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Propaganda onion

I listen regularly to Radio Farda and there is nothing such as deceit or lies in their broadcasts. Furthermore I enjoy the songs and the music which is lacking in the broadcasts made by the Mullah regime. It would have been better for the author to have compared the broadcasts of VOA, Radio farda to what is being spewed out by the radio stations of the Islamic republic, giving examples.
I am a Canadian citizen and my wife is famous Doctor Pourandokht Rostamian , a gum specialist also a Canadian citizen residing in North Vancouver of British Columbia. Pourandokht Rostamian my wife has taken up Koranic studies and will soon convert to Islam. She is a staunch supporter of Mr Khatami, the former president of Iran. I am a supporter of Dr Ahmadinejad. Mr Khatami is a born with the gift to deceive people. Once again he is talking about freedom which shows that he wants to stand for election. Although my wife will become a devout muslim I will continue to follow the faith in which I was born with. Me and wife have many disagreements. But we have agreed to disagree specially about Islam.
I continue to work in the Iranian oil industry although according to the law it is illegal as I am a Canadian citizen. But no one knows. This is not deceit as no one asked me this question and when I joined the oil company around 30 years ago I was not a Canadian citizen. My wife likes to make money in North Vancouver. She has installed a dental unit in our residence in North Van and treats patients on the side, making a few extra taxfree bucks on the side. This is also not deceit as no one has asked her about this. But this is another topic. Just got carried away.
And finally the USA will not be the sole economic and political power as it is today. In another twenty years or maybe less the world will be a very different place. Hope we live to see it.
Hoshang Salamati
POGC

Niki you Smokin' hot chic get close to a toothbrush!

Tinoush (aguy)

you are full of yourself. deceiving iranians or misleading is not the way to go. but that's what you, niki akhavan, and the rest of you bozos have been writing about. you are so full of arrogance or disdain that you bring in rejected claims one after another. boy oh boy some people never change. hey Niki you Smokin' hot chic get close to a toothbrush!

Re: jamshid

jamshid, regime change in Iran is not the topic here. I explicitly stated that in my response to Nader.
Nader, made some comments regarding this article thinking he had discovered a flaw in Tinushe's article. I pointed out to Nader that it was his argument that was flawed.

Re: Aguy

Yes, those lobbying groups want regime change for their own interests. But the Iranian people also want regime change for THEIR own interests. And the interests of the Iranian people overrides all others.

And just because there are a few groups whose interests may be against the people of Iran, that does not mean that ALL Iranians who oppose the IRI and want regime change belong to these groups. Than's an insult to Iran and its people. And it is something that the IRI and its lackeys want Iranians to think.

The freedom fighters of Iran have to deal on one hand with the brutal IRI and on the other hand with AIPAC and its cousins, and also with the accusations by IRI that they are influenced by foreign powers.

The good news is that they are gradually succeeding in all three fronts. Let that be a thorn in the eyes of both IRI and AIPPC as well.

Not IRI, not AIPAC/Bush, not anyone can stop the will of a nation.

RE: It is ironic that we are

Nader says:
"Bottom line, the majority of people in Iran, blame two and only two sources for the horrbile state they're in now, not VOA,BBC, FOX NEWS,CNN, MOVE ON.ORG, NY TIMES.....but only two sources, IRI and their leftist allies."

Nader, I am sure you agree that many lobbying groups, specially in the US want regime change in Iran (e.g: //rightweb.irc-online.org/rw/3277).
I don't intend to argue with you whether the regime change orchestrated by the AIPAC, Iranian monarchists, MKO, etc, is good or bad. My point here is that media (propaganda) is used for that objective.
And in a twisted way you are correct, the objective of the propaganda is to make sure that Iranians blame IRI for all their problems, not US imposition of Iraq war on Iran, US sanctions, US support of fanatic extremist groups (Junolah, PEJAC,MKO, ...)...

Tinoush is a Bach akhnud.

Tinoush is a Bach akhnud. What do you expect.

