Gaza Attack News and Open Thread


Gaza Attack News and Open Thread
by Q

Since the usual mob of so-called Persian "patriots" is clearly uncomfortable talking about Israeli war crimes (or anything other than their own agenda), I propose we have an open thread where the latest from the Gaza crisis can be discussed.

First, let me say, that those people who constantly moan about "I don't care about X, this is IRANIAN.COM, not X.COM", are clearly wrong. Many of them are disingenuous. This has been proven several times. Most recently it was proven again when I put up news stories of Iranians getting killed in Iraq, and the inhuman and hostile reaction some of these "patriots" exhibited was telling.

A smaller group is clearly just protecting Israel against criticism. We have all met these people, some of them right-of-center thinkers who admire Israel's modernity, power and authority and don't care about much else. Some of them are Iranian Jews who have found a sense of pride and belonging in the dominant Israeli narrative in the West, and this is their way of protecting that feeling. Some are brought up to equate Islam with Arabs and evil and since Israel is "against" Arabs, they think Israel must be a friend, so they are just protecting friends from "enemies" by trying to silence criticism of Israel.

One way this hypocrisy becomes obvious is with their own conduct. They claim they support freedom of speech and also that we should not waste energy on Palestine when there are human rights violations in Iran. Both are valid points of view. But why would a person who has these views waste time actually criticizing others who do write about Palestine? Does that sound like someone who wants to just concern themselves with Iranian human rights? Why would someone like that care, for example, that Iran has requested Intropol investigations of Israeli officials?

Not everyone is a hypocrite of course, far from it, even here. Some people genuinely just think the Palestinian issue has nothing to do with us, and they do not want to lose focus on Iran. While I can respect their honesty, I think they are misguided. The world is incredibly interconnected. Crisis in the Middle East as well as anything having to do with Israel, Turkey, US is very relevant to Iran, relevant to the future of our country, and to the future of the people in it, including those who are seeking democratic changes.

However, I didn't really mean to get off on a rant here. I did not make this blog to talk about why the Gaza massacre is relevant to us, I will write an article about that part soon. Here, I just want to give a central location to those who do care about what is going on to comment, share links and ideas. I humbly ask those who do not care to stay out of this as to not cause themselves any unnecessary headaches.

The Picture is of the Nobel Elders Group, founded by Nelson Mandela and comprised of Nobel Peace prize winners who are active in human rights issues. It just released the statement on the Gaza crisis, which in part reads:

“The Elders have condemned the reported killing by Israeli forces of more than a dozen people who were attempting to deliver relief supplies to the Gaza Strip by sea,” the 12—member group said in a statement issued in Johannesburg, where it met over the weekend.

The group, which was launched by Mr. Mandela on his birthday in 2007 to try to solve some of the world’s most intractable conflicts, called for a “full investigation” of the incident and urged the UN Security Council “to debate the situation with a view to mandating action to end the closure of the Gaza Strip.” “This tragic incident should draw the world’s attention to the terrible suffering of Gaza’s 1.5 million people, half of whom are children under the age of 18,” the group said.

This comes in the wake of the UN Security Council action after a 12 hour emergency meeting. It was predictably watered down by Israel's main supporter, the United States. But it was passed anyway. See: UN Security Council Condemns Israel for Violence in Gaza Raid, Seeks Probe.

Lastly, I want to leave you with this short interview by Dr. Norman Finkelstein, himself an American Jew and son of two holocaust survivors who has dedicated his life to battling the inhuman Israeli policies and their corrupt cheerleaders in American media and society. Here he talks about why Israeli is officially a "Lunatic State":

So please share your feelings and links.
See Mola's blog here: //

Update: See Zedbazi's excellent Gaza solidarity song made during Israel's previous crimes in 2009.


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Talk about hypocrisy

by Fair on

I strongly condemn all violence against innocent civilians, whether it is by Israel against Gazans, or IRI and Khomeini against students who ask for their basic rights.

