Israel launches covert war against Iran
Daily Telegraph / Philip Sherwell
16-Feb-2009 (180 comments)

It is using hitmen, sabotage, front companies and double agents to disrupt the regime's illicit weapons project, the experts say. The most dramatic element of the "decapitation" programme is the planned assassination of top figures involved in Iran's atomic operations. Despite fears in Israel and the US that Iran is approaching the point of no return in its ability to build atom bomb, Israeli officials are aware of the change in mood in Washington since President Barack Obama took office. They privately acknowledge the new US administration is unlikely to sanction an air attack on Iran's nuclear installations and Mr Obama's offer to extend a hand of peace to Tehran puts any direct military action beyond reach for now. The aim is to slow down or interrupt Iran's research programme, without the gamble of a direct confrontation that could lead to a wider war. A former CIA officer on Iran told The Daily Telegraph: "Disruption is designed to slow progress on the programme, done in such a way that they don't realise what's happening. You are never going to stop it.

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testing Mazloom

by Anonym7 (not verified) on

Mazloom, bia ba ham ye chelokebabi to Esrail vaz konim, ya mani bad Esvai sari to Esraeli kola mizaram ya toi Esraili sari man kolah bezar. chichi miguii?


IRANdokht

M Mazloon

by IRANdokht on

Some of you write in Kashani, or Isfahan, or Shiraz. Those who speak the farsi in Tehran have hard time reading and understanding the sentences

SAY WHAT?

Just say you don't speak Farsi. Can't you be honest?  Why do you make excuses which only prove that you really don't know what you're talking about?

IRANdokht


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Nouraee

by Anonym7 (not verified) on

ye sari boro Iran! man raftam baad ez 24 sal.... vatan, akheresh vatanes! moltafet shodi!


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Mehdi Mazloom

by XerXes (not verified) on

inghad nakon (kari) zeshteh


Ahmed from Bahrain

Programmer Craig

by Ahmed from Bahrain on

You obviously have no idea of the recent history of Israel and just look at Hamas and Hizbolla as terrorists as you have been listening to your own media. They came after The Stern, Hagana and otherZionist gangs. They are the effect not the cause.

If you plant the seed of tomato, don't be surprised to get tomatoes. I have no power to stop anybody from seeking revenge especially if they have no recourse to justice.

History tells us millions of Jews came into Palestine and drove the people of that land by force. Today Israel remains the only country in the world with no defined borders. They forcefully keep driving the people out and building more illegal settlements. Cutting all sorts of basic supplied from ordinary people. When they dig tunnels to smuggle food they are held as the culprits. Do you expect them to put up and die?

Spare me the details. You must live in your own cocoon. Go do some research please.

Jews don't have blue eyes and blond hair. they are imports just like the Falashas. If religion was the basis of ownership of land then all the Indonesians should file claims to Saudi Arabia.

You clearly do not want peace but power and only on your terms. Life does not work like that. Sooner or later you will have opposition. Those dispossed Palestinians will fight back until their rights are addressed.

Look at the rate of kill: 1:100. This goes for all other areas. Here are some stats:

//ifamericansonlyknew.com/

Which proves that Jewish blood is more sacred than gentiles. They are the 'chosen race' according to God. What kind of god is this. What about the rest of us. Fodder for your pleasure?

ckeck this policy statement:

//informationclearinghouse.info/article21992....

//www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/1851684670...

//www.alternet.org/story/126724/pageentire

Stop teaching victimhood, from Pharoas, to Pogroms, to Holocaust, to Palestinians and now endless stream of enemies: Muslim terrorists. Give back the stolen lands; let the millions of refugees return to their homes and have one country for all the people with one vote. Declare peace and brotherhood for all.That is love in action.

Do pigs fly? Ye sir they do. Its called aeroplane. So there is hope.

As for Israel having the highest GDP. It is the number one supplier of weapons to India. An economy based on manufacture/supply of chemical and biological weapons does not make me proud one iota. Besides if America stopped those billions and AIPAC, Israel's economy will be zilch.

Devote that energy to futhering humanity like those outstanding Jewish artists, musicians and scientists who promote human life. I have a few good Jewish friends. I just cringe at the talk of all this religious dogma, be it from a mulla, a rabbi or an evangelist. Enough to turn anyone from religion except those who preach this sort of crap.

NOW, can we talk about love?

Ahmed from Bahrain


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Kaveh jaan, yeh safar boro aziz

by XerXes (not verified) on

beh jaaneh khodam keh hich kaarit nadaaran. khaili raahate. Joone man yeh safar boro Iran. baba bikhiyaale molahaa, vatanete. Iran keshvareteh, goh khordeh kesi behet migeh nemituni beri. beh khoda baraaye ruhiyeh khoobeh :)
beh har haal agar tunesti boro. Man dafeye aval mitarsidam, vali bekhoda keh khaili raahateh, kesi ham aslan kari beh karet nadareh. asan negaatam nemikonan.