It is ironic that we are

It is ironic that we are called "fossils" when the same people who call us that still live in the Colonial, and the more progrssive ones, in the cold war era !!! All I gotta say is that Tinoush has insulted everyone who disagreed with him on this site by calling them names and label their argumnet as "twisted logic". Jamsheed and I and others, asked him to clarify many things from his artcile and he never did. That shows whos logic is twisted. Bottom line, the majority of people in Iran, blame two and only two sources for the horrbile state they're in now, not VOA,BBC, FOX NEWS,CNN, MOVE ON.ORG, NY TIMES.....but only two sources, IRI and their leftist allies. Anyone who directly or indirectly justifies IRIs actions, are no better than them, maybe even worse..

Awareness

These fascists suffer from a complex organic chemistry reaction to anything relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior. They are simply grafting the pro-Bush, anti Iran, anti Iranian labels to anyone exposing their threat. The author of this article adorably pretens to care about Iranians.

Re: Jamshid

Whayt is your animosity with IRI? I can't believe why individuals like you are so occupied by hatred. Yu are blonded by your own dogma. You got to be in politics.

Gholame hemmat anam ke zir charkhe kabood
ze har che rang e ta'alogh pazirad azad ast;

VOA is the cathouse. Duzens

VOA is the cathouse. Duzens of men hungry bitches work there. You and your article are faster, easier, better in telling us you are a koskhol e bikar. I totlay agree with zip. You are a legendary khar.

Re: Tinoush

Tinoush thanks for your comments titled: "I call it good day's work". It certainly brought the real you out of the closet. Shall we analyze this comment? Here are a few of yourt labelings:

All the fossils have come...

pseudo-Iranian fossils...

They want to take the chains from one herd to another...

layers of dirt accumilated over many years...

Without the dirt they do not exist...

And so on.

You are labeling them because they "dared" to discuss your article with a tone that was not to your "liking". Sounds dictatorial and fascistic, does it not Tinoush?

And then you thank a few of your worthless and insignificant supporters in this thread who happened to be mostly Islamists/leftists. I wonder why Tinoush... I wonder....

Then you say this: "There are people who have expressed their thanks in learning this information (VOA being West's propoganda machine), which they did NOT know before. "

The question that begs asking is that WHO are those people that up until before reading your article did NOT know that VOA is a tool of the West? I mean in what hole were they living? Or if they were not in a hole, what retarded minds do they possess for not knowing this such obvious thing?

Ok. It's like I write an article about the USA having an eye on Iran's oil. Then some people "express" their thanks for "learning" about USA's intention with Iran oil, by reading my article. Then wouldn't you want to know who were those retarded idiots that had to "learn" about this fact in 2007?

Tinoush you blew it, badly.

Tinoush Moulaei on VOA

Your stupid cousins have written and said your article is great. You are a typical reactionary (ERTEJAI) shumbul tala. VOA is a shitty media and people know it but you are a khar with a PH.D.

hey nd, I disagree with the writer

I can't speak for Tinoush, but I thank you for your comment (calling me IRI fart). I reiterate, I don't agree with Tinoush. Another one of my disagreements with her is that I don't think western/US propaganda machine has been very successful past several years. This is what one of former Bush aids Karen Hughes (//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Hughes) explicitly stated in her recent interview with US NPR.
Of course as you and I know the reason for their propaganda failures is not that they can't tell enough lies. The problem is large number of scandals, international, and national, in all areas (war crimes, torture, financial corruption, legal corruption, election corruption, .. etc). Indeed from that perspective Bush-neocons will be shining forever!

I call it good day's work:)

All in all, I would say that I have made at least a dozen people aware of the true nature of VOA and Radio Farda. These are people who have expressed their thanks in learning this information, which they did NOT know before. I call that time well spent researching and writing. I'm happy.

And from the vitriolic comments spurred on me and those who have left supportive comments for my piece, I would say that I'm onto something here. All the fossils have come out of the woodwork to attack me and others with baseless accusations. If they cared enough to justify their comments it was by some twisted logic, which gave insight into one fact. These pseudo-Iranian fossils have no interest in democracy, free thought, and liberty in Iran. They only want to take the chains from one herd and hand them to another. What can be said? Every society has its fossils. Ours are no better or worse, the important point is that they ARE fossils. They have been neatly pressed in layers of dirt accumilated over many years, often in the West. There minds decomposed years ago, and all that remains is the impression of their former self upon the dirt that has interred them. Without the dirt they do not exist. There time has passed, period.

