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Anonymousmoi

Here are two Israeli sites for you. one if the Foreign Ministry and the other is IDF. where they are also revealing for the first time the type of capabilities used in Gaza during the last conflict in Gaza.

//www.mfa.gov.il/mfa

//dover.idf.il/IDF/English/

In regards to persian food. We used to eat them at home. However after we left, we ate the Israeli foods more then the Iranian ones.

Truth and logic

stopped being applicable ever since the IRI came into existence and created this subculture of apologists.

Israel shooting first? They can't shoot first.

Through their proxies (Hamas and Hezbollah), the IRI initiated the aggression. Even though the IRI outsourced the job to their subcontractors, it is they who fired the first shot.

Did the IRI pull the trigger? No, they simply supplied the weapons and the ammunition and put it in the hands of those who are all to happy to do the IRI's bidding. The IRI's role as a passive beligerent rather than an active one does not absolve them of one iota of responsibility or accountability.

Zion and Farhad would be

Zion and Farhad would be perfect couple.

who will go to the wedding?

Kashani versus Israilis/pro Israelis (to Irandokht)

Irandokht, when interacting with Israelis/Pro Israelis be it DW, AI, Mazloom, Bijan, ...., and even Zion, I see emotions, I see concern (sometime valid, sometime paranoia), I see various levels of sincerity, ......, I see ourselves, I see our own weakness and strengths ..., I see HUMANS and in my case I see relatives (fAmile dour).
When debating with Kashani, or reading his comments and "analysis" I see a propaganda machine, a little pathetic customized machine that is powered by pure high octane hatred, ..., I see a MACHINE that has exchanged its human part for fuel.

Dear Farhad

The principle is still applicable to the regime in Iran. The Iranian regime has been pulling the trigger, killing Israelis and Westerners for a long time. Every rocket thrown on Israel by Hizballah or Hamas is a de facto act of aggression against Israel by the regime in Tehran. Israel and the West have been controlling the situation by not retaliating back so far. This might have given the impression to certain mouth pieces of the regime that IRI is all innocent and all there is are the "rhetorics" of a little man against Holocaust, but that is only a sign of lack of comprehension or lack of honesty or what actually is teh most probable, both.

Zion

Mehdi Mazloom

I have a question and it's not related to this article. I like to learn more about Isreal and Israeli culture. I hope you don't mind. Is it true that 1 out of 6 Israeli is Iranian Jew.
And it looks like you guys cook the same Persian food like ghoemeh sabzi, albaloo polo, bamieh, even salad shirazi. I went to the website of an Israeli lady who owns a restaurant and she is a very observant Jew and I found few Persian food listed there; and I thought that was cool.
From what I have seen on TV, of course, it looks like Israel is very much like Iran before the revolution, very vibrant and fun.

what happened to truth and logic?

Dear Farhad

You are saying that Saddam followed the Bush doctorine too? The war didn't start with Saddam's aggression? Are you challenging the facts?

I just don't understand you! I get it that you hate IRI but does this hate have to go so far to actually cheer on the aggressors of this world? 

Are you giving green light to Israel for shooting first? based on what? some little man's araajeef about the holocaust should provoke bombing? 

I am so disappointed in your lopsided hate-driven lack of logic. We're talking innocent Iranian lives that would be lost, a devastation and destruction that would take generations to repair, does that even matter to you anymore? 

IRANdokht

If any war were to start

If any war were to start between Iran and Israel, even if Israel fires the first shot, there is no doubt that IRI is responsible for obvious reasons. The Armageddon-waiting war-mongering IRI regime is doing the same thing they did to Saddam, and that’s provoke him. Just like they provoked Saddam by claiming they want to “export the Islamic revolution to the holy shite land of Iraq”, they have provoked Israel by irrationality bashing it, supporting anti Israeli groups and calling for its annihilation.

The traditional definition of “the party who fired the first shots is the responsible party” is no longer valid or realistic in today’s world, sometimes the first who fired shots is responsible, but not in this case. What should Israel do in face of this blind IRI aggression?

