Quintessential Questions

HollyUSA

Eh?

Well You just keep on waiting Honey. She accused me of doing things i did not and I did provide her with answers I DEEMED to be sufficient. Kinda like what you guys do around here right? Doing whatever it is you want to do, based on whatever reasoning.

You did not make any pledges? my bad then. Well... I guess that puts you in a very special position doesn't it?

K the answer is YES

"IS that a FAct? Are you serious? So. One can have Iran's love and best
interest at Heart, Even if that means Benefitting IRI in some form???"

Yes if you want to bomb Iran just to get rid of the IRI, I am opposed to it even if that means the IRI will remain in power. It sure as hell won't be indefinitely and I'm not willing to 'save time' with the blood of millions of my brothers and sisters. So YES!

Kourosh

I was talking about "Nusha and the likes" and you jumped in there saying that's not how YOU feel.

I just wanted to know why you felt so compelled to reply to me and defend yourself when I wasn't even talking about you nor addressing you

Were you just trying to shut me up for the heck of it? then why did you sound like you were defending yourself LOL  unbelievable!

IRANdokht

Kourosh

"Does everyone remember their "Pledges" after IC was back in Buisness? All those appologies... Romantic exchanges..."

I made no pledges and I sure as hell didn't get romantic with anyone. 

Now ID has asked you some good epcific questions. I'm waiting to read your specific answers.

Irandokht

I do not not take anything with YOU personally. I don't even know Nusha.. So quit while your ahead. You are not getting anywhere with this:)

Do i related to him? How badly do you wanna know? I don't agree on bombing IRANIANS because it is wrong and No matter how hard you try to push me in that direction and Put words in my mouth, Sorry aziz.. In vasle ha be man yeki nemichasbe.. Go on to the next fella. Good luck.

Am i labelling poeple as such? LOL you must be outta your mind. Chera hala asabi mishi in vaghte sob? I don't know the answer to that Question. Since you brought it up why don't you enligten me. In your ever-so-famous calm manner:)

Again. i did not take it personally. I am not overly concerned with anyone's choice of where to live. Why should i be??? the point is that one needs to put his money where his mouth is. Vassalam.

HollyUSA, you're joking, right?

You write: "b) You don't comprehend the true essence of wanting what is best for Iran ie. you are a 'vatan foroosh'

This is why people like you, IRI supporters of the first order, are so pathetically arrogant. You think YOU and YOUR type are the ONLY ones able to "comprehend the true essence of wanting what is best for Iran" and everybody who disagrees with your fountain of "best" knowledge is "vatan forroosh."

Do you see how ridiculous and self-diluted you sound? (by the way, my experience has taught me that a great many basijis and die-hard IRI personnel are in fact this arrogant). You think supporting the IRI, as Q does openly and blatantly in every one of his posts, represents the "true essence of wanting what is best for Iran?" 

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!!!!!!

The IRI has made Iran into a bankrupt sewer nation of heroin addicts and prostitutes! We have the highest per capita heroin addicts in the world, massive unemployment, massive corruption, massive prostitution, massive mismanagement of the economy, massive BRAIN-DRAIN, rampid torture, rape and oppression of innocent people, and here you are with your massively condescending jibber-jabber that you and your type are the only ones able to "comprehend" what is "best" for Iran, and as such, people like me who disagree with you, must be "vatan forroosh!"

Do you see how polluted you are with righteousness, which is so patently sickening considering the IRI has had over 30 years to prove your point and has FAILED MISERABLY ON EVERY FRONT IMMAGINABLE! 

Who died and made you the arbiter of what is in the "best interest" of Iran? And since when has the IRI ever done a single damn thing in the interest of Iran? Best interest of Iran? Are you joking?! EVERYTHING THE IRI DOES IS IN ITS OWN INTEREST -- INCLUDING THE NUCLEAR PROGRAM!

And here you are telling me that I can't "comprehend" what is in the best interest of my country! If you're not the World Champion Porroo of ALL-TIME, then you must be the runner-up.

