Quintessential Questions

VPK

You give me a great compliment , thank you so much. We have had discussions with different points of view but never hostility. That is why I return, to listen and learn from the likes of you.

Disenchanted

You are going to pop a vein! Gavazn is 100% right. The IRI is exploiting the Palestine issue for political gain. Iranians should be worried more about Iran. Once we put our own house in order then maybe try to worry about other places. Do you ever get upset when an Iranian is put to torture; rape or worse by IRI? Or is that just fine. Besides your rantings are not doing either Palestinians or Iran or anyone else much good. You insults and anger are not helping people.

Gavazn

Well said. I agree with your points about IRI exploiting the Palestine issue. I also agree about priorities. You are a good person and a good Iranian. My hats off to you my friend. We need more people like you.

I respect you despite previous disagreements.

Egypt's Sadat Opposes True Islam To IRI's "Khomeinism" (1979/80)

pictory: Egyptian President Sadat Opposes True Islam To IRI's "Khomeinism" (1979/1980)

Who Killed Him ? ...

Oh and Remember he TOO was also a Nobel Peace Prize Laureate in 1977 ...BUT Unlike Some Folks in The Above Picture HE DESERVED IT ! ... The Nobel Peace Prize That is ...

Related Blogs:

Shah Of Iran & Anwar Sadat Posted by Tapesh

Also Read My Comments regarding Flynt and Hillary Mann Leverett's assessments in the following blog below

Flynt and Hillary Mann Leverett on Iran ( On Charlie Rose)

Recommended Readings:

A Queen's Loyalty! by Darius KADIVAR

Recommended Book: 

Those I Have Known by Anwar Sadat  

FYI/(SURPRISE) Shah and Sadat Pro Palestine Statement (1975)

pictory: (SURPRISE) Shah and Sadat Pro Palestine Statement (1975)

Disenchanted

Why do you people just attack? The point I was making is that you people attack others who do not beat their chests for Palestine. That is what people are sick of. They are not defending Israel at all. I also raised the point about hypocrisy.

You talk nonsense when you let emotions take over and start to bully. Perhaps you should calm down before jumping at peoples throats. I do not have to agree with you about priorities. I stand by what I said and have a right to take part in discussion. Please accept people may have a different point of view. From your tone perhaps you should change your name from "Disenchanted" to  "P*ssed Off".

To Gavazn, what utter nonsense you claim?!

   Gavazn says:     "Iranian government  exploits the Gaza tragedy as a political weapon to suppress Iranian civil society. And you fall for it."

     This is utter nonsense! Erdogan and Irish PM and thousands of human beings in Greece, US, south America etc, outraged by 60 years of atrocities committed by a racist, fascist regime in Israel are also "falling" for IRI tricks?!!

       Gavazn, I don't know which species you belong to (your name have me believe something) but we humans get enraged by vicious crimes and naked aggression. Yes those animals who ran over people with trucks in streets of Tehran are no better than Israelis but the thing is n one at least praises them in NYTIMES and WSJ and CNN! This hypocrisy of world powers is what disgusts every honest and dignified human being!

Disagreeing with you about Priorities is part of good discussion

First of all noone needs to condemn any act of violence on human beings anywhere to justify to those obsessed with Palestine that they are decent people. People on IC are good people and care about Iran and Iranians. Stop trying to intimidate through name calling and accusations.

You people jsut see in black and white and resort to hostility when confronted with issues that you are uncomfortable with. Like Human Rights issues in Iran and double standards and hypocrisy. The truth is people see a bigger picture than you people.

Iranian government  exploits the Gaza tragedy as a political weapon to suppress Iranian civil society. And you fall for it.  

Government’s Intolerance of Civil Society Voices Reveals Double Standards—and its exploitation of the Gaza tragedy

//www.iranhumanrights.org/2009/01/gazaprotest/

Just because you beat your chests for Palestine does not make you better people at all. In fact some of you have made such nasty comments here which shows your own true colours.

See also Human Rights Violations in Iran (my priority):

//blog.amnestyusa.org/middle-east/iran-middle-east/iran-thumbs-its-nose-at-the-world/

"The Iranian government has repeatedly insisted that it cooperates with the international human rights community and abides by internationally recognized human rights instruments and agreements. However, these assertions are belied by Iran’s dismal performance at its Universal Periodic Review (UPR) by the U.N. Human Rights Council (HRC) in Geneva on February 15 and 17. The Iranian delegation incredibly denied its government’s egregious human rights violations, asserting that any criticisms of Iran’s human rights record were merely politically motivated and deliberate mischaracterizations of its efforts to protect its people from “terrorism.”  The Iranian delegation also rejected important recommendations made by the UNHRC which were intended to address the deplorable human rights situation in Iran. "

And last but not least, for our Minorities here who quite rightly raised important notes about hypocrisy:

International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran

"Fear of Imminent Executions of Baha’is: "Iranian authorities have added new charges against 7 Baha’i leaders detained since 2008, under which they could be executed if convicted, and have arrested at least 12 more members of the religious minority, while desensitizing the Iranian population with propaganda campaigns against the Baha’is, the International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran said today. In news reports broadcast nationally, commentators have claimed that recent Ashura demonstrations were masterminded by Baha’is, although no evidence has been produced to support the accusations.