Till we have IRI in power, our country will never be immune from wars and destruction.

artificial - thanks

Akh-shav Anakhnu maski-mim. (in Hebrew "now we agree" ) Yeah, I the falafel boy. btw. I call the taarof, tarbiyate' ghome' sabzi.

(I use the "-" character to make it easier to read the non-english words. Hope it helps.) 

Dear Mehdi

I understand that you are not an Iranian national. I consider myself more American than Iranian as well because of the long time I have been out of the country. However, I still love my persian culture, music, food and the people. OK- I don't care for that taroaf stuff either- I see it with my parents and their freinds as well. Nothing new. I was just trying to explain that the conspiracy theories about your background was false because of I see your use of Farsi in my own Israeli side of the family.

Dear Hamshari, Anony7, I guess its more Falafel with him than chelow. You are correct:)))))

Artificial (theory of Mehdi is 100% Iranain).

Thanks for trying to speak on my behalf. Although I don't see any shame to be associated with ancient Iran, and the farsi cultural. Considering the long decades since I have not been in Iran, during which I stayed away from the Iranian cultural. am afraid, I am not an Iranian national, nor do I aspire to be.

As I had written earlier. Unfortunately I have not had pleasant experiences with Iranians in my area. The more difficult of which, like you, they were thinking that, I am khode'-muniyam. Then play their elaborate game of taaroff, with its nonsense toh be-maan eh-teram bedeh, which I do not practice. However I have seen it played out among Iranians themselves.

they spend so much time and precious good will playing the game of who has a bigger tail, ki dom-behesh bo-zorg-tarreh?. Who should bow to whom. Or you have to be so....... carefulenot only what you say around them, but how you say it too. Who has time for this ditribe?

Unfortunately Now, I am forced to keep my distance and speak very little farsi with them and made sure they know I am not khode-moniyam with them. It is sad, but I found no other way to mitigate the bad reputation most Iranians have.

falafel over chelowkabab? (to Artificial Intelligence)

Hamshahri, you have some valid points, but how can you say Mazloom is %100 Iranian when he implies that he prefers falafel over chelowkabab!?

..... just kidding hamshahri. Personally I look at these funny exchanges very positively,....., as you now I respect many of Israeli/pro-Israeli posters, DW I respect immensely.
--best hamshahri-e azeez

Mehdi is 100% Iranian

I have many family members living in Israel who moved there in their teens. They talk and write farsi similar to Mazloom. He writes like he would speak it with his hebrew acccent. For example "ve" in hebrew has the same meaning as "va" in farsi. 

As to the name Mehrnaz, this is not a popular name such as Mahnaz and I would not know if its masculine or feminine either since I left Iran when I was 9 years old. I can read street level farsi but I can not read any of the news paper articles because they are written in such a formal and esoteric manner. I can't even understand the farsi news because they use so many big words (not street level written like the NY times that a 10 year old can read and understand). Farsi is not an easy language.

For me, the same goes with hebrew. I lived in Israel for almost two years (29 years ago) and can talk to anyone in the street with no problem for hours but I can not understand hebrew news channels and I can not read a hebrew newspaper. 

Iranians are to conspiracy theory minded.  Its in our genes I guess.

As daijan Napoleone would say: "Kareh engelis hahs"

Zion's parrots learned bad farsi!

Zion, your parrots learned bad, albeit very funny Farsi!
I have never laughed so hard in a single day!
.... as I have said many times, I appreciate you guys despite our political disagreements. Hopefully through these funny moments and events we slowly soften the rough relation between us .... and ultimately our countries.
BTW, Mazloom_jAn, I am preparing a kebabi nakobideh for Zion while you are waiting for our next customer.

eyes wide shut...

this is a surreal thread..so many pro zion professional bloggers..enjoy the gathering boys and gals-but play safe!!

Exactly Kaveh

I agree, especially about the impossibility to underestimate that level of intelligence! lol.

There is also the issue of censorship you know. Beside consistently parroting the IRI line in foreign policy and its typical line of conspiracy theories against anyone it disagrees with, what the two share is also a clear love of power that shows itself in censorship. Sometimes it really gets funny, doing something only a moderator can do, like changing a comment once it has been replied to, while having been lying about it. The moment this was noticed, all comments before and after vanish and any mention of it gets deleted too! Funny!

