sophia

*Gavazn* that’s a good suggestion too

I didn’t mean to ignore Wahid’s better half, his feminine side.  I figured these few aliases would hold him over for a couple of months and I’ll cover the *Sirens* and *Sybil* in him later.

As for your serious comment – Don’t worry yourself too much.  We can never change people by force; we can only hope to influence them to change for the better.

If everyone had a place to live, enough food, sufficient healthcare, a kind heart, and a thinking brain, then what would motivate us to give a hoot about humanity?  The calamities in life, and shortcomings of individuals or cultures, are what you and I need to focus on.  We need to patiently and selflessly turn our frustration and dismay into positive energy that will eventually make the world a better place for all.  By patience, I mean it will take a very long time.  By selfless, I mean we may not be around to see the end results.  

You cannot expect other individuals to be on the same wavelength as you are.  Do not get angry at them.  Just let them be.  It takes lots of effort and many generations to effect positive changes.  

Every single individual maybe deserving of our love, but not every individual is deserving of our time.

Do not get mad at people like * i_support_khamenie*.  Up until now, it may not have been his own fault that he’s ended up like this.  However, he can no longer blame his nurture or environment as he is now responsible for the well-being of his own soul.  At least he’s honest about his feelings and, hopefully, he will eventually realize how despicable his opinion and viewpoints are.  Have you not seen the thousands of people who attend the Friday Sermons in Tehran?  Do you see the kind of challenge I’m talking about?

While most people just curse the darkness, let us collaborate with the like-minded and light some candles.  

Anvar

Anvar

And Anvar the reason I am angry today, and believe me it takes a lot to get me angry, is I am realising there is absolutely NO difference between Iranians abroad than those in Iran with regards to attitudes and guts. And I have kept silent about this, but another blog which has now been deleted, I suggested to Frayram to post a blog about myths with regards to bahais and someone immediately jumped in and said I (a non-bahai) should do it, not a bahai. Showing that there is a MISTRUST of bahais. I was totally embarrassed by the comment, and God knows what bahais thought. This is people claiming to be “impartial” and “democratic”. I am getting to think this website is not a healthy place to be.  

i care less about religious beliefs but I can't eat their foods

Even though I can care less about what people believe in, for some for odd reason I still have a hard time eating food prepared by relgious minorities especially if a comment is made right before i eat the food.

For example, if someone tells me the beef masala at the Indian restaurant was prepared by HIndus, I lose my appeptite.

If someone tells me that the apple pie was a gift from a Bahai, for some odd reason, I lose my appetite and can't eat it.

Heck, when our Christian neighbor would bring cakes and appetizers as a gift, it went straight from the door, to the fridge for a couple of days and then garbage can - if my mom and dad didn't eat it.

It's weird, I can't explain it. I almost feel like throwing up if someone tells me the relgion of the person that prepared it.

I can tolerate Jewish foods because they are very close to Islamic preparation.

Proposing new aliases for Wahid

Instead of changing himself, Wahid Azal changes his aliases.  Just like a baby that soils himself and requires frequent diaper changes.  Of course, babies eventually grow up and stop soiling themselves.  Alas…

Since this individual keeps getting banned on this site; So that we won’t get deprived of his brain droppings and comic relief, I am suggesting the following user IDs for him to use when he needs to create new accounts (don’t tell *JJ*):

*Scorpion*  (infamous Poisonous Nature)
*Oscar the Grouch*  (misanthropic Garbage Lover)
*Mini Me*  (wants to be Dr. Evil when he grows up)
*Tasmanian Devil*  (uniquely Australian creature- star of Looney Tunes)  
*Black Hole*  (gets all the Love & Light, but reflects none)
*Hindenburg*  (full of Gas and similar Fate)
*Kiddie Pool*  (infamous for Shallowness)
*Text Butcher*  (skilful at Copy & Paste)
*Newton’s Apple*  (eventually falls down)
*Furnace*  (lots of Heat but no Light)
*Rattler*  (Noisy snake with a Forked Tongue)
*Weather Vane*  (changes Mind per Wind Direction)
*White Dwarf*  (a degenerated has-been star that is just too Dense)

And my favorite:
*Total Eclipse*  (with all the Light around, still manages to remain Dark!)

You’re Welcome!

Anvar

Why be selective? Rosie said "racist" too

So as long as someone massages you ego, terminologies are not relevant. But because I do not it is. You obviously care about TRUTH!