Now let us see how much the author of this blog  and others who post dozens of articles about how unacceptable the killing of 9 people on this flotilla complain about the murder by Khomeini of thousands of Iranians without trial in a couple of days.  Or how "offended" they were by the murder and rape and execution without trial of hundreds of innocent Iranians in the last year by this regime. 

Let us see how much outrage they show when in one day 5 Kurds are executed without trial or any due process whatsoever.

Or when Jafar Panahi or Simin Behbabahani are imprisoned.  Or when Neda Agha Soltan is murdered in front of the whole world.  Or when the supreme Islamic Fuehrer declares war against the Iranian people.

And let us see how many inhabitants of Gaza or South Lebanon have shown support for pro democracy activists in Iran.

The silence is deafening, and the hypocrisy of these people reeks.



Ari Siletz

Much more than just $

by Ari Siletz on

Israel lobby work includes    1. Rallying favorable voter turnout

2. Opponent candidate targeting in ads.

3. Trips to Israel to garner sympathy

4. Pro-Israel think tanks

5. $47 million annual budget, 100,000 members, 200 lobbyists/researchers/organizers, 300 college recruiting stations

And  $ contribution to American politics:

Israel: $57 million  1990-2006

Arab/Muslim 0.3 million 1990-2006 (though wikipedia says 0.8 million)

source Washington Post.

Corporate and union lobbying for comparison. 




Mola Nasredeen

Excellent break down of who gets how much to serve Israel in

by Mola Nasredeen on

US congress. * $34.6 million (1978-2000). I'm waiting for the new figures for 2000-2010. Anybody knows?

Fozolie: Why don't you write about Afghans plight? If you haven't then you are the hypocrite.


Crocodille tears of the discredited left and Islamists

by fozolie on

wow all this effort to condemn and own goal by a nation of Hitler's children, how much have you guys written about the plight of Afghans who are Iranian people or for that matter people in Iran?

Mr. Fozolie


Someone suggested the following

by on

How to get active against the Zionist lobby in the US?


We as a group, a voice-- A people of conviction can get things done:

How to Email your Representative on AIPAC-

In the last bracket just type the last name of your or any
representative where you then go to their homepage and then you put in a
local zip code and an address and some phone number and then you get to
send them an email

The following partial list contains those members of Congress who have
received large amounts of money from AIPAC:
Levine, Carl (D-MI): $564,858 - Senate
Harkin, Thomas (D-IA): $423,995 - Senate
Gejdenson, Sam (D-CT): $335,601 - House
Lieberman, Joseph (D-CT): $226,508 - Senate
Durbin, Richard (D-IL): $245,671 - Senate
Specter, Arlen (R-PN): $366,123 - Senate
Kyl, Jon (R-AZ): $77,000 - Senate
Feinstein, Dianne (D-CA): $112,842 - Senate
Lantos, Tom (D-CA): $68,660 - Senate
Berman, Howard (D-CA): $55,450 - House
Harman, Jane (D-CA): $57,071 - House
Filner, Bob (D-CA): $70,514 - House
Dodd, Christopher (D-CT): $182,928 - Senate
Graham, Bob (D-FL): $94,250 - Senate
Lewis, John (D-GA): $64,150 - House
Akaka, Daniel (D-HI): $93,500 - Senate
Porter, John (R-IL): $70,680 - House
Evans, Lane (D-IL):$74,793 - House
Burton, Dan (R-IN): $60,900 - House
Lugar, Richard (R-IN): $43,200 - Senate
McConnell, Mitch (R-KY): $285, 425 - Senate
Snowe, Olympia (R-ME): $71,000 - Senate
Sarbane, Paul (D-MD): $159,963 - Senate
Kennedy, Edward (D-MA): $66,120 - Senate
Levine, Sander (D-MI): $86,527 - House
Lott, Trent (R-MS): $67,200 - Senate
Gephardt, Richard (D-MO): $134,880 - House
Baucus, Max (D-MT): $232,248 - Senate
Burns, Conrad (R-MT): $165,010 - Senate
Kerry, Robert (D-NE): $198,500 - Senate
Reid, Harry (D-NV): $253,802 - Senate
Torricelli, Robert (D-NJ): $125, 652 - Senate
Saxton, James (R-NJ): $53,650 - House
Bingaman, Jeff (D-NM): $261,425 - Senate
Engel, Eliot (D-NY): $98,668 - House
Lowe, Nita (D-NY): $84,088 - House
Gilman, Benjamin (R-NY): $80,543 - House
Price, David (D-NC): $51,827 - House
Conrad, Kent (D-ND): $195,689 - Senate
Dogan, Byron (D-ND): $95,850 - Senate
Licht, Richard (D-RI): $245, 605 - Senate
Reed, Jack (D-RI): $75,050 - House
Pell, Claiborne (D-RI): $180,950 - Senate
Hollings, Ernest (D-SC): $73,275 - Senate
Johnson, Tim (D-SD): $51,000 - Senate
Gordon, Barton (D-TN): $55,400 - House
Frost, Martin (D-TX): $126,864 - House
Hatch, Orrin (R-UT): $50,700 - Senate
Jeffords, James (I-VT): $34,050 - Senate
Robb, Charles (D-VA): $255,093 - Senate
Wolf, Frank (R-VA): $47,500 - House
Gorton, Sladee (R-WA): $180,000 - Senate
Feingold, Russell (D-WS): $56,810 - Senate
Obey, David (D-WS): $147,100 - House

