I beg to say that the main premise on which Sadeq Saba's new analysis is built upon is just false.
In his piece about the harsh criticism against Ahmadinejad, published in a newspaper in iran called Jomhoori-e Eslami, he argues that support for Ahmadinejad is diminishing among within the senior leadership of Iran.
That's becoming an increasingly popular theme these days and the way I read it is that the U.S./UK official line against Iran is slightly shifting towards exploiting the remaining limited potentials of Rafsanjanists in breaking the political unity and common will behind the nuclear programme and particularly the decision not to give up on the enrichment.
The British/American alliance has now publicly started to give a louder voice to the Rafsanjanists inside Iran (from Shirin Ebadi to Hassan Rohani) and outside (almost all Democrat-leaning figures such as Abbas Milani and Akbar Ganji) in order to widen the potential differences of opinions among the key decision-making figures and institutions.
So it doesn't matter to Mr. Saba that painting Jomhouri-e Eslami as a newspaper that reflects Khamenei's positions is totally false. One only needs to go back and see during the previous elections and afterwards it has always been Rafsanjani who has enjoyed the full support of the newspaper, not Ahmadinejad.
In this context, it is very predictable to see such attacks from one of Rafsanjani's most faithful media allies. And it's not event the first time Jomhouri-e Eslami is diong this. (See an eariler report from January 2007 for example.)
What is happening in the past few months is that Khamenei is becoming more and more supportive of Ahmadinejad in private and public, at the same time that he keeps his distance with him. So Khamenei supports him more while he also criticised him more. (For instance, read the transcript of his speech for the government cabinet a few months ago.)
Mind you that I didn't vote for Ahmadinejad and I have my criticism of many of his actions and rhetoric. However, I can't close my eyes on such obviously inaccurate and politically-motivated journalism that has shamelessly become so common in the Euro-American media.
Apparently Washington post's Robin Wright has become their role model.
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It's Christmas time! What happened to the generosity of America?
by Hossein Bolandy (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:48 AM PSTI live in Iran and we are fed up with the mullah regime and their criminal thugs.
America:
Please send your war planes, your army, and start bombing. Please please please get rid of these bsatards.
Thank you America.
Hoder keep up the good job
by Bahram the Iranian (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:33 AM PSTYour articles are getting published almost every time the site gets updated. This is the sign of change in Iranian diaspora in USA and the rest of western world. The real Iranians living aborad who love their land are weaking up to new world order where Iran has found its high position to be dominiting power in ME and persian gulf region.There still mko members and seperatists and criminals , drug dealers and persian gangs(what a mockery of the name,what a shame)we see them posiening our society including cyberworld.Dear Hoder dont let pepole like Jamshid who have rotten over the years in the west and who have no value and nothing to respect or be respected for distract you from the good job.
IRI will fall: Iranians must unite on:
by :-) - (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:19 AM PSTIRI will fall soon: Iranians should unite on these: 1) Secular, 2) Republic, 3) Freedom, 4) and Human Rights
The lesson we all learned: Defend freedom of others so you could have freedom.
RE: Hoder, Q , Anon...777, .. (RE; ObZerter)
by Anonym777.5 (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 09:42 AM PSTmy crazy friend, ObZerter, God has blessed America and the world by giving many failures to the Bush-Neocon/AIPAC gang. Good descent Americans will prevail, and will get rid of these neo-crazies (As famously outspoken conservative, Pat Buchanan calls them).
Upcomming IR election game and its agents outside....
by Antibullshit (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 09:09 AM PST1. After comrade Putin's trip to Iran the western camp has substiantially been weakened. This trip resulted in departure of Larijani one of regime's British boys.
2. The people of Iran have seen Rafsanjani and his gang in action for the past 28 years and it is an old movie that they dont care to watch again and again.
3. The IR regime has dumped many of its intellectual sounding rejects in the west to keep the propaganda machine going.
4. Reading writings of people like Hoder and others one would think that we should always be caught in between the alternatives that the regime offers us. The good camp(Rafsanjani) the evil camp (Ahmadinejad). Both are the right and the left hand of the system that have been suffocating our country for the last 28 years.
5. As one of the comments in Farsi says the regime is at its end and it is a matter of time that it will melt in the abyss of history.
Hoder, Q , Anon...777, and the rest of the
by Observer (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 08:39 AM PSTIslamic Republic outlaw agents were trained in the same Tavileh and consumed from the same Tubreh! That's why they regurgitate the same Tapaleh time and time again!?
It's the patriotic duty of any true Iranian-American to identify, report to the authority, and prepare these assholes for a one-way trip to the Guantanamo facilities!