"dangerous NWO cult who are not only an existential threat to Iran"

LOL. People like YOU are, but carry on the rant. I know of NO young Iranian that would go for your hate tripe intermingled in the guise of Zoroastrian. We care about HUMANITY not people hiding behind religions who are looking for power.

Yesterday it was Bayani with Wahid Azal, today it is Zoroastrian with Nima Vasspaan. Fickle little thing, aren't you? Was the arab name not doing much for your image and brainwashing techniques?

Who said I am remotely interested in engaging with Haifan Bahaim

Other than to expose them far and wide as a dangerous NWO cult who are not only an existential threat to Iran but ultimately to Israel as well as I have said many, many times in numerous venues. But you are attempting now to define and pigeonhole Bahaism and Baha'is as a race. This is very interesting because it transparently reveals for all to see an aspect of the narrative I have been attempting to expose here.Thanks for doing my work for me on this one. Yes, Sag Bahai. What of it? Don't glaze-eyed Persian Baha'is regularly engage in the same when amongst each other they talk about Bad Mosalmoonhaa, Shi'e-ye Shanee'e (one of Abbas Effendi's own designations) and call folks Bad Johood!I have a recent facebook message by a Baha'i In Good Standing explicitly using the term Bad Johood. Wanna see it again?

Only in Javidestan!

Is calling "S*g Bahai" engaging with Bahais?

And now you have people crawling up you liek there is no tomorrow. What I want to say to JJ is how do you think people who were called these terms feel about this person returning and intimidating ?

This is how you treated me when I engaged with you:

"The Baha'i Internet Agency seems to like to hire the type of oghde'i bacheh-nonor who is always complaining and tattling about the other kids in school to the schoolmaster. Of course Gavazn is also the type of oghde'i bacheh nonor who always used to get their heads kicked in for good reason by the other kids after school. "

See also your reply to JJ:

by Xvarnah on Wed Jun 09, 2010 07:48 PM PDT

This whole blog is not hatred together with its comments by your Baha'i friends?!?

//iranian.com/main/blog/faryarm/sincere-open-letter-posted-web-1990s-about-nima-wahid-azal-nur-his-close-friend-terry?

Sag-Bahai is a very appropriate term of description for the abusive nitwits of the Baha'i Internet Agency here whom you have allowed to take over the place and bully virtually everyone who has any criticism of these cultists. They act like rabid dogs and they are Baha'is, so that makes them Sag Bahai! If the folks in Iran had one thing right about these people, it was that term: Sag Bahai.

Now why don't you show an even hand (or don't even hands come out of Dezful) and block your old UNM buddy Sarbaz, then Faryar, Truthseeker9, sagkoochooloo, Gavazn, Shepesh, Anvar and the other members of the Baha'i peanut gallery who have shown far more abusive behavior here (and to multiple people) than someone calling these people Sag-Bahai. Is it because these people are paying your bills around here and so all consideration is weighed in their favor no matter what they say and do, and so you will bend over backwards for them?

Iranian.Com "where only double-standards are sacred and whoever pays JJ's bills will receive all the consideration in the world"

You, JJ, are a puta without a shred of integrity! Naa-mard is the perfect description of the kind of rat that you are. Go figure. Voice for the Islamic Republic one day; latrine cleaner for the Baha'is the next. That is who you are and that is why this site is dying its slow and well deserved death. May you go to hell with it, and take your Baha'i friends with you!

Gavazn

You introduce an interesting proposition, namely, that Bahaism is a race and that anyone who engages in denouncing it is a racist. LOL! Only in Javidestan (good neologism)!

HB: you rock!

"I'm smart enough to know I'm not as smart as you. "

My God, you people. How much further can you crawl up this  person. First of all, if he was not excused by people like you for his disgusting racist behavior which reeks of HATE, he would recognise what it is to be accountable for oneself. But all you do is suck up to this guy and give the impression he is some genius (actually there are a lot of people more intelligent than this guy on IC but do not brag) and deserves to be treated different to anyone else who is being reprimanded for antisocial behavior. That is why this guy behaves the way he does. He knows he'll get away with it!

And, being smart has many aspects. not just regurgitating text and praising ones own beliefs and ego, but accepting that there are differing opinions on life and the universe. And being caring and humble.

"I'm smart enough to  know I'm not as smart as you. "

You may be right on that one. He has people wrapped round his finger because some people like the so called "enigma" of BULLIES. Lets hope he writes another blog about "esgh" and the "feminine", after all he adores the females, so he MUST be a great person!  ... what a joke!

