WAR

lack of alternative proposals by NIAC

Titra jaan, I believe there is a lack of alernative proposals from NIAC. If NIAC does not war, if it does not want Sepah designated as a terrorist group, and if it doesn't want sanctions, what is it that it wants? Whatever that may be is not articulated well enough and is not even remotely publicized enou

I know that NIAC wishes for expanded and more effective civic participation by Iranian Americans. I know that it has an anti-discrimination mission. I know that it has fellowship program. All this is great. However, it obviously also wishes to shape the US-Iranian relationship. And I know that you urge diplomacy. All right diplomacy to what end? How is that to my benefit as an American, how is it to my benefit as an Iranian, and how is to my benefit as an Irania-American?

Unprovoked war with Iran is bad for Iranians, Americans, and in particular Iranian Americans, because it is unjust, will lead to tremendous civilian casualties and will cost the US dearly in the long-run. However, just as bad is the tremendous oppression of Iranians by the Islamic Republic. It is bad for Iranians, it is bad for Iranian-Americans and it is bad for Americans in the form of a fascist militant regime that seeks to harm the US.

So what is your proposals and actions for the latter?

For example, where is NIAC activity in such ideas as this:

//iranian.com/main/2008/out-question

Where is NIAC's activity on pressing for US asking the Islamic Republic for greater freedom and respect for human rights instead?

نه جنگ نه تحريم اقتصادي تنها تحريم سياسي تمامي سران درجه اول ,دو

زيادم سخت نگيريد 

بي خيال اين ان دماغ.. رژيم اشغالگر عربي

خودش خشک ميشه ميفته  !

بريد پولها تونو از امام اباما پس بگيريد

Absolutly no need for war or petro sanctions..btw I,m for petro sanctions in case of mass murder & genocide by mullahs. Just sanction the  top 15000 Khalifate henchmen from Khamenei all the way down to petty Ali asghar Geshtapos, middle executives of various fields..from foreign office to oil,propaganda,pasdars,theoricians(like Abbasi)....etc..You will expose them to Iranians inside , control their movements and the money they steal and move outside Iran..especialy Arab Emarate. This will have both psychological & economical effect on middle executives who in comfort of   anonymousity  strenghten the occupation .that will truly hurt the ones  who deserve it ,,not the average oppressed,helpless mom&pop... 

anything else is BS

نه جنگ نه تحريم اقتصادي تنها تحريم سياسي تمامي سران درجه اول ,دوم و سوم

BK’s little help!

BK, what do you mean by “little help from outside”?
If that little help is as little as harmless, it’s ineffective. But if it is about 5000 hit points (as Americans are planed for, plus the other consequences of such massive bombing) then there would be no Iran being able “to move forward to other issues” as you say. Watch Iraq.
You talk about Afghanistan. That “little help from outside” only created The Opium Republic of Afghanistan, and look; Taliban is back!
Other than that, we are not in competition to see who suffered more during last 30 years. This kind of thinking is in our Iranian heritage of martyrdom and grief and we should get rid of it. I will not sit here and talk about my suffering. COMFORTABLE YOU SAID?

To Bijan A M

What bothers me the most in when people just create their own rules about international politics! You say that the Iranian government has "lost its right" to nuclear technology!! According to what norm, what law, what treaty are making such an absurd claim?!!!!

Why is it that Israel can just REFUSE to join the NPT and subject itself to ANY kind of inspections but Iran does not have the right to even have nuclear technology?!!! Israel is the country that might one day drop one of its nuclear bombs on your family and friends head in Iran and turn them into ashes! Do you get that??!! The U.S FABRICATED evidence and LIED to the entire world and invaded Iraq and killed hundreds of thousands of people!! And now the U.S and Israel are telling the same lies about Iran that they told about Iraq and threatening it on daily basis with military maneuvers, economical sanctions and now a naval blockade . Do you get that or not?!! These are the countries who have the nerves to claim the moral authority to ban Iran from having nuclear technology.

Why do some people see everything black and white?! Can't you at the same time be against these unfair and dangerous practices by foreign powers against your country AND also oppose the I.R?!!