· * $34.6 million (1978-2000).

Kirk, Mark S. (R-IL) $91,200
Engel, Eliot (D-NY) 55,500
Hoyer, Steny H. (D-MD) 54,000
Cantor, Eric (R-VA) 47,500
Berkley, Shelley (D-NV) 43,850
Diaz-Balart, Lincoln (R-FL) 39,000
Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana (R-FL) 37,750
Klein, Ron (D-FL) 37,300
Burton, Dan (R-IN) 33,500
Knollenberg, Joseph K. (R-MI) 33,500

House: Career
Berkley, Shelley (D-NV) $290,055
Engel, Eliot (D-NY) 235,418
Kirk, Mark S. (R-IL) 221,082
Hoyer, Steny H. (D-MD) 193,275
Cantor, Eric (R-VA) 176,230
Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana (R-FL) 163,740
Obey, David R. (D-WI) 160,600
Lowey, Nita M. (D-NY) 149,238
Levin, Sander M. (D-MI) 128,727

Senate: Career
Levin, Carl (D-MI) $728,737
Harkin, Thomas R. (D-IA) 552,950
*Specter, Arlen (R-PA) 503,473
Lautenberg, Frank R. (D-NJ) 502,578
McConnell, Mitch (R-KY) 485,141
Durbin, Richard J. (D-IL) 372,421
Lieberman, Joseph (I-CT) 366,351
Baucus, Max (D-MT) 348,648
*Reid, Harry (D-NV) 320,301
*Wyden, Ronald (D-OR) 277,562

How can we ever resist the bully known as Israel if they are filling the
pockets of our lawmakers to this extent, the list above is a partial
list from one year. We need UN sanctions to force the Kenesset to
remove settlers and police the area to safety. Shut down this lobby


Mola Nasredeen

Today: Thousands on the streets of Europe against Israel

by Mola Nasredeen on

Angry protestors chanting anti-Israeli slogans and waving Palestinian and Turkish flags took to the streets of Istanbul, London, Dublin and Paris as well as a string of other French cities, following Monday's deadly assault.

Demonstrators branded Israel a "murderer", demanded that it lift its blockade and vowed that the deaths of the nine activists would not be in vain.

In Turkey a crowd of around 10,000 gathered at the Caglayan square on the European side of the city straddling the Bosphorus Strait. "Murderer Israel!," chanted the demonstrators, at times breaking into shouts of "Allahu Akbar!" or "God is great" in English.

"The longer we keep silent, the bigger the massacre grows," read a banner in French while the demonstrators waved Palestinian flags and shouted anti-Israeli slogans.