And JJ if I am flagged, I want it to be known this is my opinion of these people and I have a right to my opinion as an observer. I have not attacked or used profanities.

heureka rushan!

here's a gnostic moment: i guess javidestan is a cosmos.

we are all battling the forces of gravity of ic. attraction and repulsion; addiction and zuhd.

xvarnah, another area about which i know zilch is alchemy despite poring over jabirian texts and paul kraus/ripka/fahd/ullmann etc etc.

you see, the main ill of philology is although it involves reading a text in beautiful dead languages, checking manuscripts, commentaries, cross-references, learned articles, etc., yet no cells left for the content. a barren endeavour unless one gets aesthetically or emotionally involved in the texts.

this has been one of the rewards for me of joining ic. maybe i'll check sulfur, but i'll definitely be looking for blogs by you on these topics.

I am here and still standing -- and this is the way it's going

to be till the end when I finally decide I am finished with ya'll.

---

What do you mean by 'here', Nur? Here as in the Cosmos or here as in javidestan?

SULFUR

Is a component of the alchemical Work. Maybe HB can explain. No, I didn't forget about the Jews and Christians. They're not relevent. But the Zoroastrians are.

I Am that I Am. And who is going to stop me being That I Am? An insignificant liquid nothing like you or the even more pathetic bahaim organization you belong to? LOL! Look around you, on all attempts to stop me, single-handedly you've been outwitted and outclassed, EVERY TIME, and I am here and still standing -- and this is the way it's going to be till the end when I finally decide I am finished with ya'll. Makaru wa makaru'Llah wa Allahu Khayr'ul-Makerin!  ;-)

"The Zoroastrians despise you Baha'is as much as the Muslims do

You forgot the Jews and the Christians, speaker of the house!

Who despises who is the material of your empty head, an intrigue to a base soul, that is why u could never be what your little ego wants you to be.

 your NUR smells like SULFUR adamnima

ps Nurxxxxxxxx,

I just noticed you mentioned 'the Imam of one's own being' below. At some point when you stop fulminating at me and feel a bit less loathing, could you please read the poem in the link below which I wrote several years ago and which ends with this concept? Actually you are one of the only people here who could understand the poem. No doubt you will find it below your own knowledge and insights in the vocabulary and thought behind 'gnosis', but on the other hand I am not hate-filled like you. are. So probably I know something you don't.

And please don't sneer at me and the poem because of the introduction either. This is a magazine and I target the target audience. At that time that was the right level of discourse to use for the intro. Not that anyone understood the actual poem but I figured I'd give it a shot. Intellectually (I said intellectually) the level is  higher here now, and I would up the ante in the intro if I were to submit it again, which I won't.

//iranian.com/main/2008/leila-and-me-1

pps The other day I was re-reading The Thunder Perfect Mind. When you talk about gnosis you mean one which incorporates the sensual as well.  At least if I have understood your writings correctly here. So what about the gnosis of what I believe were the majority of schools of actual Gnosticism, which reject this world and which is what 'Thunder' states clearly at the end? How do you feel about this? If you decide to answer me, yes please do water it down a bit. I already told you, I'm smart enough to  know I'm not as smart as you.

Xrvanur,

Well, I said I wouldn't post anything here until at least tomorrow but things are calmer after the Uprising  anniversary than I expected them to be, so I will say some things to Xrvanur.

Nur, what are you trying to do? Test the waters to see how much it will take to provoke your old nemesis, the Chief Editor of the Daily Lobo, UNM, aka A-h, to block you again, and if he does, whether he will let you in under a new name for the fifth time? And also, Nur, stop telling us you want us to die, you know you don't.

Nur, I don't know why you said I want revenge on you for what happened last year. Just because you  called me a kike and told me I should take my lithium and ride my Hanukah Harry donkey after I found out you were using the name Zulfiqar without telling people it was you, and I said you should be ignored? As much as it may disappoint you since you like having your paranoia fed, I took no personal offense. If I had why would I have written you a long commentary on your poem translation a few weeks ago when you asked for input in that blog ? (Not that you thanked me for it, but I took no personal offense there either :o).

The truth is, Nur, I never take personal offense with you, because when you are not in the thrall of your addiction to Bahai-hating--which, btw, is just a way of still being a member of that 'cult', as you call it, because the Bahai still consume you, body and soul--and its concomitant hating of most people here because you have decided that iranian.com is part of the Bahai/Jewish/British/Rockefeller Foundation conspiracy to take over the world, your writings, especially those related to neo-Platonism, are brilliant luminescent jewels. 

