I can tolerate diversity but not, injustice

Jamshid !!!

If there was one guy here on this site whom I could say made absolute sense almost all the time and in every blog , it was you pal .

I am with you %1000

Cheers patriot!!!

Ebi , thx for the poem , I dont hate Hafiz & actualy enjoy a couple of dozen of his poems...It,s all about The fruites of his labour pal & where it went. not the man..cheers pal!!!

You know what? I love samsam and I want his ID back.

But I also know how iranian.com works. Controversy helps this site. This happens at least once per month. At least! 

There's never been free speech. It's been controlled. Always. Please bring samsam1111111111111111 back! Please! 

To get rosie off my back, i'll say this. In principle, let me be honest and clear, I agree with a free and happy Iran. I've told sammy that. But he has rejected me constantly and called me names and that's ok. 

BUT this ID block is just fascinating. I wonder what JJ will do when he wakes up from his nap. 

I wish , it was once

but you folks haven,t been on the receiving end of a despitefull person who harrass you on every blog annonymously , delete tens and tens of your comments just to piss you off ,  mimick you & go even after others who side with you on issues , and when you complain , delete your comment...

This site prior to the addition of this person was nothing like this. Yes we had heated argument and others views used to get more coverage but never personal agenda and hate to stalk and cyber torture a few bloggers who dont think like her...this gang mentality on this site is in large part thanks to her & juvenile selfish games in alienating a few and "Yar girii , adding members" .

I dont mind some one opposing my views or to be honest calling me names or even throw profanities at me as long as she has one face and doesn,t have her finger on the red button too .

lots of folks have noticed a few of the games at some times but prefer to be silent not to fall under wrath and bad spell of "kineh shotori" az my good friend Pope said once...

Pope Pal!! You have guts & I appreciate that in this day and age

Completely unacceptable

Samsam, it is completely unacceptable, unethical and against every principle of freedom of speech to block your user id for having expressed your opinion. One may disagree with your statements, but blocking your id is an entirely different thing which raises many questions.

I am glad that you are back under another id and speaking up. As I have told you before, there are those who might not like this site, nor necessarily agree with Mr. Javid's views, yet they feel compelled to contribute only as a means of countering the various forms of IRI misinformation campaign heaveily present in this site.

To Mr Jahanshah Javid:

You and your admin have every right to block an id. The private site is owned by you after all. But you do not have the right to mislead people. 

It is misleading to choose "Nothing is sacred" as a motto in order to gain people's trust and draw visitors and contributors into this site, only to quitely and selectively violate that same motto when time suits it.

This act could rightfully be considered by some people as unethical, at the very least.

Solutions: Either change the site motto as not to raise any expectations among people, or stand by it. I recommend the latter.

Samsam Jaan!!

 صمصام جان ببخش که شاعر بقول خودت " امتی" است !!

برگ سبزی است تحفه درویش :

حافظ

یوسف گمگشته بازآید به کنعان غم مخور

کلبه احزان شود روزی گلستان غم مخور

ای دل غمدیده حالت به شود دل بد مکن

وین سر شوریده بازآید به سامان غم مخور

گر بهار عمر باشد باز بر تخت چمن

چتر گل در سر کشی ای مرغ خوشخوان غم مخور

دور گردون گر دو روزی بر مراد ما نرفت

دایما یک سان نباشد حال دوران غم مخور

هان مشو نومید چون واقف نه‌ای از سر غیب

باشد اندر پرده بازی‌های پنهان غم مخور

ای دل ار سیل فنا بنیاد هستی برکند

چون تو را نوح است کشتیبان ز طوفان غم مخور

در بیابان گر به شوق کعبه خواهی زد قدم

سرزنش‌ها گر کند خار مغیلان غم مخور

گر چه منزل بس خطرناک است و مقصد بس بعید

هیچ راهی نیست کان را نیست پایان غم مخور

حال ما در فرقت جانان و ابرام رقیب

جمله می‌داند خدای حال گردان غم مخور

حافظا در کنج فقر و خلوت شب‌های تار

تا بود وردت دعا و درس قرآن غم مخور



Ebi aka Haaji

A few points: /Sam, Marge

As I recall, Sam was at first someone who posted cultural articles on ancient Persia. He was very civi always. He had no reason not to be as his blogs were neutral.