to aguy (tinoush)

You, Anon, Niki, Q are IRI farts.

to die hard anti Iranians (JT, gholi and others)

It seems that you pro Bushies extremist Iranians don't realize that there are many many Iranian, Muslim and non-Muslim (like myself)who disagree with you. When I write something against you at least have the decency of harassing me. I don't know the writer of this article and am not in complete agreement with her. I actually think that many in the western media, specially US media have done a very good job of exposing Bush-neocon gang. From internal scandals such as Jeff Gannon's involvement with the white house (//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon), to international scandals such as the Aboghoraib, Blackwater USA killings, etc.

RE: Anonymous1234

khar? Nice response. You certainly ain't a donkey. Now go and jerk off to that six star flag or that 52 star flag one day flying over Iran.

Re:ag

Nah Tinoush jigar. Man to ro bishtar doost daram. Aval to o mamit bad VOA.

Tinoush, there are some

Tinoush, there are some fields that are improving in Afghanistan and some are not. I read and always read those reports too. First, you have to understand that it will take decades for a country as undeveloped and isolated as Afghanistan to start showing improvement in all aspects of life. The same reports indicate, that since the 2001 U.S intervention, which was the starting point, Women retained their rights to employment and education , Afghani kids are flocking to schools as never before, their economy is showing steady growth, rule of law is slowly but surely asserting, free media is active,,.among others. But yes, opium is a major issue, terrorism and fundamentalism are deeply rooted in the country and instability is a huge threat, but it will take time and effort to eradicate these problems.

RE: gholi

gholi molijoon, I though you like VOA, that is why I had this VOA link for you:

//www.voanews.com/english/2007-11-11-voa11.cf...
(Israeli Police Raid Government Offices in Olmert Corruption Probes)
Also read this one if it doesn't hurt your tiny brain:

//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/war_costs
(Report Puts Hidden War Costs at $1.6T)

RE: Irani Irooni

az id ke entekhab kardi begir ta mozakhrafaati ke neveshti: khar khodeti!

It is truly all a propaganda!

Besides the logical (and fully supported) assumption that some of these Iranian radio stations are just the messengers of the 'Western version of God', we also should point out that the regular media here in the US is 100% worse. And the Americans get brainwashed 100% more than anyone else. Do you know what the current objective of the media/govt/neocons is? It is to slip the words "Iran" or "Iranian" with "Islamofascists", "Islamists", "9/11", and "terrorist" so many times when reporting a story that after a while all the words become interchangeable in people's minds. YES, this is how the media works. This is how Murdoch and all the other neocons run media in the US. Why do you think the same events are reported in so many different ways when comparing the US version with the UK's BBC???? Thoughts of conspiracies are no longer 'out there' or things that we laugh at. Conspiracies have become the norm. I am not a supporter of IRI. And I sure ain't a supporter of this neocon shyster loving govt to bomb or invade Iran. I look for us Iranians to take action in Iran. We can do it ourselves. It may take time, but the return in the long-run for taking our time, is much better than allowing a shyster always-lying, always jippin' country to invade or bomb us.

Tinoush-Niki are a Casmii,

Tinoush-Niki are a Casmii, NIAC bigender pofiooz couple using the laudable custom for a uniform concept of crave for crap.

aguy (bigender niki-tinoush)

aguy (bigender niki-tinoush) koskholi. idiot.

Re: Jamshid

Jamshid says:
“It may help you to remember that conditions in Iran are no different than if Iran was occupied by say Pakistan or Saudi Arabia”

Mr. Jamshid, it may help you to remind you that the above statement might be the result of you not taking your medication. Even the most right wing US or Israeli politicians are decent enough not to make such an unfair statement.

Re: Tinoush

1. I agree that both IRIB and VOA have their own agendas, but so is every other broadcast, be it British, chinese, MEK, Shahi, etc. Note the emphasis on the word "every".

So what do you suggest? Kill all broadcasts in the world? Of course you can't suggest this. It is not possible. What else do you recommend?  Kill most of the broadcasts that are against IRI? That would make you a pro-IRI, which you say you are not. Kill only some of the broadcasts that are against IRI? Then give me a list.