Iran and the world are again confronted by the specter of Bahai’s being executed, this time on charges trumped up in the context of current widespread political unrest,” said Aaron Rhodes, a spokesperson for the Campaign."

Basiji-Ezraeil peyvandetan mobarak

People chanting in the metro of Tehran

Ahmadi-Ezraeil peyvandetan mobarak  (Ahmadi-Ezraeil, happy union) and then after Basiji-Ezraeil peyvandetan mobarak

I am not sure what is more

I am not sure what is more astonishing, the fascism nature of Israeli regime or the hypocritical nature of some of our members here on IC.

Mammad Agha

Since you have mentioned names, I think it is fair to clarify those named position. Miss Hojjati has condemned this act savagery in outher threats early on. We ought to be careful in our accusations.

All those who are providing links and additional related info, much appreciate it.

Mehrdad

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She thinks she ...

is the only one been through crap and now we all have to attend to her special needs when there is a big elephant in the room which is about to step on everyone.

If there is no Iran there won't be any Iranians that you people demand to be recognized as one. Set your priorities right people!

hooshie,

You know what? Yes you are right, Iranians are hypocrites. There are 70 millions of us like that, that when it comes to disintegrating our country or culture, whether you are a separatist Kurd, Turk, Balouch, Arab, or any other wierdo we stand right in front of you and there won't be any way only to step over our corpses. So why don't you join the rest of vatanforoosh(s) to ask for bombing Iran! Go ahead, that's the only way to get rid of us. 

Hooshie jan

I never saw notable names in IC take part in the "I am a Bahai too" blog written by JJ. I wont mention names, but they are going round blogs calling people racist! The truth is these poeple do not consider Bahais as Iranians, but jasoos for the Zionists. They are brainwashed bigots. Do not expect to be counted as an Iranian or "relevant" to these people. What gets me is the fact that they think they are humanitarians, but they are just hypocrites. They either lie to cover up who they are or come out with attacks or ignorant comments. Just move on from such blogs, as you will never change these people.

Q: do you understand your own English?

"Does that sound like someone who wants to just concern themselves with Iranian human rights?"

So you are not just concerend with Iranian human rights? Really?

Lets see the evidence of your support for the plight of the Bahais on this site or on any site?

You are not let off the hook yet buddy.

Show evidence of your support for human rights be it in Gaza or in Gohar dasht or go look up HYPOCRICY.

Two new ships with releif supplies are moving towards Gaza

This is the latest news regarding human rights workers initiative to help Palestinians in Gaza:

"And on the horizon, another ship controversy was brewing. Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen appealed to Israel to let a private Irish ship deliver its aid cargo to Gaza but admitted Wednesday that concrete on the ship would pose a stumbling block because Israel considers that to be of military use.

The 1,200-ton ship Rachel Corrie carries wheelchairs, medical supplies and concrete. It was named after an American college student crushed to death by an Israeli Army bulldozer while protesting house demolitions in Gaza. The ship was supposed to join the aid flotilla but was delayed by mechanical problems. It is currently waiting off the Libyan coast

Those aboard include Mairead Corrigan, a 1976 Nobel Peace Prize winner from Northern Ireland, and Denis Halliday, who previously ran U.N. humanitarian aid programs in Iraq."

//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100602/ap_on_re_eu/eu_turkey_israel

Rep. Frank: "As a jew I am ashamed of Israeli actions"

//www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/02/barney-frank-as-a-jew-ashamed_n_597331.html

   For those who defend Israeli crimes or advocate neglect of it for sake of human rights in Iran, I have to say it would be much easier for Middle East to rid of its tyrants if the menace shadow of Israel is removed from that region. Actions of Israeli thugs is so shameless and abhorrent that in comparison every other rouge regime in the region seems humane! 

By the Way it's pronounced "scheissen" NOT "scheisen" ...

Takes TWO "SS" to make a Turk speak properly even in Hitler's dialect ...

SATIRE: Turk and Iranian argue in Austria ;0)

For Those "Patriots" fitting Q's defintion with Alzheimers ...