[This comment also might get vanished soon, so I suggest you read it fast! 10, 9, 8... ]

Zion

Thank you Irandokht and Anonymous 7

for your intelligence and integrity. It is so telling the way these people who have been caught in corner lying, for the lack of better words, resort to insult, swearing!!

Great job Mehdi!

That was an amazing rebuttal. LOL. You sure exposed certain people as the .... that they are! No wonder they come back with the usual conspiracy theories to save face, as do all moral and intellectual bankrupts do.
Can't stop[ laughing Mehdi. Well done!

Zion

IRANdokht

The problem is not anyone underestimating YOUR intelligence.

The problem is people like you who adhere to the belief that you are superior to others, be it intellectually, morally, ethically, politically, or culturally. Your comments about others concerning things such as one's command of language, time spent in Iran, their personal views or life experiences paint you in an extremely narrow-minded, judgmental and elitist light, all while you continually try and sell yourself as this open-minded bleeding heart liberal whose soul overflows with tolerance.

It is you who is underestimating the intelligence of others.

It's one thing to be opinionated. So am I, and so are many other people who post on this site. It's keeps this site from becoming stale or dull. But you have shown zero respect for anyone who does not drop to their knees and parrot everything you say and believe everything you believe. I have seen you go from someone who was pleasant, who despite the occasional difference of opinion remained relatively good-natured towards others, to this arrogant, bitter, dare I say, b**chy little shrew who thinks her word must be the final word on a given subject, because, among other things: you were born in Iran, you lived in Iran, you speak the language so perfectly, you endured difficulties while living in Iran after the revolution, you struggled here as you have struggled there, you believe in "x", therefore those who believe in "y" are fundamentally flawed, and on and on and on.

How many more people do you want to irreversibly piss off with your inflated sense of superiority?

You're not any more Iranian than anyone else who is Iranian. None of your linguistic and/or literary capabilities, your upbringing, or your life experiences entitles you to any special or separate measure of recognition than someone whose experiences do not parallel or mimic yours. For as much as you huff and puff about these "qualities" you possess that makes you the standard bearer of what makes you an Iranian and everyone else lesser people, there are Iranians who possess qualities far greater than yours, yet they don't make concerted efforts to point it out and bring it to everyone's attention. They have class.

I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. Indeed there are others, some of whom you have already alienated completely. Maybe they'll add their two cents, maybe they won't. I'm not compelling anyone to do so.

mediocre translator Mazloom?

So Mazloom, do you know any farsi or it is all cut and paste using some kind of mediocre translator?
Mazloom_jAn, Is it all gimmicks?
As we say in Persian: Esraili bazi dar overdei? :)

mehrnaz Get of your horse, will you.

Here are the sequence of events.

1. Under the title

//iranian.com/main/news/2009/01/24/anothe...

2. If you click on that title, it will take you to this site:

//vimeo.com/2918060

Where an Iranian so-called scholar SPEAKS his own interpretation about harry Potter and Zionism. It is not hard to understand what this idiot says.

3. Here is the site where the farsi text on this subject is posted. Now how hard is it to copy the text and paste here here? 

khoshkell khanom. You are out of control with your conspiracy theory.  . basse' digge. tamoom shod.

Mehrnaz jan

You are right on the mark. The problem is not whether or not someone speaks Farsi, it's when they underestimate our intelligence. They pretend they speak the language, or their ancestors owned property in Iran and therefore they're entitled to put us down and probably take over our land too (familiar pattern?)...

The problem is not how they have no clue, but I have an issue with people who pretend that "Akhmag" and "aghaha" and leez mikonan are actually in "farsi" and make excuses as how they, being from Tehran, cannot understand when someone writes in "shirazi or esfehani" dialect!!!
The problem is when someone doesn't know how transparent they are and underestimate our intelligence by persisting and repeating lies.

The problem is when people who are not from Iran, do not speak the language, do not have any ties with Iranians, and do not have any positive thing to say about Iran and Iranians pretend this is not their "job" and spend more than 12 hours a day reading and commenting on an Iranian website!or maybe as you said it looks like the same person's on all day and night...(Mazloon not being the only case)

The problem is also when people pretend they are against their propaganda but fight and defend them when it's deemed necessary.