I am aware of VOA's intention. But we Iranians suffer a desease called Imperialistophobia (I just invented this name). We think ANYTHING, ABSOLUTLEY ANYTHING, coming from US or West or Russia JUST HAS TO HURT THE PEOPLE OF IRAN. Well, you are wrong, in some rare cases, it could actually help Iran's cause.

I think IRIB which has TOTAL control of every single broadcast in Iran, has to be balanced with something. Do you agree? Yes or no? If yes, then balanced with what?

Let me tell you something else too. If today, there was a broadcasting by Iranian oppositions people with good and true intentions, say by people similar to Mossadegh and Satar Khan and Amir Kabir, then 90% of their political broadcast would be identical to VOA.

2. Afghanistan is not improving? Compare to what? Has it not improved compared to Taliban? People in Afghanistan today are much better off than they were with Taliban. It may take another decade for Afghanistan to reach equilibrium. What do you want, magic? A snap of a finger and in say 5 years, all is fixed?

You say "Women rights (in afghanistan) is out of the window..." You got to be joking right? Was taliban better you think? In your mind, anything that the US touches must, JUST MUST, become worst, in an absolute, total and complete way. Don't you agree about this comment on you? If you disagree, then list a few things that HAVE improved in Afghanistan... You see? In your mind nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, could have improved in Afghanistan because the US is involved.

As far as the Afghan elections, it was not perfect, but was Taliban more democratic?

Why Iranians should be condemened to hear one sided opinions of IRIB only?

3. See number 1.

4. Yes, I agree. It should be pointed out that both IRIB and VOA are just propoganda and their information cannot be trusted. But one question begs asking: SHOW ME ONE, JUST ONE, IRANIAN WHO DOES NOT ALREADY KNOW THIS. It's like saying that it should be pointed out that Rafsanjani may be corrupt. Really?

5. Must you ask? Haven't you figured it out? I guess not. So here it is. Read the following sequence of items a few times so it becomes etched in your memory:

- The IRI is surpressing, imprisoning, torturing, murdering, raping and stealing from the Iranian people.

- The above is true in a massive scale.

 - Iranians are enraged at the IRI.

- The above is also true in a massive scale.

- When they see anything that has the slightest indication of a pro-IRI tone, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BECOME REACTIVE. Go ask socio psychologists.

- Therefore, knowing the (rightful and justified) present condition of Iranians' feelings, it's the writer's responsibility to direclty make it clear in his article that he is anti-IRI, when he is writing about issues that could (rightfully) become questionable.

- If he forgets to do the above, then he should be prepared for unpleasant answers from readers.

- It may help you to remember that conditions in Iran are no different than if Iran was occupied by say Pakistan or Saudi Arabia.

RE: Well Said JT!

Jamshidi, it seems you are a ‘kAseie aZ Ash dAghtar’, even Karen Hughes (US Undersecretary Of State for Public Diplomacy- a Bushie republican), does not think the US necons are doing well in terms of public opinion (find her interview with NPR). Also regarding the verbose nonsense of your friend JT the ‘Jenius’ (not genius) visit these links, one of them is even from VOA:
Report Puts Hidden War Costs at $1.6T
//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/war_costs
Israeli Police Raid Government Offices in Olmert Corruption Probes
//www.voanews.com/english/2007-11-11-voa11.cf...

Well said JT

You are absolutely right. Those people shed crocodile tears for Iran, while at the same time, they have ALWAYS supported those who hurt the people.

The funny thing is that they are still using the same tired and boring methods of propoganda. THAT IS WHY THE IRI/LEFTIST PROPOGANDA MACHINE IS FAILING LIKE NO OTHER TIMES BEFORE, BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF IRAN.

to Daryush

Dari joon, d jigar joon, avaz nakardi bekooni Rouhollah khoshgeleh?

RE: Dummies

JT:
Mr. genius (with J) with these kinds of news I doubt if anyone is HASOOD of US and Israel:

Report Puts Hidden War Costs at $1.6T
//news.yahoo.com/s/ap/war_costs
Israeli Police Raid Government Offices in Olmert Corruption Probes
//www.voanews.com/english/2007-11-11-voa11.cf...

You ahmagh need go read instead of calling others dummy.