Salar: just so you understand you are PRO WAR

declaration of war right here.

So Iranians in IRAN much like the northern alliance in Afghanistan could use a bit of help. I know as well as anybody else that IF westerners come to our aid they are doing it for their own interests BUT as long as the intersection of our interests is removal of the mullah regime, that would be enough for people of iran for now,

Why do you people keep denying that you want war? That is what you want.

You should just be honest about it and don't make stupid points like urging for peace will bring war in Iran.

Best way to avert war

The best and most likely way a possible war against Iran can be avoided:

Mr. Ahmadinejad gives a press conference to the international press and very clearly and without any ambiguity whatsoever states that:

"1- Iran, while totally justified in pursuing a civilian nuclear program under the provisions of the NPT, will allow full and unconditional access to the IAEA to inspect its nuclear facilities and it is prepared to suspend enrichment of uranium until it is given the all clear by the IAEA.

2- Iran, while critical of Israel's actions towards the Palestinians, recognizes that Israelis have right to live in peace and security in their own country alongside a country for the Palestinians. Also that Iran will NEVER launch an attack on Israel or any other country and will only use force in self-defence, i.e. in response to an attack on Iran."

If Mr. Ahmadinejad and his fellow IRI bigwigs really cared for the welfare of the Iranian people, then he would do this and remove the threat of war from a nation that is already suffering greatly as it is.

Have our friends in NIAC, so assiduous in lobbying the US to change course towards, ever been on record urging the regime in Tehran to do this? ......Ever?

Mammad: Listen! People of iran can use a bit of help

You had a good conclusion but Iranian within iran cannot overthrow the regime by their own. You have been living outside iran for too long. Were you there in 18 tir 1378, were you there in 1 tir 1382? I don’t think so. Students, workers, teachers, bus drivers, women are risking their lives everyday and many lose theirs in the process going against the blood thirsty regime. The sheer savagery and repression shown by the mullah regime is unmatched by no body except maybe Taliban. Good thing that you mentioned Afghanistan, were northern alliance capable of overthrowing the Taliban regime even when a leader like ahmand shah masoud was trying its best with all their experience and capability conducting armed resistance? Iranians don’t even have that, and mullah regime has much much more resources than Taliban. The Iranians outside the country cannot help either since 400 of our dissident leaders were murdered by assassins from the regime and no more viable leadership has emerged ever since. So Iranians in IRAN much like the northern alliance in Afghanistan could use a bit of help. I know as well as anybody else that IF westerners come to our aid they are doing it for their own interests BUT as long as the intersection of our interests is removal of the mullah regime, that would be enough for people of iran for now, the rest is up to them and give them enough breathing room to move forward to other issues. One important issue is that US military and troops are stretched and most probably the extent of their involvements will be much like Afghanistan, only aerial and very few special ops on the ground at most. This gives our people a historical chance to remove the tyranny of mullah regime and take control quickly without any occupation, the rest is up to all of us Iranians. Those comfortably living abroad and have no intention to go back with or without mullah regime have other interests and agenda to push and we need not to follow their prescription.

Thank you Mammad

You said exactly what my scattered thoughts would have said.     

Warmongers: Listen

1. NIAC has never ever claimed that its goal or mandate is fighting with the IRI, or help to overthrow it, or help to expose it, etc. Its goal and mandate, as it has explicitly declared, is creating a better understanding between the Iranian community in the US and the American public. It has made  no other claim. Disagree with the goal; fine. But, an organization has explicitly stated its goal and is pursuing its goal.

Better understanding between the people of the two countries will not be created, unless there is no war. In a war, or war-like atmosphere, there cannot be any better understanding. Therefore, in my opinion, it is totally legitimate for the NIAC to pursue, within the context of its declared goal, a policy that makes people aware of the dangers of a war on Iran.

You want to call NIAC a lobby for the IRI? Prove it. But, suppose it is. Then, consider NIAC as a counterweight to AIPAC, which is doing everything it can to start a war with Iran.  Why is it that it is legitimate for one lobby to pursue war, but not for another lobby to try to prevent war? This is absurd. It defies any rationale or logic, to say the least.