Mehdi Mazloom

writing farsi

by Mehdi Mazloom on

the biggest problem reading farsi in english letters is. thereare so many dialects in Iran, where each city has its own ditict one.

Some of you write in Kashani, or Isfahan, or Shiraz. Those who speak the farsi in Tehran have hard time reading and understanding the sentences

Amma ma ye-kar-i mi-konnim. 


Kaveh Nouraee

chand saal?

by Kaveh Nouraee on

mizanan, merci.

(switching back and forth gets harder when persian speakers aren't around as much. )

37 saal naraftam.


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Leez mikonan

by XerXes (not verified) on

Yani chi? (lis mizanan, manzureteh?)
Chand saal e Iran narafti?


Kaveh Nouraee

XerXes

by Kaveh Nouraee on

Hamvatan hastam, vali vatanfooroush nistam, mesleh ina keh koon e mollah leez mikonan.


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Mehdi Mazloom, very interesting

by XerXes (not verified) on

Can someone tell me why we Americans have to pay for Israelis if they are so rich to begin with. Thanks Shalom Eliyahu, that was informative.
Please let's start the campaign using these figures to argue against US aid to Israel. In 4 years US has given Israel 157,000,000,000 in aids.
Us has paid for museums and national monuments and the economy of Israel, and yet they make so much on their own?
Take note. I think this is great. An idea to stop US financial support to moftkhors.
Why should I pay from my tax to those guys when we have schools in my neighborhood that don't have enough to hire teachers.
Where is American Wife and An Fishie to take note as an American. These Israeli have certainly taking advantage of Americans.
As you can tell dude, Iran makes that by herself, Israel doesn't. So what if a begger that can't live without the huge help of big daddy "shows" good per capita income. Got you. lol
I am not letting this one fly. This is a very good argument, thanks for the idea.


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Kaveh

by XerXes (not verified) on

Juneh man javab bedeh keh bebinam hamvatan hasti. Baa in sobatat ba'zi moghe shak mikonam. Damet garm, yeh nedaayee beresoon.


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FUD

by Alborzi (not verified) on

This is FUD ( fear uncertainity despair ?), Iran is under so many sanctions that they cannot go and easily buy stuff. Also by its nature (being under many investigations), I doubt that Israelis can even find some one to kill. If it was that easy Mohammed Alberradei had done so and the NIE would not say zereshk. What they can and are doing is plant stories in the press to cause FUD and maybe get their guys elected too, even though they eat from toobreh and akhor.


Mehdi Mazloom

Gharib - did you do your homework?

by Mehdi Mazloom on

Obviously not. Your post indicated that "an Iranian friend of yours was accepted to work in a company, when an an Israeli boss ordered a low ranking employee to advise him not to come to work". If your friend had the proper qualification, the Israeli boss would have accepted him.

Another one of your convoluted diatribes. You write:

Most americans work hard and have integrity, but israelies tend to be
lazy and do less work and try to get maximum benefits at cost of others.
this is not anything that can be argued about and it is a well known fact.

On which planet do you live mister. Israel is only second to US with per capita number of high tech Startups in the world. Israeli (1000 new one every year)

Take a look at this partial list of companies which were started in Israel, or or opened offices in US.

Startups & Investors

The following is a partial list of the 1,000+ TechAviv members that meet monthly in Israel, New York, Silicon Valley and Boston.

Click here: //www.techaviv.com/members/

Israel is numberone in the world (per capita) in investment in R & D, and number of academic graduates it produces.

Finally, take a look at this table below, then lets talk about "lazy" people.



GDP
per CAPITA (2007 est).

1. Bangladesh---$1,400

2.  Egypt:---------$5,400

3 Jordan:--------$4,700

4. Mauritania......$1,800

5.  Nigeria:-------$2,200

 

6. Pakistan:------$2,600

7.  Somalia:--------$600

8.  Syria:---------$4,300

9. Sudan:--- ----$2,500

10. Yemen--------$2,400

TOTAL:-------$27,900

ISRAEL------$28,800



Iran:--------------$12,300 


Kaveh Nouraee

I Love This

by Kaveh Nouraee on

Two-faced Hypocritical Double-talk Example #1:

What does your country have to do with Iran and Iranians and their internal affairs?  since when is it ok for foreign countries to dictate internal politics?

What the hell do you think your beloved IRI is doing in Iraq, Gaza and the West Bank, sweetheart? Playing backgammon and having tea?

#2:What do you know about bravery? sitting in NY City and writing BS on an iranian website makes you brave now?

I'm sorry, is it bravery only when the BS comes from someone sitting in L.A.? I guess I didn't get the memo outlining how in the Eastern Time Zone it's cowardice and in the Pacific Time Zone it's bravery. I guess if you live in Denver or Chicago you're screwed.

So it pisses you off that people might get paid to infiltrate Iranian websites? Is that because you already do it for free?

Ostaad: I have said it before and I say it again. Iran and Israel have neither the intention nor the capabilities to attack each other militarily and expect any results other than disaster for both and the region as well.

Probably the most rational and sensible statement of this entire thread.


