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The revolution but JM was frothing at the mouth for it to happen. Parham aren't you happy? You have your buddies Mollahs robbing the nation and you are safe outside. Now MK wants PMOI to take over. While he sit in his university lecturing people.

JM is truly an embarrassment to the whole of Iran. At least the members of it that I have seen on IC. Not one decent argument out of any of them.

VPK

And now he owes us something...

.. for nationalizing the oil! Hah!

Oh dear. No wonder there was a revolution. And no wonder it was led (and won) by the likes of the ones who took over...

Shazde

Do you even get tired of insulting people? Why not contribute by saying something meaningful. What did Mossadegh do that was so great? 

• Nationalized oil leading the the Anglo/American coup.
• Dissolve the parliament against the constitution.
• Poison the political atmosphere by rabble rousing.

He was a hot head who went against powers to strong for him. And was not savvy enough to hold on to power once he attained it.  He lacked the grace to give it up and let the Shah advance the nation. Spawn JM which then led to IRI.To this day JM is living in 1953. They refuse to move on to the 20th century much less 21st! Meanwhile they have found their new allies: PMOI. 

Thank God we don't have great men such as him today.

PS.

Whether he had epilepsy is irrelevant. It is his judgment which I question. Not his physical or nervous disability.

Round Two: Hamburger Anyone ? ...

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Mash Ghasem jaan

Mash Ghasem jaan,

Thank you for your contribution.

Best,

Masoud

Mirza this idiot is beneath attention

Dayi jan said to tell him to "Phuck Off," but I'm not sure if I could quote that in here? Me personally thinks he should "Phock Off" anyways.

Like it or not JM and Nehzat Azadi are the closet things we have to a professional core, an indigenous force, and the closet thing we have ever experienced as an independent nation, under Mosadegh's leadership. I agree with Mirza that: Dr. Mosadegh (RIP) despite all his  limitations  is a living giant compared to any of his generation.

Shazdeh jaan, sepaas gozaram

Shazdeh jaan,

Ye donya mamnoon.

Best,

Masoud

1. Dr. Mossadegh did not have epilepsy. He had a nervous condition that made him faint and cry. Some times had did not have any control over it. But apparently sometimes he was able to bring it on during some crisis.

2. I condemn the demeaning of anyone with any disability. Shame on nokar Britian.

MK

Epileptic or not ... Dr. Mosaddegh was 100 times the man ...

... that a piece of crap Anglo lover can ever be.

Also, it is demeaning to make fun of people's disability - you idiot.

VPK is right

VPK and I may have differences over certain political issues (like Iran should follow the British political model) but on the topic of Dr Epileptic-ol-saltaneh (adopted from Siavash) we are agreeable.

Dear Parham , "Shahollahis" is Oxymoron term

"Why is it that Islamists and shahollahis always end up being different sides of the same coin?" Parham

Shahoolahis is contradictory word such as saying snowy hot summer. Either it is snowy or it is hot summer. it is paradox to mix these 2 words.

Behind SHAH, there is over 5000 years Persian history and Persian Empire.

Behind ALLAH there is nomad tribe of bare feet desert Arabs.

These 2 words can't get mixed together my friend. I believe anyone who mix these 2 words (knowingly or unknowingly) is Khaen to Iran history.

"Patriatic people" is correct lable for those who respect Iran rich history which has been intimated with Padeshahi or monarchy. So dear Parham, either you like it or dislike it, you're carryin over 5000 history of Shahanshahi on your shoulder as long as you are alive.

Forget Dr. Epileptic and his mongolian Qajar dynasty, especially his opium addict uncle known as Mozafare-din-shah.

Sincerely,

Siavash

(this is my real name)

Anyone who

dares question the orthodoxy on Mossadegh becomes "irrational". I already said that Shah was probably involved in the assassination of Razm Ara. I have also provided reasons for my points and assertion; waste of time.

Mossadegh "Good"; Shah "Evil" alright now MK & Parham are happy. I have had enough of this pointless thread. No more posts on this one. JM betrayed Iran once. The future is not going to be up to them so go on and debate.

Thanks

Bye

VPK.

Parham jaan

Parham jaan,

You are right.  I went back and corrected my error.

Thank you.

Masoud

You mean he ordered the assassination of...

... Razmara, not Tahmassebi. Of course Tahmassebi's execution came later...

And my pleasure!

Roozbeh jaan

Roozbeh jaan,

1. This debate is about actual historical truth about who assassinated Gen. Razmara and who set Tahmasebi free. We have to be honest. Unfortunately, VPK and Anglophile are not honest.