Once American and Israeli forces liberate Iran from these barbaric criminals, we will make sure to convert Khomeini's grave site into a similar facility to Guantanamo and Abbu- Graib to interrogate agents such as Hoder, Q, and the rest of the criminals!
God Bless America
MEDIA..........in West and in IRI
by Faribors Maleknasri M.D. (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 08:29 AM PSTjust the day before yesterday one could read a message in a western newspaper.with large letters written it said: THE CHIEF OF IRANIAN ATOMKOMMISSION HAS RETIORED.In the article then it was announced the secretary of the former chief of iranian.....has retired.
As far as I can make me an idea: the western media are supported deeply by thier govenments and if a young journalist does not understand the matter he can not learn the profession and get a job in the media. In IRI are many journalists who repeat just the words which are said allready by westerns or will be told by them. Now how should one decide about these elements? Can they ever demand to be a freind of iranian nation? the exampkle of have mentioned is a simple one. these examples can be read day by day in the western media.
the next obvious difference between iranian and western media is: In iranian media I have never read a word like: the westerns educate thier females like whoors, they are supposed to run arround half nacked. wants some female wear an scarf so she counts as nothing in the public and likewise critisism about westerns. But the western media - they are about to get sick because some where in the world thousands of miles away from thier home has happend an Trainaccident - lock, stock and barrel report DAYS only about this accident. as far as I can see: the only aim is they must they have to do so in order to deviate the sougghts from the catastrofal reality at home. and that can only be according to governmental order. You see that is the difference. and of course many many others. I think it is better for me to come to an end now. because in "IRANIAN" nothing is sacred . But there are things which are even less sacred. they are not supposed to be mentioned. and if some one naiv and innocent as me ever dares to do so he can be sure that a rain of "nice words" will fall upon him. Greeting
REPLY : MUST BE BOMBED................
by Faribors Maleknasri M.D. (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 08:05 AM PSTand that should be a removing by surgery? excuse me but can it be that bombing away is rather a method of "chemical therapy"? I agree with you that the first appropriate therapy method of a cancer is the surgury. If israel would be able to perform an surgical operation is the most doubtfull afair. since in the 6-days battle an iranian was the adviser surgeon of israeli army. After the Islamic revolution he had to go to jail. not because of his "helpings and humanities". But because of kriminalities he had done. In jail in tehran he got the most modern equipments of his profession and could operate and help many ills. he was also authorised to teach other Doctors to get an specialist and superspecialists in the profession. He was an eccelent surgeon. He is since long dead. he died On natural death in an high age. Now my friend: How will isreal perform his surgical operation without iranian advisor? As you see the situation is not an easy as it seems to be while we sit on a comfortable Canappee`. We must also take into account that israel was not even able to get finish with a weak and little country as beloved Lebanon. Wouldnt be an act of letting to duel its rear end with cows Horn for israel if it behaved respectless against IRI? I think better we are aware and look at the things from all sides bevore we start gettin imperative like: This cancer must........! So please! I think it is better for me to come to an end now. because nothing is sacred in "IRANIAN". But there are things which are even less sacred. they are not supposed to be mentioned. If some one dares to do that well - you know it better - then "nice words" rain upon him. Greeting
RE: Israel turned the Southern Lebanon,...
by Anonym777 (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 08:03 AM PSTSalam Zimmerman, it is great, this time you wrote a few more sentences instead of boring us with your usual slogans. As you know logical supporters of Israel in the US (such as George Sosros) and even many logical Israelis (e.g. Efraim Halevy the former head of Mossad)
have reached the conclusion that US and Israel need to coexist with Iran instead of trying to destroy it. See Washington post article on Halevy:
//www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...
Regarding Hezbollah, as you remember even many Israelis have expressed their disagreement with last year's attack. It was an experiment that was conducted with US neocon's approval and perhaps encouragement. Among the objectives was to test effectiveness of "shock and awe aerial attack" ... (Seymour Hersh has a good article about that). Anyway as you know it was a failure. Last week US NPR reported that Hezbollah is now stronger than before the attack, politically and militarily.