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NP, Capt. Ayhab, GH: I

by sickofiri (not verified) on

NP, Capt. Ayhab, GH:

I recommend you watch this:

//iranian.com/main/2009/feb/discussion-ab...


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the engineers always work

by Anonymousf (not verified) on

the engineers always work hard and get shafted by bad bosses. no matter where they are from.
and in fact it is the bosses who get all the stocks qand big benefits.


Daryush

Yek nafar miyad keh man montazereh didanesham

by Daryush on

hamishe ghayeb e man zakhmamo marham mizaneh

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nakoneh yeh vaght nayad sedash bedadam nareseh??? sings too fast for me to type when under influence.

Capt aziz, last time you ask to join me when I get to drink, here it is, wish you were here. I am at your service and all my Iranian hamvatan. nokaretam. che aahangi bah bah, ashkam dar umad.

 


Artificial Intelligence

Capt Aziz

by Artificial Intelligence on

I just had lunch but with the Salad Shirazi offer I can go again. Perhaps with food we can bring peace to the region. 


capt_ayhab

Arti jan

by capt_ayhab on

then SALAD e SHIRAZI it is..................

bon appetite

capt_ayhab [-YT]


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Israeli engineers and

by abc (not verified) on

Israeli engineers and professionals are ridiculed and discriminated against constantly in the US too. It was only a short 50 years ago that the jews marched with the blacks for equal/civil rights.

Anti-semitism is alive and well among Christians and catholics. One of my Israeli colleagues was called a "resident Jew" by a guy from Texas. The poor Israeli guy who had just immigrated to US, did not get offended because he did not know that the verbiage was a racial slur.


capt_ayhab

Anonym7

by capt_ayhab on

Dahanam ab oftad ostad. 

actually your idea might work, as many Iranian Jews that are in Israel, I bet you that they have already opened up couple of knock-off NAYEBS and SHAMSHIRI'S there.

but seriously, How paranoid one nation can get, its beyond me

capt_ayhab [-YT]


Artificial Intelligence

Dear Anonym7 & NP

by Artificial Intelligence on

Hamshari, Damet Garm! I like your Chelowkababi idea. Only one problem. We can not serve Maso Khiar in the Chelow Kababi in Israel. Can't mix dairy and meat:))))

I do prefer Maso Mooseer! 

Dear NP,

Mehdi was born in Iran. 

 

 

 


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anonym7: Imagine if you were

by questions (not verified) on

anonym7: Imagine if you were the President of country X.

Your country is also surrounded by hostile population who want to drive you to the sea.

Then country y decides not to recognize the existence of your country. Not only that, it engages in proxy wars against your country mainly for warprofiteering and some distant hope of assistance when your country is in danger, which will not really materialize since Arabs are also hostile toward your country.

Country Y also wants to wipe you off the map, (Az Safheyeh roozegar mahv shavad), or it wants your population to move to Alaska or Europe. It also launches a global Ashura-denial campaign, in which Hossiens and his fighters are deemed fake and the story of Karabal battle phoney.

Even without the nuclear weapons, wouldn't you have to take these actions as a threat to your country. What is your responsibility as a leader of that country?


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"Not a rubbish. " med

by GH (not verified) on

"Not a rubbish. "
med mazloom boy wrote this.
his english has severe deficiencies
Incomplete sentence
also he is using a to count rubbish as if rubbish was countable.
he is so obsessed with his agenda that he cannot read words. all i said was a true story.
He is insane obsessed with politics and does not want to admit that israelies when it come to values they are far below Americans or europeans .
Most americans work hard and have integrity, but israelies tend to be lazy and do less work and try to get maximum benefits at cost of others.
this is not anything that can be argued about and it is a well known fact.
i do not even know why anyone would care about israel if he/she lives in usa and enjoys the good life us provides him. so i would say the people really are sick.


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How about a Chelowkabai in Israel! (to Mazloom)

by Anonym7 (not verified) on

Mazloom, ... we have known for sometime that you guys don't want to "allow" Iran to build it.
My point was that even if Iran builds some nukes, she won't be an existential threat to Israel.
In any case the "existential threat" from Iran is not there, so take it easy Mazloom, and let's open a Chelowkabai together in Israel? How about that? You mange the store and I make the Kabab and maso khyar, in Esfahan I enjoyed working for a Jewish owned company. If Zion behaves we'll give her free Kabab.


Niloufar Parsi

khatamilover

by Niloufar Parsi on

zalem is no iranian, he's just pretending. 

as for khatami, he is your lover! why u asking me? :)

 


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NP: Mazloom is

by khatamilover (not verified) on

NP: Mazloom is Iranian-Israeli.

BTW, how's your hero Khatami doing?


Niloufar Parsi

GH

by Niloufar Parsi on

mehdi zalem keh irani nist!


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by the way the same friend

by GH (not verified) on

by the way the same friend said that an israeli engineer was the nicest guy he saw working with him, so maybe the sobs are bosses whether israeli or irani. maybe the prerequisite to be boss and vp is to ba a sob. ok maybe that is the reason.