And let's not confuse the issue -- this discussion is not about bombing Iran, it started out with a simple question, which IRI supporters always obfuscate, i.e., if the IRI is such a wonderful entity, if the mullahs are doing such a fantastic job running Iran, why do people like Q, who actively support the IRI, live in the lap of Uncle Sam in sunny Southern California?  Why don't they live under the economically mismanaged tyranny of the IRI?

LONG LIVE THE GLORY OF KUROSH 

Masalan...

This is supposed to be the Revived and Re-born version of Iranian.com. Does everyone remember their "Pledges" after IC was back in Buisness? All those appologies... Romantic exchanges...

Pas chi shod? So what happened?:)

Bah bah... Chashhme ma rooshan...

Kourosh

It seems like you took my comment personally. Was it because I said people like Nusha?

Do you relate to arzu that much? so how come you don't agree with Nusha on bombing Iran? or is it just sanctions you prefer?

Or did you think I was talking about you because you are labeling people islamist and IRI agent? Have you been labeling people as such?

Or did you take it personally because you are overly concerned with where people choose to live?

which part was it?

IRANdokht

HollyUSA

No, It IS NOT by any measure.  It IS only so  by YOUR measures.!! and Yours only:)

I don't know enough about you to make that kind of Judgment. I can not base that on what i see from your writings here. IT would probably be stupid thing to ask that question from YOU, But what about others? they are not YOU. They are different.

 And I'm sick of seeing anyone who primarily has the interest of Iran in mind regardless of how it benefits/hurts the IRI OR its enemies,

IS that a FAct? Are you serious? So. One can have Iran's love and best interest at Heart, Even if that means Benefitting IRI in some form??? Whoa... i am speechless.

Yeah... nice to C you 2...

Kourosh khan

Would you call me an IRI supporter? I think not. But I bet you Arzu would! And it would be very stupid for someone who knew me to ask why I don't live in Iran trust me!  And I'm sick of seeing anyone who primarily has the interest of Iran in mind regardless of how it benefits/hurts the IRI OR its enemies, be labeled an IRI supporter and asked why they don't live in Iran.

And this IS a stupid question by any measure. JJ can delete my comments if he doesn't think so. But I doubt if he deletes based on the extent to which he agrees.

BTW, nice to see u again :P

Irandokht

Please. No one wants to "obliterate" anything. I don't think anyone here should be in the "exaggeration" buisness. No one is "demanding" to know why people choose to live where they do. What you see are mere suggestions. If i ask you why for instance you don't choose to live in china since you are so in love with chinese lifestyle, their Government and anything and everything chinese. Am i "demanding" anything? Come on. \

I wish that you would take your own advice and as much as hate being labeled as an Pro-IRI , would refrain COunter-labeling people as wanting to obliterate and destroy iran and iranians.

AR-zoo

1) Anything and everything to do with Iran concerns me.If you don't like it, well that's just too bad, Sir/Madam.

2) Don't start with the "unless you're Q" BS. It doesn't fly. Everyone here with any knowledge of the bloggers knows better. Just because you got caught with your pants down, don't think you can accuse others of the same.

3) Like I noted before, in the absence of a better argument (or perhaps of intelligence) you are continuing with the IRI supporter accusations. That, can only stem from two underlying factors:

a) You are desperate and/or ignorant (again)

b) You don't comprehend the true essence of wanting what is best for Iran ie. you are a 'vatan foroosh'

c)  (and probably true in your case) All of the above.

On that note, I shall leave you to dwell on what idiotic comment to come up with next (which by the way will be ignored sincethe likes of you are really not worth the time or effort of a serious argument).

HollyUSA

Holly jan

Why are we mixing up issues here?

 why is this an invalid and inappropriate question? i am not referring to Q or others on this thread and on this specific topic. but would it notmake more sense for someone, anyone who happens to agree with IRI policies more often than not, and absolutely hates US and what it stands for to go back and live in Iran?