اگر تو بروی با
Anonymous1234 (not verified)Sun Nov 25, 2007 07:38 AM PST
اگر تو بروی با دقت کتاب تاریخ انقلاب فرانسه را بخوانی با
گروهی تند رو به نام جاکوبن ها که باعثان و بانیان کشتار
وحشتناک گیوتین در فرانسه بودند روبرو خواهی شد اگر
از روز نخست کلمات اسلامی را کنار بذاری عملکرد و راهی
که تندروان ما رفته اند عین هم است تا روزی که کله که میکرد
دانتون
روبسپیر سنت ژوست و خیلی های دیگر به هم افتادند
درست به شکلی که اکنون بین حمق الله و رفسنجانی بهم
افتادن حادث شده
با این عمل که روبسپیر تند روی کرد و دستور زدن گردن دانتون
و سنت ژوست را داد انقلاب فرانسه پایان یافت زیرا این نیمه
سر که خود روبسپیر بود دیگر پوسیده و با یک لگد به زمین
افتاد
ما همین پروسه را با اینان طی خواهیم کرد
نه اینان قادر به بخیه این کله از وسط شقه هستند دیگر و نه
شرایط جهانی این اجازه را به آنان میدهد
کارشان تمام شده است و این کش و قوس ها فعلا وقت گذرانی
است و حقیقتش را بخواهی اینان راهی هم ندارند
مرگ رژیم جمهوری اسلامی در ایران یک قطعیت است تاریخ این
را میگوید من نمیگویم ...................
//nanazola2.blogspot.com/
HODER......................& what he deserves
by Faribors Maleknasri M.D. (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 07:36 AM PSTPlease: do not want poeple do jobs, which are just impossible to be performed. not only for them, but for no body and at all. so again in this case it must be said: MISSION IMPOSSIBLE as for graet satan to act respectless against IRI. the order which Mr Hoder gets to perform is an example for the matter which bothers since long time in "IRANIAN". On the one side is nothing sacred. on many many other sides one notices things which are even less sacred. they are not supposed to be mentioned. and if then rains lot of orders upon them who dare. like the one which Mr/Miss/Mrs Hoder has got. Greeting
i think mr tahri there is a
by babak123 (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 05:33 AM PSTi think mr tahri there is a lot of mix up in this site regarding pro-iranain and pro government. i think there is a lot of people on this site who are just anti iranian, point blank. they are even happy to see the destruction of iran beacuse of their dislike of mullah. the other who are always get a lot of swear is the people who support iran in their challenge agaist the opponent. i think the instibilty in middle east cause a lot of iranian who do not like the regime actually support it. beacuse the other side of the coin is chaos. you can disagree with me. but personally i preffer ahamdinejad to iraq and afghanisatn without thinking. and i have to mention i am not even a moslem.
R.Baback123
by Taheri (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 05:06 AM PSTThis is the point, this Zimmerman character might only exist as a virtual but frustrated reader to pro-IRI posts on this site.
Look at this Homer's article, defending the most fascist and hateful personality of the regime, Ahmadinejad. Is this for you normal?
Hoder's lasr article about Ebadi was published with admiration in Keyhan by Hossein Sharitmadarti, an Evin torturer and Khamenei's adviser.
This Hoder is psychologically disturbed to defend such people, if not he is one of the few IRI's writers on this site.
How can readers blame this Zimmerman guy while all other Islamo-fascists multiply their propaganda materials?
Zimmerman articles does not
by babak123 (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 04:50 AM PSTZimmerman articles does not have any logic, he is just a dumb guy. why we sould watse time on a guy who just knows israel gone bomb iran. well if he belive it, well good for him. there is nothing logical about this guy.
Zimmerman's case
by Taheri (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 04:18 AM PSTThis Zimmerman guy may have a logic which must be tackled by the editor and other pro IRI writers and commentatotrs of this site: if defending Islamo-fascism is allowed on this site, who can convince readers that other forms of fascism are banned!?
Hoder isTraitor.
by Dariushagha (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 02:53 AM PSTYou hoder, nothing you say is important.nothing!!!
Go suck khamenie's dick. that is what u deserve for dinner.
guys leave zimmerman alone,
by babak123 (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 02:49 AM PSTguys leave zimmerman alone, he is just a looser. only thing he knows is typing " bomb iran" well let him screm his ass off. the fact is israel can not even handle hamas,let alone hizballuah. as far as ahmadinegad popularity , i think people are unhappy with inflation. but i think he stil got spporter in small cities. i think this presidentail election would be very intersting. left and democrat vs conservative. i realy can not predict the result.
Arezou, I think you are right: Zimmerman=Shaloam=Iranian loser
by Q on Sun Nov 25, 2007 02:22 AM PSTI didn't think he was really Israeli for a second. He doesn't even know the first things about Judaism, his lingo is all wrong... this is just another Iranian fascist with an inferiority complex doing a piss-poor immitation out of sheer cowardice. When will these assholes learn?
They sure are amusing though! "Lord Moses" LOL!!!