IRANdokht

Anonym7 and MazloomS

I have NO PROBLEM with Israelis and non-Farsi speakers, or bad-Farsi speakers to contribute to this site, as a matter of fact, I welcome it, as I have said repeatedly in the past. What I do take issue with is FAKING and using a MASK of an individual to hide a propaganda machine.

MazloomS has so far not responded to my query about Khandaniha, now he says someone else had given it to him to "cut and paste"!!! He says: "In ragrds to the KHANDIANIAN. on the Internet, it is not hard to copy-n-paste in any language. You don't need to know the language to do that". Oh well, so finally he says he posted something he did not understand!!! given to him by someone else!!!

He says on that blog entry, "I scratched my head, searched and looked around - hit-chi na-bood, nada, couldn't find anything. Finally I decided to go to my Iranians sources from which the Well of knowledge, bastion of "truth" and wisdom can be found. Sure enough,the sources did not disappoint a Zionist boy like me". "that is where I found the answer". If you go the link and listen to it, Mazloom who admits his Farsi is "rudimentary", would not have understood the fast and non-rudimentary talk in Farsi either.

Mehrnaz - I will be dumn, AGAIN

Once again. you are communicating with one identity, and not more. In ragrds to the KHANDIANIAN. on the Internet, it is not hard to copy-n-paste in any language. You don't need to know the language to do that. Other posters who write me in Hebrew, and no way one would know if they speak it or just got the translation from English.

Cool your heel khanom. On the above Persian post, I just read the english summary on the subject and thought, it might be interesting to Iranains here to read.copied it and posted here. Period.

Now, can we get back to the pollow kesh-mesh?. 

regarding the kebabi in Israel! (to Mehrnaz)

Mehrnaz says: "So my dear friends you are not talking to A PERSON. So for those entertaining opening up a kebabi with MazloomS, bear that in mind how many partners will cheat you at once!!!"

Mehrnaz khanoom, I have been arguing and debating with Mazloom much longer than you think. Even when he was not a registered user!
I very well know that his farsi is not perfect and I could care less, I am glad that "MazloomS" as you call them, are here, they have called me IRI agent, gotten mad at me countless number of times but I am fine ... the fact that they get so sentimental and emotional just reinforces my belief that we have a lot in common.
As for the kebabi, you don't need to worry, I grew up in Esfahan, a mixed city, ...., I even worked for a Jewish owned company in my late teens and early twenties ... I am a bad Esvani (Esfahani), you had better warm Mazloom, so he doesn't get cheated by me!
.... take it easy Mehrnaz khanoom, and don't be so uptight! moltafeti?

Aghaha-ye Irandokht VE xerxes, Mazloom is not one person!!

Irandokht va Xerxes-e aziz,

MazloomS are more than one person!! Some of whom read "KHANDANIAH" !!! and some of whom just have a "RUDIMENTARY" knowledge of Farsi!!!

He tells me in this exchange (//iranian.com/main/2009/feb/voting-heart), where I questioned him on his dubious identities:
"Mehrnaz - Evidence?.
by Mehdi Mazloom on Sat Feb 14, 2009 05:24 PM PST": "In regards to my farsi. I already wrote. YES I do speak rudimentary farsi. My read & write is not good at all".

HOWEVER, previously in his blog entitled "Another breakthrough
achievement for Iranian Scholars" he refers to a Farsi article in KHANDANIHA, which indicates very good knowledge of Farsi indeed!!! //iranian.com/main/news/2009/01/24/another-br...

BUT BUT BUT here in"Pro-Israel Media
bloggers join Media War" thread, addressing myself and SMHB he betrays a RUDIMENTARY Farsi (although has a good knowledge of obscene language an example of which can be viewed on this thread //iranian.com/main/2009/feb/voting-heart
"by Mehdi Mazloom on Fri Jan 30, 2009 07:25 PM PST
": "aghaha ye Mehrnaz ve smhb".!!!