 You calling this an stupid question and not warranting a response... frankly is irrelevant. Just because you think there is no answer for it , does that make it an automatically BS question?

And another thing. What makes a comment "intelligent" in your eyes? i mean what give you or anyone the right to make such a determination???????????? We are here to argue... oops ... Debate and talk about things and DISAGREEINg is what we do best.

Let us leave the decision as to what is Unintelligent and who should be quiet to the Admin and JJ, Okie dokie?:)

HollyUSA (or is it "Q")

This doesn't concern you, "HollyUSA," unless you're Q, as I know your type is overly sensitive to the question, as you're an IRI apologist also. But why do you get so bent out of shape when asked this simple question? I know why, because it touches on a sensitive nerve, as it makes you all look like shameless hypocrites.

It's a question posed to all IRI supporters. Why do you people live in a democratic country like America and support the Velayat-e-faghigh dictatorship in Iran? Why don't you people live in Iran and suffer inside the iron fist of your beloved IRI?

Hypocracy???

It's easy for you hypocrites to condemn 70 million people to that cruel fate, but you cowards sit in the comfortable lap of freedom (Great Satan) and still support the brutal dictatorship that is the IRI.

So, it begs the question, i.e., if the IRI is such a wonderful entity, and if the IRI is such a blessed creaion for Iran and 70 million Iranians, then why aren't all of you IRI supporters living in Iran, under the dictatorship of the mullahs? 

Why live in a decadent democracy like America? Please answer the question, Q. Or is "HollyUSA" your true identity?

LONG LIVE THE GLORY OF KUROSH 

well said Holly

They want to obliterate Iran, demand to know why people choose to live where you do and label anyone who does agree with them IRI agent and islamist! 

All I can say is I am so glad people like Nusha (and the likes) are not in any position of power!

IRANdokht

Q, if I may....

I'd like to respond to Nousha, not in your stead, but in general
because this STUPID question keeps being asked on this site everytime
someone is not an AIPAC supporter, doesn't condone a military attack or
sanctions on Iran, is not a monarchist and a whole array of other (in my opinion, disgusting) things. First comes the accusation of being an IRI supporter and then the question:

"Why are you not living in Iran?"

The reason that you don't generally get a response NOUSHA ARZU AND THE LIKES, is bacause a STUPID QUESTION does not warrant a response. What
kind of an ignorant line of reasoning leads you to that question anyway???

For god sake, if you don't have
anything intellignet to say, then be quiet. That way at least the entire audience won't KNOW how idiotic and desperate your line of argument is.

Q

This is your tool and trade -- to attack the messenger (now, I'm "Sassan") when all I asked was: Why do you live in Southern California when you think the IRI is sooooo good for Iran? Why don't you live in Iran?

Really?

Instead of answering this basic question, you attack my identity so as to duck the question (YET AGAIN!) -- which is a simple one and please answer it once and for all...

Why -- if the IRI is so good for Iran -- why do you live in America? Why? Don't they have schools in Iran, if you're a student? Don't they have jobs for you in Iran??? Why do you live in California, in the lap of the Great Satan? Why do you duck the question and attack me with this lame charge of being someone else?

JJ knows my identity far better than you, and I have nothing to hide -- but you obviously do!  Why don't you answer this very simple question?

Why are you living in Southern California if the IRI is so good for Iran? Why are you not living in Iran?

LONG LIVE THE GLORY OF KUROSH 

Nousha! You're Sassan aren't you?

God you people are so increadibly predictable! Now I know who you are.

You're Sassan aren't you?

"Haji Q", "lap of freedom", "IRI supporter", the cartoon slogan signature! I know a vile character assassin when I see one. JJ kicked your sorry behind out before because you couldn't communicate without slander, and it will happen again. Say bye bye now! :)

Whatever you think I am, one thing is clear: You're not that bright.