Many of them wore headbands that read "Murderers Israel, keep your hands off the boats!" in Hebrew and English. The dead activists were all Turkish including one who also had US nationality.

In Dublin, organisers of the Irish march said up to several thousand people had taken part.

"I think people are incredibly angry that nine peace activists were murdered in an attempt to intimidate people coming to Gaza," said Richard Boyd Barrett, chairman of the Irish Anti-War Movement who was on the march.

In France, over 20,000 people, including 5,000 in Paris, vented their anger at Israel's handling of the aid flotilla, police said. Read more: 


Mola Nasredeen

The criminal regime of Israel stops Rachel Corrie's ship from

by Mola Nasredeen on

reaching Gaza to deliver its cargo. Once more the world failed the oppressed Palestinians to receive aid. Israeli supporters on this site can now go and celebrate.




by fooladi on

Now tell us "Q" something a bit exciting. How about the latest on "american Idol" or mullah nassrullahh's hiding place in Tehran??!!


REAL Jews and Turkish nationalists stand together on Gaza

by Q on


Pat Buchanon, Naomi Klein on Israeli massacre and more!

by Disenchanted on



Israel claims, and film confirms, that its commandos rappelling down onto the Turkish ship were attacked with sticks and metal rods. One was tossed off a deck, another tossed overboard into a lifeboat.
But that 2 a.m. boarding of an unarmed ship with an unarmed crew, carrying no munitions or weapons, 65 miles at sea, was an act of piracy. What the Israeli commandos got is what any armed hijacker should expect who tries to steal a car from a driver who keeps a tire iron under the front seat.
And the response of these highly trained naval commandos to the resistance they encountered? They shot and killed nine passengers, and wounded many more.

If the only way we can make the Israelis feel “secure” is by allowing them to engage in international piracy on the high seas, then perhaps this is the sort of high-maintenance relationship we can no longer afford. When Israelis are allowed to kill and kidnap Americans, without having to endure even a mild rebuke, one has to wonder what, exactly, is going on in Washington, D.C. Yes, the Israel lobby is one of the most powerful, but surely there’s someone in those circles willing to stand up for America and American interests – isn’t there?

Here is how IAPAC recruits in campuses in US:


Helen Thomas White House News corp icon under attck for criticizing Israel: (see video in the link):



Blinding the witness by Naomi Klein:



NZ protesters throw shoes over Gaza

by Q on

Hundreds of anti-Israel protesters hurled old shoes at the US consulate in Auckland on Saturday in an "expression of outrage and anger" over clashes between Israeli armed forces and Gaza-bound aid workers.

The demonstration, organised by Global Peace and Justice Auckland, called for sanctions against the Israeli government after nine humanitarian aid workers were killed when Israeli commandos stormed a flotilla of boats travelling to Gaza with aid on Monday, protest organiser Mike Treen said.

Protests also took place in Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin.



My thoughts exactly Bavafa

by Q on

this is why Iranians and Palestinians are exactly in the same boat. We are thought of as nothing more than Pavlovian dogs by US and Israel.


Gaza-bound aid ship defies orders to put to Israel port

by Q on

JERUSALEM : Gaza-bound aid ship Rachel Corrie ignored Israeli orders to put to port in the southern coastal city of Ashdod Saturday and steamed on towards Gaza in defiance of the warships which had intercepted it, the military said.

"We indicated several times to the organisers aboard the ship that they should head to the port of Ashdod as there is a blockade in force on the Gaza Strip, but they ignored our appeals and are continuing to head towards Gaza," a military spokeswoman said.

Earlier a spokesman for the Gaza-based welcoming committee told AFP: "The Rachel Corrie has been intercepted 35 miles off Gaza.

"Several Israeli boats surrounded them between 30 and 35 miles off Gaza and prevented them from reaching Gaza," Amjad al-Shawa said after speaking by telephone with passengers on the boat.

He said that communication with the vessel had since been "completely cut".