This 'Mazloom' did not know Mehrnaz was not an
 Agha!!!!, it did not know that agha did not become plural with 'ha' but
 with 'yaan', and it did not know 'and' is 'va' not 've'!!!! The office must have been short of staff with all the different blogs and things to see to and mistakes do happen under pressure!

So my dear friends you are not talking to A PERSON. So for those entertaining opening up a kebabi with MazloomS, bear that in mind how many partners will cheat you at once!!!

Anonym7 - Testing

ru-e' chash-mem. Amah man aaddad kartam bah-humus-e fallafel. Agar shomah mi-khaid sa-reh ghor-me' sabzi harf be-zanin. Bande hazram.

chan-dah az raffi-gha-toon maha ra khe-jallat midan.  inn khoob nist

Ahmed

You obviously have no idea of the recent history of Israel and just
look at Hamas and Hizbolla as terrorists as you have been listening to
your own media. They came after The Stern, Hagana and otherZionist
gangs. They are the effect not the cause.

Those "zionist" gangs have been gone for more than 50 years, Ahmed. If you want peace, get rid of your terrorists. There will never be peace with Arabs, as long as Jihadis give themselves permission to murder the innocent anywhere in the world, just because they are anbgry about something. Or just because they want something.

I'm not seriously suggesting you can accomplish anything in that regard. I'm just pointing out it seems a bit silly to try to talk about pecae, while at the same time millions of Arabs are hell bent on jihad.

If you plant the seed of tomato, don't be surprised to get tomatoes.
I have no power to stop anybody from seeking revenge especially if they
have no recourse to justice.

Old story. Old excuse. And tell me how Libyans need to get "revenge" against Israel? How does that make sense? What did Israel ever do to Libya? Or Saudi Arabia?

History tells us millions of Jews came into Palestine and drove the
people of that land by force. Today Israel remains the only country in
the world with no defined borders. They forcefully keep driving the
people out and building more illegal settlements. Cutting all sorts of
basic supplied from ordinary people. When they dig tunnels to smuggle
food they are held as the culprits. Do you expect them to put up and
die?

Those aren't the words of somebody who wants peace. Those are teh words of somebody who wants victory.

You clearly do not want peace but power and only on your terms. Life
does not work like that. Sooner or later you will have opposition.
Those dispossed Palestinians will fight back until their rights are
addressed.

I'm not Jewish, and I'm not Israeli. I don't personally care if there is ever peace in the middle east. I don't even know any Israelis. I do know some Arabs, but none of them are Palestinians. I wouldn't even be talking about this at all, except for the fact that I read a lot of Arab blogs and Arabs are constantly trying to get people to take their side. So, I feel a need to explain why that isn't going to happen.

You expect Israelis to talk about peace and love, when 200 clerics just decalred a jihad in Gaza? You know how that is going to end, right? Lots of dead Arabs. A few dead Israelis. You want to talk about peace and love, Ahmed? I'm with you, brother. You first. What are your suggestions, for getting from where we are to getting to where we need to be?

Anonym7 one more thing

In any case the "existential threat" from Iran is not there, so take it
easy Mazloom, and let's open a Chelowkabai together in Israel?

If Obama wasn't worried about Iran with nukes, then you can be sure Obama would not be pushing "talks" with the IRI. Something to think about, if you were under the impression that only Bush has a problem with the idea.

Anonym7

Craig, sometimes you need to do some thinking for yourself.

Unlike a lot of people on this website, I actually *do* think for myself. You won't find me shovelling any canned talking points. My opinions don't match anyone else I know, either online or off. That's why it annoys teh hell out of me when people here try to label me as just another "xyz". Which happens a lot.

Do you
remember last year you were arguing that there are no Zionists!?

No, I don't recall that at all. Can you refresh my memory? I don't recall saying anything at all about Zionists, other than to deny being one.

Do you now see that Zionists actually exist? We even have a few of them
(Zion, Mazloom, Bijan, etc.) here that are interesting people and we
like them despite our disagreements.

OK... what is your point?

So ..... Craig, Zionists exist, but Iran's "existential threat" to Israel DOES NOT EXIST.

I asked what you were basing that claim on. I didn't ask you to throw me a red herring as a distraction :)