Fred on Sun Nov 15, 2009 04:34 AM PSTNIAC lobby supporters, specially the lefty ones who happen to support its conjoined twin, CASMII lobby and most of the Islamist Rapist Republic’s policies, the more anti-American the better, fail to appreciate the core argument of the legal case NIAC lobby has started.
As far as freedom in the bastion of freedom, America, is concerned, NIAC lobby has every right to lobby any one they wish. The immigration status of NIAC lobby’s lifetime president is no barrier to such lobbying activity.
The problem is and it is a biggie, NIAC lobby claims to be a so called 501(c) 3, nonprofit organization. That is contrary to its lobbying activities like arranging meetings for IRR ambassador and as such violates many laws. Least of which is U.S. tax exemption laws, all those people who have made tax-exempt donations to NIAC lobby will have IRS issue as does NIAC lobby.
Also NIAC lobby has received grants based on its representation as a 501 (c) 3, which should proven to the contrary is also defrauding based on false pretenses. There are many other very serious legal issues which this NIAC lobby civil action against a lone Iranian will trigger to be investigated.
EPC
by Niloufar Parsi on Sun Nov 15, 2009 03:48 AM PSTi really don't get what the issue is with Trita. He is an Iranian living in America. He is involved in political activities in the manner that the US constitution is supposed to protect. what his papers show about his status is irrelvant to what and who he decides to support. to limit his freedom of association (which includes lobbying for as long as he is not violently engaged) based on his residency details is to curtail his rights through a back door. it is hypocritical.
and you have to appreciate the irony of your own position here: an american who has never been to iran yet fully enaged every day on iranian issues on IRANIAN.com. Now you are arguing against an iranian person's right to lobby for whatever he believes in while living in the US. a bit weak isn't it, EPC?
So Trita is engaged in lobbying for a cause you do not believe in. That justifies putting him away?
Peace
Craig
by Nousha Arzu on Sun Nov 15, 2009 02:40 AM PSTWell said, as usual.
LONG LIVE THE GLORY OF KUROSH
Nasredeen & NP
by ex programmer craig on Sun Nov 15, 2009 02:20 AM PSTMole,
NIAC Must Be Doing Somthing Right for bringing out the reaction
On the contrary! I would say the vigorous and agressive defense NIAC is receiving from such well know IRI supporters such as yourself says pretty much all that needs to be said :)
Niloufar Parsi,
The green card issue sounds like a red herring for sure.
Red Herring? The man is not a US National. That's all there is to it. Whether or not he's committed any criminal acts by lobbying the US government when he's not a citizen is not for me to decide, but I do think it's pretty sleazy for him to have founded an organization that claims to be representative of Iranian Americans when he isn't an Iranian American himself.
in any case,
from what i understand the card is a necessary first step for getting
citizenship.
No not really. It's a "permit" to establish permanent residency in the US. Most of the time it isn't possible to become a naturalized citizen without becoming a resident first, but it's not correct to say getting a green card is a "first step". The US does not recognize tri-nationality so he would have to renounce either his Swedish or Iranian citizenship to become a US citizen. Don't get me wrong: there's nothing wrong with him living and working in the US with (only) a green card for as long as he wants to. Where he crossed an ethical line was misrepresenting himself as a US national. Where he may or may not have crossed a legal line is by lobbying the US Federal government without having registered as a foreign lobbyist. I personally think from what I've seen in news stories yesterday and today the evidence is pretty clear he's been lobbying US Government officials on behalf of the IRI. I don't even know what else to call it when an individual is using personal connections to broker private meetings between US Congressmen and IRI officials. Is there another name besides "Lobbying"? lol.
Anyway that last bit is obviously not for me to decide.
I've been complaining about how NIAC press releases seem to be the IRI party line for quite a while, and I'll just stick with that and let the FBI decide if he's broken the law.
And by the way, trying to directly influence US foreign policy is far beyond "expressing his opinion". Would you also say that AIPAC is just expressing an opinion? Seems like I've heard you say quite the opposite :p
Q: i agree
by Niloufar Parsi on Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:48 PM PSTthe green card issue sounds like a red herring for sure. in any case, from what i understand the card is a necessary first step for getting citizenship.
regardless, he is a citizen of the world and fully entitled to voice his political opinion or to join any group he chooses. people are allowed to campaign for whales and icebergs anywhere in the world, but to campaign for human beings requires citizenship?! isn't this a failing of iran that we all wish to rectify? how come 'democracy supporters' are now putting people on trial for their political activities in the US?
I've said it before and I'll say it again here...
by MOOSIRvaPIAZ on Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:42 PM PSTNo matter what you think of Trita or NIAC. We NEED them today to counter AIPAC and neocons damaging policies to Iranian democracy movement.
This is not to say that IRI is innocent in all of this. I mentioned in another post that Iranians are worse off because of the regimes
adventurous and dangerous foreign policies. But lets face it, we cant change IRI while
they are holding 70 million people hostage. What we can do however is try and influence the
way US is dealing with the regime.
If the United States and IRI dont engage, make no mistake,
the only other path is confrontation and full fledged war. Do we want that?
Now from my view, NIAC is
argueing for engagement precisely because the alternatives are not in
Iranians/Americans interests. The engagement policy is not about legitimizing the brutal IRI but avoiding something that is going to
make the livelihoods of Iranians even worse than already is.