Oktababy: This stopped being about anything the moment we realized you and your friends are incapapble of making sense. In a fit of rage and emotion, you can't help but make your side look like babbling fools. Other than old-lady gossip, you haven't said one relevant fact backing up claims against Trita Parsi!
What a perfect demonstration of NIAC's opponents for all to see.

Q etc., Your history, MO and comments are there for all to see

No further need to bastardize and twist things. As I said before, the day of reckoning will come for all IRR and its goons. Good riddance.

Nousha, Their comments are fully revealing. No matter what subject it starts with it ends up in bastardization first, and gutter level hurling second and personal attacks to engage a pissing contest. very much the AN and IRR MO. This stopped being about trita a while ago when Q and other incarnations of IRR and ommatie realized they can't stand on their own hooves.

OKtaby

Why is NIAC being defamed by supporters of military confront

ation with Iran?

NIAC opposes war with Iran, and has been very successful pushing for diplomacy on Capitol Hill. NIAC's efforts lend Iranian Americans a voice in Washington, D.C.; but like all successful political organizations, it is impossible to be effective without garnering critics.

NIAC's critics often equate opposition to war with support for the Iranian government. Nothing could be further from the truth. NIAC opposes a US-Iran war because it would be detrimental to US national interest and likely prolong the reign of the current Iranian government.

NIAC's critics include neo-conservative activists like Kenneth Timmerman and Michael Rubin, two individuals who prefer war over diplomacy. Critics in the Iranian-American community include groups like the terrorist-listed People's Mujahedin of Iran (also known as the MEK or MKO).

Pahlavi lovers should be added to the above list too.

IranDokht/Q

The silly girl writes, "Trita is not muslim and he's not with the IRI and IRI would not have allowed their lobby to have these people on their board. 

Are trying to be funny? Go to the laugh factory if you're trying to be a comedian. The IRI would seek the help of the devil himself if they thought that he would help their cancer survive. Didn't they seek help from those zionist pigs in Israel during the Iran-Iraq war? That would be yes!

And Haji-Q writes to Oktaby:

"You're becoming a sad embarrassment to all Iranians." Guess what, Q, the MONUMENTALLY sad embarrassment is YOU, and people like YOU, who sit in the lap of freedom and democracy in sunny Southern California and have the disgustingly shameless porrooee to support the rapist regime in Iran, which is what YOU do in EVERY one of your posts!

So you're the embarrassment to the Iranian community, Haji-Q! Why are you not living in Qom or Tehran, if the IRI is so good for Iran? Why do you live in Southern California?

WHY?! 

You still haven't answered this simple question. The "sad embarassing" fact is that you're a blatant IRI supporter and we all have come to know this all too well, so why are you not living in Iran, where the IRI reigns supreme???

YOU, Q, YOU'RE the sad embarrassment to the MILLIONS of FREEDOM-seeking Iranians all over the world!!!  

As usual, another IRI supporter is exposed as a HYPOCRITE!

LONG LIVE THE GLORY OF KUROSH 

Craig, laughs all around!

Craig, setting aside the obvious fact that organizations are free to utilize advisory boards however they see fit in various degrees of involvement, how do you square your personal assertions with your own cited definition of "function of the advisory board":

Unlike a one-time or casual event, your Advisory Board is composed of people with a genuine interest in your business and a desire to see it do well. As I said in External Management Resources In The Business Plan, you can think of an Advisory Board as a management think tank. Your Advisory Board members will serve as a sounding board, a source of ideas and expertise - and give you honest advice.
More than anyone else, your Advisory Board will be on your side. They will be people with no axe to grind who want to listen to you and advise you. Above all, they'll want to contribute to your business's well-being.

What's hillarious this time is the obvious personal insecurity. You throw some Googled definition as a cover to advance your personal assertions because you don't think they are believable on their own.

Octababy,
Thanks for demonstrating perfectly what I mean when I say some miguided Iranians go crosseyed with rage. First you call Trita Parsi an "Islamic crook" without slightest justification, then you say it doesn't matter if I am non Muslim, I'm still "ommatie". OK!