So, who do you side with? I'll take NIAC in less than a blink any time. First, Iran must be protected from outside world, so that its government can be overthrown.

In addition, military attacks on Iran will only destroy the country, but will not overthrow the IRI. Anybody who thinks otherwise is living in a parallel universe, disconnected from the realities of our universe.

2. Despite all the claims made about the threat of the IRI to the oregion, it is, at least at this stage, no threat. US forces will overwhelm Sepah and Basij in any confrontation. Iran's air force belongs to museums. Its navy consists of several hundreds speed boats, plus a few warships that can be easily destroyed, just as the US destroyed it in 1988.

One may argue that Iran is developing ballistic missiles. Such missiles become offensive weapons only if the nation that possesses them has the ability to project power. That means, once you attack a nation with ballistic missiles, you can also send your air force there, or army there. But Iran has no such ability, and will not have, ever. Thus, such missiles for Iran are defensive weapons.

One may argue that the IRI helping Hamas and Hezbollah. True, but, none of them is a puppet of Iran. Both have their own agenda. None has any regional ambitions.

Hamas' only goal is to recover the historical Palestine, which is unrealistic, but it is what it is. It has never ever carried out any operations outside that region. Not even the US has accused it of doing such things. It has committed many terrorist operations for sure, but at least part of the reason is what Israel has done to Palestinians.

The same with Hezbollah. It wants to play an important role in Lebanon. Once Israel and Syria make peace, and the status of the Shaba farms is cleared, Hezbollah will lose all pretence to fighting for Lebanon. Then, we will see what happens to Lebanon.

In addition, the US knows full well that Saudi Arabia and wealthy Arabs help Hamas with cash amounts far larger than whatever IRI pays them, but for the obvious reason the US is silent about them.

 3. Comparing IRI with the Nazis is ridiculous. I have explained this in a separate article posted last October in another site. Germany of 1938 had the most powerful war machine in the world. It was backed by huge industrial capacity and sophisticated technology, and a large army of first-rate scientists. People like Werner Heisenberg, the father of quantum mechanics and a Nobel Laureate, though no Nazi, worked for the regime out of their patriotism. The regime had an ultra charismatic leader in Adolf Hitler. The culture of Germany was, and still is to a large extent, such that its population would follow their leaders almost blindly.

Now, I ask, which one of these attributes do you see in IRI or Iranian people?

4. Germany posed the biggest threat to Europe, and through its ally Japan, to the rest of the world. In fact, Germany had conquered Europe. Iran could not conquer Afghanistan, even if it wanted to.

5. Say what you want about Khatami, but during his presidency Iran helped the US to overthrow Taliban. It also helped Hamid Karzai to form the National Unity Government. Even US representative, James Dobbins, acknowledged that without Iran there would not have been that NU government.

Iran also made a comprehensive proposal to the US in May 2003 to negotiate all the issues, including

(a) recognition of Israel within its pre-1967 war borders.

(b) Ending all aids to Hamas and Hezbollah.

(c) Putting tight restrictions on its nuclear program, giving up its rights under the NPT.

But, hey, this was May 2003, when Bush had declared "the end of all major combat operations" in Iraq, and had declared victory. He thought that he could overthrow the mullahs easily too! 

6. Iran has not violated the NPT, and has been found only in six minor breaches of its Safeguard Agreement with the IAEA. All the breaches have been resolved now, to the IAEA satisfaction, and the IAEA has declared the breaches not to "further a military purpose." The IAEA has certified time and again that there is no evidence of a weaponization program.

I know people like FK would scream that the IAEA has said this or that. But, as ElBaradei has said many times, "the IAEA deals with physical facts on the ground;" that, "the IAEA is not in the business of reading people's mind," and "the IAEA does not deal with intentions" (all exact quotes).