Let me also add that there are Iranians who DO want a conflict. Of course it is not a positive position to take publicly because a) majority of Iranian exiles dont support the position b) you're going to look like a warmongering zealout who is no better than the regime.
So what is best way to carry out your agenda? Go after pro-peace groups and tarnish their reputation by claiming that they work for the IRI regime. It's the easiest trick in the book and it can work if you're good at it. Being in bed with the neocons, certain exiles have learned from their masters well.
Niloufar: The Green card is a red herring
by Q on Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:20 PM PSTFirst, thank you for your sane and reasonable voice in this debate which inevitably turns hateful and petty by those who have personal agendas.
The Green card issue is bogus. In the US, Green Card holders enjoy the right to serve in the military and to do political organizing and even political donations. I wish the defense would listen to some of these clueless idiots and waste their reputatoin bringing up the "green card" argument.
Trita Parsi was a congressional aid for years, which would mean, he had much greater access than any lobbyist and why didn't anybody care back then?
so, this is a total red herring, a "guilt by association" and "guilt by insinuation" that both Hassan Dai and his neoconservative bankrollers have perfected to an art.
It is totally meaningless legally. But it illustrates my theory of why Hassan could be getting played like a cheap fiddle.
They have either fooled or found a fool (Dai) to put his neck on the line legally making these wild accusations, when they know these have no merrit. They are not interested in the court case, but this publicity is what they wanted all along.
Think about it, according to one of the emails in the expose, the lawyer they provided Hassan Dai, is enthusiastically telling him to send evidence to Washington Times!!!? The guy is getting sued! Does that sound like a lawyer that has his best interest in mind being this irresponsible with evidence?
Or is it just a scam to achieve the neocons' political aims (remove an obstacle to war) in the guise of a lawsuit with a patsy like Dai? Not just him but a whole galley of cheerleaders who can't see beyond their immediate hatred.
Nothing more ironic than so-called "true" ,"proud" and "patriotic" Persians being payed and manipulated based on their nationalistic emotions like 19th century colonial subjects that some of them remain mentally.
This "court of public opinion" pressure for their personal political agendas is illustrated in the email. When all it's said and done, poor Dai could be left holding the bag being fined for damages, while Timmerman and the boys have a laugh about what public relations damage they may have caused the Democrats.
there are some
by Niloufar Parsi on Sat Nov 14, 2009 09:52 PM PSThumane principles that are above political ideology. way above. one of them is the issue of peace. regardless of who is in charge in iran, those of us who do care to voice an opinion have a duty - in my opinion - to promote peaceful relations and avoidance of war. NIAC's commitment to bring greater understanding between the US and Iran is a great service to the people of both countries.
those who are so quick to throw insults and accusations at the other side should try and remember that we all believe that we are right and speak from positions that are close to our hearts with good intentions.
However, those who promote violent means for ending the power struggle between the 2 countries are, in my opinion, totally misguided and even dangerous to our species' survival.
none of the above relates to iran's internal struggle for freedom. that is a matter for iran and iranians, and the US has no role to play other than diplomatic relations and negotiations, and leading by example, if she can manage to do that. for now, the US is up to her neck in wars and double standards.
Now some have stooped to putting people like Trita on trial essentially for his political opinion, but based on a technicality related to nationality. land of the free?
Q: i for one have always found you steadfast in arguing for peace and
normalisation of relations between the 2 countries, and for this you
deserve great credit.
Peace
Nikahang Kowsar's report on Radio Zamaneh
by Q on Sat Nov 14, 2009 08:41 PM PSTدر باره این ادعا که نایاک از ایران و یا
نهادهایی حتی خصوصی در ایران وجهی دریافت کرده، هنوز هیچ سندی منتشر نشده است و در اینباره سعی خواهیم کرد با آقای پارسی و نیز همکاران و همچنین منتقدین نایاک گفتوگو کنیم.
باید تأکید کرد که این سازمان مواضعی دارد که از نظر بخش عمدهای از ایرانیان آمریکا دارای اهمیت بسیاری است و موافقین زیادی دارد، از جمله رفع تحریم ایران و عادی سازی رابطه با آمریکا.
//zamaaneh.com/analysis/2009/11/post_1221.htm...
NIAC actions to me don't look like pro IRI actions
by Anahid Hojjati on Sat Nov 14, 2009 07:35 PM PSTI see that some people here are writing that NIAC is pro IRI. As a member of NIAC who receives their correspondence, I don't see their actions pro IRI. Few months ago, as green movement was going full fledged, Obama administration was talking about doing more regarding negotiating with Iran. I felt like the timing was off. As people were protesting that AN was selected not elected, US government was trying to do negotiation with Iran. After years of not negotiating, that was not a good time to pick fpr getting hot and heavy about negotiating with Iran. I went to web site of US department and commented about this to them that they should go slow about negotiating for a while until there was some resolution to issue of cheating in Iran's elections. After my e-mail, I remember seeing that NIAC had an e-mail and they had said the same thing. NIAC was asking US government to go slow on negotiation since people were protesting AN election.
The reason I remember NIAC position is that I had come to same conclusion independent of them and then I saw that NIAC was stating the same thing. To me, this NIAC position does not seem pro IRI but pro people of Iran. As a member, I believe their positions are taken with interest of Iranian people in mind.