Iraq Kurdistan comes under Iran, Turkish bombardment (21-Dec-2008 )

Turkish government to review her relation with the criminal

regime of Israel:

"The lawmakers said Israel must formally apologize for the raid, pay compensation to the victims and bring those responsible to justice.

"This attack was an open violation of United Nations rules and international law," Deputy Parliament Speaker Guldal Mumcu said, reading out the declaration.

"Turkey should seek justice against Israel through national and international legal authorities," the declaration said. "The parliament expects the Turkish government to revise the political, military and economic relations with Israel, and to take effective measures."

mehrban

was the link you provided featured?  i read and commented on the same content (of the link you provided) on a featured news piece: //iranian.com/main/news/2010/06/01/men-violence-perpetrators-post-election-crackdown

also note that many of comments on this thread is not about the content of the blog but a discussion (albeit mostly disrespectful) about the exact point that you're trying to make. this comment doesn't count either. :)

Mehrban jan

I wonder what this says about us and is it an indication of the causes of our present misfortune? 

Ditto, I made this point in the blog, but get bullied and get called names. This is the problem in our society.

The blog of the link below had 81 hits and three comments

While this blog had 1271 hits and over 70 comments.  The blog attached is titled "Human Rights in Iran".

//iranian.com/main/blog/faryarm/men-vilolence-perpetrators-post-election-crackdown 

I wonder what this says about us and is it an indication of the causes of our present misfortune? 

Don't miss the video. 

The Gutless Wonders have Disappeared

All those who keep screaming, "we are supporters of human rights, we are supporters of human rights," have disappeared. It is clear that they do not know the first letter - not even the first word - about HR.

The AIPAC Mafioso - known as Fred on this site - who constantly advocates airtight sanctions for the people of Iran and material support for them - meaning bomb and military attack - has disappeared.

The great objectioner, Hojjati - the woman who as soon as she hears anything about anything other than her views jumps and is a pretender to being a supporter of HR - has been dead silent.

Benross is worried about Iranian.com becoming Israel.com or palestine.com by degenerates like me, but this great supporter of HR cannot get himself to condemn an act of war crime that occured in international waters, against article 33 of Geneva Convention, NOT AGAINST THE "TERRORIST" PALESTINIANS - mind you - but against people from all over the world who wanted to break the four-year siege on Gaza that has transformed it into the largest open-air jail in the world.

Others introduce totally unrelated subjects into this just to distract attention from the war crime that has taken place. The entire world has protested, but these great HR lovers are dead silent, or even attack those of us who condemn the war crime.

Shame on you.

Mammad

atrocious israel

this racist warmongering state founded on a fundamentalist ideology needs to be slapped down through concerted international action.

condemnations are all good, petitions are useful, but let's get serious. why do we need to lobby anyone? if we want to make a difference, we should hit israel where it hurts: let's BOYCOTT the apartheid state by undermining the businesses that fund it. our money pays for israel's atrocities. we should take personal responsibility by controlling where our own money goes. if everyone did this, israel would succumb very quickly. the link above gives the range of products involved.

Q: thanks for the great blog. i know you are not a fan of boycotts, and hope you don't mind the intrusion... :) 

Peace

NP,

Very plausible!

shifting sands

This tragedy

If handled right may be the dawn of peace. Just like the shooting down of the Iranian jet by USA heralded the end of the imposed war.  

This is the time for Palestinians to deal with the problem head on. The people of Israel feel really bad about this whole thing. There is a lot of guilt feelings which may be used to reach peace.

Palestinians should go straight to the people of Israel. They will be better off avoiding Jimmy Carter and his "elders". I do feel for the Palestinians and for that reason I want them to avoid JC. If they want to prosper they should go right to the Israeli people.

Netanyahu is unreasonable and cannot be deal with. Plus Netanyahu and Likud are gonna lose. There are leaders who will accept a just peace. Many moments of peace have come and gone. This is yet another one. Paid for by the blood of innocents it must not be wasted. If this leads to peace the souls of the dead will rest happily. Lets see if there are leaders who will do the right thing.

VPK 

PS
Once this is solved what is IRI gonna use to bash the Iranian people? Maybe IRI will go the way of all bad old things.

Helen Thomas taking on Gibbs at the White House

//palestinenote.com/cs/blogs/news/archive/201...

REAL journalist takes on Israel on American TV

American TV has been laughably silent. There is a code-red embargo on this story in the main stream. If it has to be mentioned it's only a superficial parrotting of isareli talking points.

That's why I have to admire Glen Greenwald for slapping Elliot Spitzer on this issue earlier today.