So, no, rather than take personal offense, I keep hoping you will focus on where your genius really lies, as I told you last year. And that is why I do not think you should be kicked out. Or at least if you are, that you should be let back in at some point. (Which seems, btw, to have already happened, and at lightning speed at that). No, I don't think you should be banished, I think you should be trained. 

Nur, you can huff and puff all you like but you know who owns the house and deep inside you know damn well that neither breath nor lawsuit will blow it down. Give it up, Nur. You're too smart to be that stupid.  

You are probably one of the few people here who has heard of Henry Corbin, much less understands him. In a site where nothing is sacred except the secular, your writings on these kinds of things fill a deep void. And there are people who read them and care about them. Whereas your Bahai-hating addiction wins you no fans.The only impact it has is to confirm to people that all Bahai conspiracy theories are bullshit. And by extension that there is nothing true whatsoever about any of your criticisms of the internal workings of their organization. Which, btw, there is no organization in the world which has nothing in it to be criticized, but who here is going to  pa any attention to you about this purported Bahai Internet Agency of yours when you think Jahanshah and iranian.com--i.e. us-- are part of it? And especially when you are telling us you want us to die? I mean, honestly, Nur.

Nur, people here are very forgiving. Why don't you do what you do best and what really matters here which is this:

//iranian.com/main/blog/darius-kadivar/history-ideas-friedrich-nietzsche-hardship-zarathustra-triumph-will-bbc

and not this, which is stupid and counterproductive:

//iranian.com/main/blog/nur/iranian-com-sourcewatched

Gee

And here I was thinking that the Zoroastrian community was an Iranian religious minority and not a martian one like Waters seems to suggest. The Zoroastrians despise you Baha'is as much as the Muslims do, if not more, because they know what manner of lying scum you low-lives are! And this is why they talk to me and people like me, taa cheshme naa-beenaatoon koortar! So eat merde and die!

and

he is trying to stir Islamic sentiments and use Islam and moslems to his own end, since he knows non moslems wont give a hoot to his inflated ego. Infact he is right he is not a moslem they would not have tolerated a neurotic personality. So to keep his ego satisfied instead of leashing it he is doing free style one man one ego religion of his own. Yet because of the current situation of the Islamic government persecuting minorities he is trying to find a few naive moslems and win their sympathy and get some hate going. He is undermining the intelligent moslems oblivious of how apparent his puny attempts are. This ofcourse is when you got nothing else to lean on, ayahusca is not cutting it, psychoatices only exacerbate schitzophrenic symptoms and the fact that there are far more intelligent people out there and he would not even make it to the list contrary to his egos wishful thinking.

He is pushing the envelope on hate. 

And?

but Sufism is the mystical dimension of Islam.

And Vajrayana is the esoteric dimension of Mahayana Buddhism. What is your point, again? I am many things, and yet none of them. I am neither a Muslim, a Jew, a Christian, a Hindu, a Buddhist, a Zoroastrian,  nor a Bayani, or whatever else, but as a practicing gnostic Adept and esotericist I am closely allied to the core esotericism and gnosis of all of them, and because of this I am my own religion and the Prophet/Imam-of-my-own-Being. And if I worship anything external to myself, it is at the Eternal Temple of the Holy Body of the Divine Feminine, because I am a worshiper of Beauty (jamal parast) and an idolator  (bot parast) circumambulating the Ka'aba that is the Eternal Woman. In the literature of 'irfan (gnosis) in Persian,  esp. Hafez, if you want to characterize me by any designation at all as to what I really am, I am what you call a kharaabaatee!

Puny, cult-ridden, one-dimensional, regimented minds like yours, however, cannot comprehend such things! It is way over your head, and especially someone like Faryar's.

You are talking to someone born a Muslim

*Cough* Bullshit! I can spot a Baha'i-zaadeh from across oceans when I see one, and you are definitely one.

Now I defend the culture of Iranian Islam and Iranian Muslims because, as I have said before, this rich culture deserves to be protected and the common people associated with it deserve much better than to be pawns of either lunatic fundamentalists or cultural and political imperialists who wish to exploit them for their own selfish and nefarious ends. There are other reasons besides as to why I defend Iranian Islam and Iranian Muslims,  just I do with other Iranian minority (other than you wolves in sheeps clothing), but you would not understand because your mind is obviously RUHI-ized.