Re: Hoder
by jamshid on Sun Nov 25, 2007 01:36 AM PSTHoder, are you heeding my advice? Are you getting in shape? The labor camps are around the corner and your foreign citizenship won't help you either.
Hoder's Commentaries in khamenei's Kayhan!
by Amir Shahsavan (not verified) on Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:24 AM PSTIt's now quite obvious where Hoder gets his lines from. Hoder is firmly in the camp of Hossein Shariatmadari (Kayhan's Chief Editor & ex-interrogator at Evin). Please see below link:
//www.kayhannews.ir/860904/2.htm#other209
To Zimmie
by mehran (not verified) on Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:09 PM PSTGo suck your thumb you little useless dirt bag.
Israel turned the Southern Lebanon,...
by David Zimmerman (not verified) on Sat Nov 24, 2007 07:17 PM PSTwhere the Hezbollah terrorists backed by Iran, into a shithole! The Hezbollahs whose infrastructure was paid and built by the Islamic Regime received a total devastation. Thanks to the dumb mullahs for paying for the Hezbollahs. The mullahs keep building it for them and Israel keeps bombing it for them! In this deal, Israel gets rich ($$$$$$), the Iranians get poor, and the Hezbollahs get *vcked!? Win-lose-lose situation! God bless Israel. And why not!?
By the grace of Lord Moses, Israel will bomb the nuclear sites in the Islamic Republic soon. As usual, the Russians build the nuclear sites for the mullahs, and Israelis destroy them for Americans! Again, America and Israel win, Russia and Islamic Republic lose!? God Bless America and why not!?
RE: David Zimmerman
by Shaboon (not verified) on Sat Nov 24, 2007 06:55 PM PSTYou guys could not handle bunch of rag tag Hezbollah Army. What are you gioing to do about the mighty Iranians?
تو خیلی وقته که بازی رو باختی!
مرگ بر جمهوری اسلامی (not verified)Sat Nov 24, 2007 06:43 PM PST
هودر = حسین شریعتمداری
to: Zimmerman/aka Shalom Goldman - Israel should just but out
by Arezu (not verified) on Sat Nov 24, 2007 02:31 PM PSTMr. Zimmerman you seem to be the same person also using the name Shalom Goldman, how many times have you heard this from Iranians just but out of our business and go clean your own house in Israel and stop your country's continuous provocation in targeting our country.
Just a little reminder to you and your countrymen: I’ll remind you of your age-long tradition of friendship with Iran. Two thousand years ago, a picture of the Iranian capital city Susa was presented on the Eastern gate of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. Mishna (Berakoth 9) called for being especially careful towards it: “never show disrespect to the Eastern gate!” According to Rambam, this was done so that they would have the fear of the king of Persia upon them. This tradition is worth remembering and carefully preserving.
Shame be on you and any Jews or Israelis who wish to harm Iran and the Iranian people.
David Zimmerman
by NR (not verified) on Sat Nov 24, 2007 02:05 PM PSTYou Israel worshippers are absolutely carzy. I hope you know that. You have turned into the Nazis that taunted you once. You turned into them. Nazis have captured your souls. You are them.
Is Jomhuri_Eslami an American supported newspaper?
by Shahla HossainBabai (not verified) on Sat Nov 24, 2007 01:34 PM PSTWhat do you think Hossain? It is obvious to me that Rafsanjani is an American stooge. What do you know about that paper?
Thanks,
Shahla
Good analysis from someone who knows it best.
by Ahmad Bahai (not verified) on Sat Nov 24, 2007 01:32 PM PSTThanks Hossain. It is great that you are ignoring membership of "$75M Club" and the israelis stooges. Great analysis.
regards,
A/ B/
Too much right, wrong!!!
by sendeh (not verified) on Sat Nov 24, 2007 01:14 PM PSThow old are you little shit?
don't you think you have to change your diper first
before eating GOH e ZIADI?
you have a very weird shit in your head.
why don't you tell us who is feeding you?
it's sad that we iranians have to see you ANTAR
as a political analist!
any BACHEH JAGHI e KOONNASHOUR is now SIASI!
why don't you fuck yourself and get lost?
How would you rate Jahanshah's tolerance?
by Farhad Radmehrian (not verified) on Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:54 PM PSTDear Hossein agha,
Now that apparently multiple articles from you are being published by Jahanshah, how would you rate him? Would you still say that he is a paid Rafsanjanist, as you have said before? May be JJ is getting paid by IRI now, if he is publishing your articles back to back? Hmmm...we're confused! Who is paid by whom? You never know!!!