- AFP/jy


good call "jamshid" is probably fake too

by Q on

but hey, a loser is a loser and the syntax is not important. But what would you or your "close friend" Jamshid know about what's important in life? Here, there are no disputes.

"LOL" indeed!


Calm down Q, this is not Jamshid - LOL

by hooshie on

And by the way, your English sucks too. No wonder normal speakers  find your usage, to say it politely, funny:

"But only one foam in the mouth fanatic who in a fit of anger loses his
ability to read English and ceases to make any sense at all."

I suppose you mean "foam at the mouth" or more commonly "froth at the mouth."


Poor usage Q!! 

But I can see that in a fit of anger you not only use bad English but also badly identify your "friends" - LOL.



A great and insight ful article here about the nature of embargo

by Bavafa on

"I know that terrorists can be fiendishly clever, but there is no real evidence, only unconfirmed rumors among the intel community, that Hamas actually has the Coriander Bomb. Most experts put them at least 5-8 years away from developing that sort of destructive technology "

"In reality, the embargo has a broader and more sinister purpose: to impoverish the people of Gaza, and thus turn them against Hamas. As the Israeli newspaper Haaretz has reported, the Israeli officials in charge of the embargo adhere to what they call a policy of "no prosperity, no development, no humanitarian crisis." In other words, the embargo must be tight enough to keep the people of Gaza miserable, but not so tight that they starve."




Robert Fisk: The truth behind the Israeli propaganda

by Q on

But whoops! At least the Israelis have not demanded ransom. They just want to get journalists to win the propaganda war for them. Scarcely had the week begun when Israel's warrior "commandos" stormed a Turkish boat bringing aid to Gaza and shot nine of the passengers dead. Yet by week's end, the protesters had become "armed peace activists", vicious anti-Semites "professing pacifism, seething with hate, pounding away at another human being with a metal pole". I liked the last bit. The fact that the person being beaten was apparently shooting another human being with a rifle didn't quite get into this weird version of reality.



Gaza Tanha Nisti! (by ZedBazi)

by Q on

Jamshid jan, no use toying with you. There are many morons on this site. But only one foam in the mouth fanatic who in a fit of anger loses his ability to read English and ceases to make any sense at all. It's obvious to the entire Universe who you are. Anyway, don't be such a big loser. The last person who needs to lecture anyone about cowardice, hypocrisy and "what should be written" is you. "Moch giri" has never gone your way, my friend!


The "fake" exposer is exposed

by hooshie on

If you want to remain blind to the bare facts, this is your right but do not expect others to follow your example. This blog is just another front for Q and his pals, like you, to "expose" or do "moch-giri" but your hypocrisy is blocked to go further when you are asked to show evidence of your own anti-IRI campaigns when the IRI is breaking the international humanitarian laws.


If the pruprose of the blog was what Q is bluffing about he should not have written this opening paragraph:

" First, let me say, that those people who constantly moan about "I don't
care about X, this is IRANIAN.COM, not X.COM", are clearly wrong. Many
of them are disingenuous. This has been proven several times. Most
recently it was proven again when I put up news stories of Iranians getting killed in Iraq, and the inhuman and hostile reaction some of these "patriots" exhibited was telling."


Just click on the link and see how desperately he is trying to "expose" others while it he who is "exposed" as a fake.


Sorry guys but your claims do not add up. Try again bros.


Mola Nasredeen

Thousands protest against Israel the world over

by Mola Nasredeen on

Note: this news update is for the ones who want to read and know about this subject, if not interested they can hide under a blanket, close their eyes and cover their ears.

"Hundreds of pro-Palestinian protesters, 700 to 800 according to police, held a noisy rally in Brussels' EU quarter to decry the attack on the aid flotilla.

They brandished placards calling for an "international and independent" enquiry into the deadly attack as an imam recited verses from the Koran in memory of the victims.

Other posters called for the Gaza blockade to be lifted.