When the Gaza thing exploded many people exploded with it. Sam's Ommati tyrades were part of a general phenomenon. He came out in a blog he wrote for the Gazans despite the IRI connection and his I believe fairly neutral?? attitude toward Israel. He was talking about people he felt supported IRI, not Arabs. It may have sounded that way but I don't think that's what he meant.

In this process he was repeatedly deleted by the same moderator, one who's been complained about by many others. He lost it a bit perhaps but no more than many others on the site. So there was a vicious circle,the angrier he got the angrier she got. I can't imagine how that justifies blocking. But Sam, did you say you reposted five times? I missed that one.

Marge: during one of the worst most vicious arguments here you told Kadivar Fuck You. Everyone knew he was already going off. I think you wanted him to go off more. You're highly incendiary and on my current blog on moderation you keep saying the site thrives on conflict. And to throw fuel into the fire that way proves it. And there has to be a limit and to make an explosive situation like that more explosive is the limit. Basically your argument througout this discussionis is that this website not only is but should be incendiary.  It's an unusual point of view.

And finally just as an aside, you said on my concurrent thread that you are Ian angry Communist (within a certain context). Communism is a system which insists on obedience to authority and specific dogmas and placing the collective interest before the individual. It doesn't want an incendiary collective but an unusually cooperative one...that's all I wanted to mention about it.

No Ebi it's NOT a misunderstanding.

It's no misunderstanding at all. And although you say you hope it is, I think your hope is unrealistic at best.

What?

My avatar is changed and I don't know yet?

I'd asked JJ to change the picture, but I still see my old picture (the blue one) on my posts. 

I believe that I must reboot my browser now.......

Thanks for letting me know , ThePope

Samsam jan

I remember it now, it is exactly what I had read yesterday on that blog. But I also remember having seen JJ's name somewhere. Nevertheless, no it is not insulting, nor using profanity.......etc

But it could be (please do consider my words as friendly as I'm sure you consdier me a friend) I just repeat "It Could Be" considered as a "personal attack"

Why? because even if you did not name that person, but just some posts below, her name was came up and she was in a heated argument with Rosie, to whom you addressed your post.

Honestly, I don't know why your post has been deleted. But the fact that it has been deleted, and you insisted to put it again (forgive me please my friend) I call this action, very childish.

I mean, what's the point of re-posting it? Ok, say at least you re-post it twice to let the people the time to read your point, but 5 times???

What I see here, is just a power struggle. A battle of power between you and the moderator or "the publisher himself" who wanted to show you "who is the boss here :-))"

Sorry if i don't use the appropriate words here, my English is insufficient.

As I told you, I don't see the reason why your post has been deleted for the First Time, but I could understand why your user has been blocked after having insisted to post 5 times the same deleted comment.

Cheer my friend. I really value you as a true nationalist and you are one of the most (a very few ones) honest person in this site.

I admire your great honesty and sincerity and your love of your country. 

Hope thing will come back to normal (what's normal after all??) soon as I wish to see my dear cheerful samsam being back here and post nice stories about his childhood and his Bakhtiari origin!

جورج اورول - قلعه حیوانات

کلیه حیوانات در این جنگل برابرند.....ولی «بعضی» ها کمی برابر ترند

این سایت جی جی هست و هر وقت که بخواد میتونه هر جور که بخواد سایتش رو بگردونه.....حتی درشو ببنده بدون اینکه صنار به ما بدهکار باشه و........ اینه که هست!
ولی اون جمله بالا «هیچ چیز از تیر رس دور نیست یا هیچ چیز قداست نداره» این اواخر زیاد با روش سایت مطابقت نمیکنه، و متأسفانه روز بروز هم بد تر میشه.
ولی............ من هم مثل بقیه یک ویزیتور هستم، «عضو» نیستم، حق عضویت هم دخیل نیست این وسط، ولی خیلی حیفه که محل برخورد های شخصی بشه.