2. VPK has been writing absolute nonsense and irrational garbage about my position on the PMOI. It is amazing. VPK should stop writing irrational garbage. Basic intellectual honest is necessary.

The above issues are NOT personal. They are about basic facts.

Highest regards,

Masoud

R2-D2 jaan and Parham jaan

Dear R2-D2,

My bad. When I have time, I will write more on the subject. When I write something, I like to first do the research and then write something which our readers would benefit.

Best regards,

Masoud

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Dear Parham,

You are right. Anglophile has been proven wrong. He uses sources from the hard-line fundamentalists. I use sources from scholarly works, and from pro-democracy sources which they use primary sources. Anglophile lacks intellectual honesty. He is nokar of British colonialism and wishes for Iran to have been slave to Britain.

You are also right about VPK. VPK made a false assertion. He did not provide any document. We provided documents that show that Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi ordered the assassination of Gen. Razmara. That Majles under Kashani who was cooperating with the Shah at that time passes a bill in Majles releasing Tahmasebi. That Mossadegh opposed the bill releasing Tahmasebi. That the Shah supported the bill releasing Tahmasebi.

Instead of thanking us for correcting his error of fact, VKP writes irrational and illogical stuff.

Even worse, he writes absolute irrational garbage about my and JM position on PMOI. In this blog, VPK has written many many irrational garbage that has no relationship to reality. It is amazing.

I thank you so very much for all your contributions my friend.

Best regards,

Masoud

Roozbeh

I have been advocating a united front for some time. However I have a few reservations:

• When MK started talking about PMOI that got me worried. If that is where JM is going count me out. No way I would support the "democratic" opposition!
• MK does sound like a reasonable man. However Parham does not. Anyone who takes joy in "rubbing people's nose" is not my kind of guy.

VPK

...

Ghorboone cherchil beri.

"correct sources"!!

Don't make me go LOL again Parham.

btw, why can't you Iranian boys in the US write some correct English:

It's ARSE silly not ASS  (LoL again).

My friend Dr. Kazemzadeh...

.. gives correct sources.
You however, gave us sources from the Islamic Republic!

And "LOL" my sweet behind.

My friend Dr. Kazemzadeh...

... gives you correct sources.
You gave us sources of the Islamic Republic!
And "LOL" my a$$. : )

I think that both Mossadegh and Shah would have prefered...

For our friends Masoud, Parham, VPK and anglophile to shake hands and unite in a National liberation Front (any similarities to an existing or otherwise political organisation is purely co incidental), exposing and fighting the islamist regime. 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Because you are getting a little nervous Parham

LOL

Learn a little from your friend Dr Kazemzadeh. At least he gives me the same type of sources I give him. (more LOL).

I have no problem with "dom-e roobah"

It has many uses but can't see it being used as a historic source LOL

And I have no idea...

.. why that posted twice!

anglophile

Yes, he is one reliable source. Out of many I rely on.
You've got a problem with that?

anglophile

Yes, he is one reliable source. Out of many I rely on.
You've got a problem with that?

"The improvements"...

... would have been there --and in a sane fashion, not in an insane fashion like a despot does it-- had there been a democratic system. The people would probably have caught up with the rest of the world by now.

It was because he tried to do things by himself --putting himself upfront first-- that we got here.

Khoda-Shah-Mihan, remember that?

Funny you should say that Parham LOL

"Be gorbe (/roobah) goftan shahedet kie? Goft domam"

for someone whose father is a reliable historic source!!!!

Like I said...

... "Kafar hame ra ze kishe khish pendarad".

Funny this should come from the clan that actually made the betrayal. Haghighat talkhe doostan.

Roo ke nist... All of this from people who when push came to shove, ran away instead of staying and fighting, and are now only barking from the other side of the world, leaving the poor people who stayed behind to struggle by themselves...

With fake names and pictures when it comes to this site too... : )

Again, the only ones you're fooling are yourselves. If only you could see that!

His own benefit!

So all the improvements in Iran were for Shah's benefit. I agree because Shah considered building Iran as a his benefitl. He loved his nation and the good of Iran was his good; you are right; I agree with you for once.

As for the so called money he "stole" I have heard his family has 60 million. That is peanuts for a mid level banking or Wall Street bonus. By the way I am not a Monarchist but I give credit where it is due. And Shah deserves a lot of it.

You have not rubbed my nose into anything although I do sense a sadistic trend. I am happy with my life it is the Iranians back home I am worried about. Shah was a realist and knew how to deal with powers bigger than himself. Until the idiot Carter came along and ruined it all for both America and Iran. Thankfully Americans figured it out and booted him to go build hovels. Too bad the damage was already done. In time Iran will recover no thanks to JM or their new allies PMOI.