In Austria about 2,500 people protested against the Israeli attack in the capital Vienna, according to an AFP photographer."



get ready for another massacre by Israeli Execution Squad

by Darveesh on



SS is coming to neighborhood near you but this time they are wearing star of david on their arms instead of swastika.


drum roll plz ----------- do i smell criminal charges?

by Darveesh on

"George W. Bush's casual acknowledgment Wednesday that he had Khalid Sheikh Mohammed waterboarded -- and would do it again -- has horrified some former military and intelligence officials who argue that the former president doesn't seem to understand the gravity of what he is admitting."



"I did not make this blog to talk about why the Gaza massacre is

by Darveesh on

poster comments"I did not make this blog to talk about why the Gaza massacre is
relevant to us,"


why isn't massacre of innocent people relevant to us, were they not human beings?


Molla = Mulla ?!

by Arthimis on


As an Iranian, I'd say F$@K Israeli government, Palestinian government and most DEFINITELY Islamic/Satanic Republic government occupying Iran, OK!!

You guys (including Q and other I.R. paid contributors here)  are spaming "" with your Eshghe Felestine B/S. OK! If you spam here, we will fight you to the last drop of blood for Iran and True Iranians!!! Got it? You can't silence us either. Iran before Islam and any other entity is our rightful reason to be here and everywhere the name Iran and Iranians is mentioned! Fight WILL GO ON until Iran and true Iranians are FREE from ISLAM, Palestine, Israel, U.S. Russia, China and any other SOBs who destroyed our Mother land...

Peerooz va Aazaad Baad Iran!

Mola Nasredeen

Those who never get it

by Mola Nasredeen on

1. The author of this blog clearly has stated:

"I did not make this blog to talk about why the Gaza massacre is relevant to us, I will write an article about that part soon. Here, I just want to give a central location to those who do care about what is going on to comment, share links and ideas. I humbly ask those who do not care to stay out of this as to not cause themselves any unnecessary headaches"

To all "shee shees" and "mooshies": If you don't like it here, go to another page and write about the glory of Israel, Shah, or whoever. Take a walk. 

2. There used to be a Zionist Canadian woman who went by the name of Zion here. If Israel farted she would say "what a wonderful fragrance!". She hated any criticism of Israel or Zionism. Before her departure she had trained a few IC users who had the same attitude towards any criticism of Israel. They always attacked the writer of this blog (Q). We have them present here on this thread.

To all you who try to shut us up I have to say: It's been tried before and has failed, you're wasting your time.

You Can't Silence Us, We Will Be Heard! 


مرگ بر جمهوری


مرگ بر جمهوری اسلامی  و شیطانی اشغالگر ایران، تمامی‌ دست اندر
کاراناش و هوا دارانش... پیروز و آزاد باد ایران و ایرانی‌ راستین!


In the meantime: Iraniandotcomers are still waiting Q

by hooshie on

to see the evidence of your balanced records of human rights activities agaisnt both Israel and the Isalmic republic's violation of human rights.

Just a link would be enough -  LOL

Or perhaps you are waiting for a zirzabooni to say baleh?


Mola Nasredeen

In Their Face!

by Mola Nasredeen on

"Greta Berlin, a spokesman for the Free Gaza group, said in Nicosia the 1,200-ton Rachel Corrie is heading directly to Gaza and will not stop in any port on the way. It is trying to deliver hundreds of tons of aid, including wheelchairs, medical supplies and concrete.

By Friday afternoon, the ship was 150 miles (240 kilometers) from the coast of Gaza in international waters, the group said on its website. Irish Nobel Peace Prize laureate Mairead McGuire and the former head of the U.N. Oil-for-Food program in Iraq, Denis Halliday, were among the 11 passengers on board.

The Irish vessel is named after an American college student crushed to death by an Israeli army bulldozer while protesting house" demolitions in Gaza.




by Doctor X on

No one said you were.

I was just teasing ya. Glad you have come to that grand realization yourself. Don't flatter yourself. You religion-hating, peace-loving, free speech-hungry bad boy you.

To khomareesh bemoon.


These people are supposed to be humanitarians

by Rea on