نمونه ای مثل «مشاعره» با بیشتر از هشتصد کامنت نشون میده که راههای زیادی هست که ترافیک ایجاد کنه! من نمیگم کار و زندگی و مسائل دیگه رو ول کنیم و فقط مشاعره کنیم، اینجاست که  جی جی و بقیه «ما» باید کاری کنیم! با خلق مطالب خواندنی و با ارزش، با کامنت بدون تعصب، بدون بهم پریدن، و اینکه ...........اگر نمیتونیم چیز بدرد بخوری بنویسیم « بخونیم» و لذت ببریم!

من تا همینجا بیشتر عقلم نمیرسه، میتونین کمک کنین.

Nicely said Ebi jaan...

Hope it's all a misunderstanding (which probably is ;-) & hope to see Sam with his old avatar soon...

BTW, I don't recall any "hate Islam" comment by Samsam1111...

ps   Souri khaanoom, avatar-e jadid mobarak. (et encore bonne fete!)  

I'm on your side! Always was. Now let's take action. Fast.

1. Go to www.petitiononline.com

2. Start a petition to stand up to these Ommati bastards.

3. Post the link and let the Persian Zionist wrath be felt by JJ and his Arab Hijackers. 

My dear Souri

Would you pls find the profanity or insult in the comment that I posted, I kept a copy of it and others have seen it , here ;

Re, all comments

Zion ; Thank you & as always I know I could rely on free thinkers such as you to speak their mind when it,s time to speak.

Ignorance in blue ; You just proved me right one more time about your senseless juvenile biased idiocy . I am the one who goes to Amil Imani blog and preach him on leaving Islam alone since it,s the private religions of millions & told him and many others that anti Islam approach is wrong and not called for . To call a spiritual person an Islam hater as you have done before shows the limit of your ignorant and juvenile mind .

Ebi jaan ; As always I am humbled having a  gentleman & a class act as a cyber friend like you . I may have many opposing views vs yours but have witnessed in you the impartiality & civility that should be the motto of many readers on this site . I thank you for the comment .

friend AI ; thank you , I,m much obliged for the support.

lol

Got that Sam? You are like a child and you should listen to your elders, evidently people in charge here consider themselves your guardians. Hmmm... now that I think of it, that is also a way to interpret the guardianship of the jurisprudent. Isn't it wonderful that this website is such a micro-example of the system governing the Iranian people?

Samsam jaan

Please don't get me worng. I am not against you dear. Hope you believe in my sincerity and impartiality.

I had observed your comment popped up on the thread a few times last night and have been deleted. You finally came to say that your post has been deleted 5 times and you don't care, because you will always post it over and over.

Am I correct? Or I m confused about the reason your user Id being blocked cause of your persistence to post a comment which was judged offensive?

Now, I don't debate on the content of your post here. I am just pointing out your "action". 

If this repetition of posting same comment which has been deleted 5 times, is the reason ,I believe this by itself is a valid reason for a user id being blocked or frizzed, at least for a while.

If there's another reason and I am not aware of it, please enlighten me, my friend.

To resume my point: If you say to your daughter not to say bad words, and she repeat saying same bad words, again and again, what would you do?

I will give my child a time out, alone in his room to think over his action.

Respectfully,

Sam We Are With YOU!

And we feel your pain! This supression of speech only makes us stronger!

Samsam Jaan!!

I hope that's all a misunderstanding & we see you soon again with your "Cyrus The great" avatar.

cheers

Ebi aka Haaji

We hear you man

Dear Sam, it is unacceptable. That is why it is great that you are speaking up about it. We are with you in this.