You pretend you are concerned about American 501c3 tax system being abused, you question NIAC support in the Iranian-American community (where it is the single biggest and most effective organization) but then you turn around and say it doesn't matter what advisors of NIAC think, because they only have American interests in mind.

So let me get this straight. You want America to investigate NIAC because it has "American interests"? LOL!

Seriously, why don't you just admit you are making up crap as you go along? ...without even trying to make it sound logical or coherent. You don't care about any of this. You just hate NIAC ideologically.

"Ignorance is bliss" indeed!

EPC

yes you are right. i was talking about directors board but they are only an advisory board.

still, the association is there, though less concretely than how i described it.

NP

That's not really the function of an advisory board:

//sbinfocanada.about.com/od/management/qt/adv...

An advisory board exists for the purpose of bouncing your ideas off people on the board and soliciting their input. There's no obligation for anyone in a controlling position in the enterprise to actually do anything with that input. Or to even pay attention to the advice an advisory board offers. 

And people often join advisory boards just to boost their own credentials, which is what I suspect happened in this case. A career diplomat who specializes in Iran, joining the advisory board of an Iranian interest group. Just keeping his name out there. Nothing more.

Niloufar, I made a few observations about T. Pickering because

He was the most 'visible' of those you mentioned. Lambert has connections to the the African activity per my previous comments, as well as to Iraq and Paul Bremer when the cluster was unfolding. I recommend catching up with what Bremer did in and "to" Iraq. "A Senior Foreign Service Officer, Limbert served as president of the American Foreign Service Association (AFSA) from 2003-2005. Prior to this appointment, he was Ambassador to the Islamic Republic of Mauritania (2000-2003). While serving as Ambassador, he was one of the FIRST civilian officials to enter Baghdad in April 2003...". Lambert has been accused of being pro-IRR and that does not necessarily contradict him being a former hostage, if his current 'covert' or open agenda serves American foreign policy or his view of what may be in America's best interest. There is a whole discussion on how well IRR has served various foreign interests but that is a different topic.

Regardless, of their history people you mention are long term Foreign Service Americans and bear American Interests and in that context they do as they see appropriate (I think policies they are pushing are bad for America as well, niac included-separate discussion yet). Their connection in no way gives legitimacy to niac  being good for Iran/ or Iranian American interests and certainly not to trita that has been exposed and discussed plenty inclusing in my previous comments.

And peace

OKtaby

EPC

in my experience, being a member of the board of an organisation, especially a political one, means that you are part of the body that sets/approves its policy and strategy and its budget. normally, he would not only subscribe to its agenda, he would be setting it. though, every case has its own specifics.

Niloufar Parsi

...do you think such a person could reasonably be an agent and lobbyist for the IRI?

He's a career diplomat. Engagement is what diplomats do. Wanting to be part of the process doesn't necessarily mean he subscribes to an organizations agenda. Does it?

Oktaby

Ok my point was missed, so here it goes again: John Limbert, a former U.S. hostage in Iran, was a board member [of NIAC] until his recent appointment as deputy assistant secretary of state for Iran.

do you think such a person could reasonably be an agent and lobbyist for the IRI?

Irandokht jan: it's the eye thing, isn't it?!

peace

Mr.[no offense]Oktaby

come on ....... , don't expose yourself so quickly.......

Neet? go on, take a breeder, have some coffee to fight off the effects of the SAUCE you been drinking all day, then come back and see if you can figure out who is who.

hauler at me when you are ready. ;-o)

-YT 

P/S It is Mr. -YT 

Irandokht, sorry for using your name when responding to NP

That was a name typo, however, nothing disrespectful uttered in my comments to NP/you. The rest of your comments are not worth responding to. The readers can judge for themselves. All our comments are here to see.

Ommatie patrol: Q is holding his own, hurling verbal and logical garbage he started. No neet for YT or other brown nosers to jump in with a shovel (assuming they are differnet commentators). 

OKtaby