Now the rest of your transparent Baha'i-SOB story is  so silly it is not even worth the bandwidth it has taken up, let alone deserving a response. Go tell your leash-holders at the BIA now that I said they need better reps here than you. Not only have I demolished your credibility personally, but your continuation here has  also pulled the rug from under the feet of the other Bahaim also.

Haalaa boro kashketo besaab!

It is the type of rant I expected

but Sufism is the mystical dimension of Islam.  You are talking to someone born a Muslim so you are the dishonest one. In fact you have been an outright refender of all things Islam on this website, so cut the BS. You are not impartial at all. And ranting DEATH to IRI does not obsolve you of being a bigot.

As for your reckless name-calling (bahai) and slandering (alleging identities of people you cannot prove on the internet out of spite) , has tarnished your own credibility.  Why should anyone belive anthing you say, as you are driven by anger and spite? What you are saying is if someone is a bahai you cannot trust them - that is what IRI propogandists do. You have called them animals, you are  moron. Now go and open your own website of hate and all the people supporting you behind the scene on IC can clap your rants, and pretend they want change for better in Iran learning from the likes of you. This website is just like Iran.

The liar is all you and your BIA leash-holders

My point is not trying to defend any particular religion against another

Nonsense. You have a long record of unabashed apologetic defense of Bahaism - and specifically Haifan Bahaism - on this forum.

 but you are excusing your lying with attacking bahais. If so, be
objective.

What lying? I have meticulously documented evidence of every last attack and assertion I have made about this cult (not religion, but cult). Go ahead, argue with the evidence, if you can -- which you can't: //bahaicultfaq.blogspot.com/

What sout taqiyya? Lying in Islam: //www.islamreview.com/articles/lying.shtml

First, I am not a Muslim, so this argument doesn't apply to me. Second, your argument is a red herring. You want to justify the Baha'i justification for lying by exampling a similar contemporary and noxious Shi'ite Muslim practice (which is actually the master narrative of the Baha'i one to begin with) as if this makes it ok. Third, if you delve deeply into the origins of taqiyyah  (as Corbin, Madelung and Amir Ali Moezzi have done in their research) you would find that the source of this practice is about exercising the discipline of the arcane, that is, keeping the esoteric secrets of the Shi'ite initiation (since early Shi'ism under the Imams was basically an esoteric path of initiation into higher mysteries) from profane eyes, kind of like what Jesus says in Matthew 7:6 "cast ye not pearl before swine lest they trample them underfoot." This is the original basis for taqiyyah in Shi'ism. That it has become over time a tout court justification for lying under all circumstances, is another discussion. But Bahaism hasn't had the benefit of centuries of corruption over time. They began this way from the word go and only 140 some years ago!

It is also important to know that what Muslim activists say to spread
Islam may not always be the whole truth.

What no missionary prosletyzer of any creed ever says about their own creed is ever the truth. Period, full-stop! But what the hell does this have to do with the criminal malice of you Haifan Bahai cultists towards all ex-Bahais, apostates, schismatics and dissidents; or violating people's privacy and trying to dictate to non-Bahais who they can or cannot be friend's with or associate with? That said, the point is, you don't really have one because your Emperor has been shown time and again to have no clothes!

Rosie

I knew you won't be able to keep away!! Welcome back ;-}

VPK

With regards to lying in religions - are you impartial and fair?

My point is not trying to defend any particular religion against another, but you are excusing your lying with attacking bahais. If so, be objective. Does the religion you follow allow lying?

What sout taqiyya? Lying in Islam: //www.islamreview.com/articles/lying.shtml

Muslim leaders can use this loop-hole in their religion, to absolve them from any permanent commitment. It is also important to know that what Muslim activists say to spread Islam may not always be the whole truth.

Death to All!

Well, almost all.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJXRtXTkrEo

(sorry, I couldn't resist...)

Not death to Trees! Trees are sacred!

Death to you and your kind! You are producing too much Co2 anyway and are consuming too much precious resources. Croak already!!

oooooooooooooooooooh you naughty LADY!!!!

Anyway, ummmm DEATH TO .... TREES .... AND .... YOU KNOW ... WHATEVER.   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>goodnight.

*Yep*

That's exactly what we'll be doing at the end of all this - at your expense ;-)

...

lol

PS: you look much better as a woman.    ;)

Copping out of what?

Why should we tell you when and how we plan to lobotomize you? Just hang tight knowing it's coming, sooner than later.

Nah ...

that's copping out ... come on, you have a solicitor and she's had since last year to work on the case. I'd fire her if i was you, she seems either slow or cr*p.

Good

You'll know when it's scheduled when you are served the summons.