But, suppose that Iran had, in fact, violated the NPT. There is absolutely not even a single word in the NPT that says that, if a country violates NPT, it has automatically given up its right to nuclear technology. We cannot decide on our own who has the rights or who does not: The "referee" is not

(a) Bush-Cheney cabal;

(b) Ayatollah Khamenei-Ahmadinejad, and their group;

(c) Israel;

(d) Europe, or

(e) all those who have transformed their hatred of the IRI, which is completely justified, to hatred of Iran and its rights under international laws.

THE REFEREE IS ONLY THE IAEA.

Summary:

The IRI has committed too many crimes, which totally justifies its overthrow. But, that must be done by Iranians living in Iran. It is an internal matter for Iranians, not anyone else, regardless of how good-intentioned they are. The method of overthrow, or at least deep and lasting changes, must also be picked by Iranians living in Iran.

Mammad

Fred, I agree on one point you are raising.

NIAC/CASMII, two organizations that I admire for their efforts to prevent yet another right wing Zionist-inspired bloodshed in the ME - this time in Iran - must try their best to "apply equal force" on the Islamic republic. Although I am under no illusions that the IRI guys don't give a rat's ass to such comments. I disagree with your characterizing Iran's nuclear program as "illegal full cycle nuclear activities in direct contravention of international treaties...". That's where you start going off the chart and into the slippery slope of utter claptrap. I call your comments claptrap because you did not point to a single "international treaty" nor a single clause in a treaty that Iran has signed that prohibits Iran from engaging in a nuclear program, full-cycle or not, as long as it is not aimed at making nuclear weapons - the fact that ALL Iran's enemies are armed with nukes aimed at every major city in Iran has somehow escaped your attention for reasons unknown to this reader(may be you simply don't care). Also you conveniently leave out the fact that there has be not a SHRED of evidence that Iran is indeed manufacturing nukes despite the fact Iran's nuclear program is THE MOST heavily monitored and inspected in the world, while rogue and dangerous countries like Israel and Pakistan are being left to their own "devices"! You really show your obfuscating side when you claim "the world" is scared stiff of Iran! Your world may consist of a couple of Iran's enemies hellbent to destroy Iran and its achievement, not just the mullahs and their regime. You again show how naive you are by thinking the Democrats will not attack Iran. May I remind you the ALL Dems except very few singed on the notorious resolution that gave a blank check to GW to attack Iran? If you missed that point, please Google it you may be enlightened.
As for the negotiations that have been going on, let's not forget that Iran DID suspend its nuclear program for a long time and it had to end it because the European negotiators could not "deliver" the US which is the main antagonist here with its finger on the trigger. That was not such a long time ago to have escaped your attention, was it. BTW, may I point out the fact when you use words like "messianic" and "the whole world" is scared of Iran, you're actually using AIPAC's talking points.

Mr Parsi what else could we do?

Give us a list of things that we can do to show our opposition in an effective way. My congress man is not on the list yet but I did send him an email and asked him not to support "H.Con.Res.362"
As usual a bunch of haters and warmongers have crowded the response line to your article. They'll do their best to intrrupt the flow of information for their petty causes. Tell us specifically what else is there for us to do.

Farhad Kashani

Spot on. Unfortunately organizations like NIAC which suppose to be the voice of Iranians has disappointed many by ignoring the human rights and terrorism committed by IRI. Their actions and rhetoric has made it clear to many that they may not be an IRI agent but def an IRI apologist who believe in reform from within. I'm totally against military intervention by outsiders however I believe that with their prestige they can help to unite the oppositions.

A voice from Iran: Are we less than the French or Italians?

The history speaks for itself. When the Fascist Mussoulini was ruling Italy in the Axis of Evil with Adolf Hitler, Allied forces, invaded and bombed Italy, Greece, France and many European countries that were under the occupation OR IN ALLIANCE with the Nazi Germany. How come it was an act patriotic quality to rout Nazis and their local governments out of the European soil but to do the same to the Fascist Islamic regime is considered as an act of treason? Treason to who? Are we less civilized than the French or Italians who actively cooperated with the Allied forces to free their countries? Or do we still want to have the IRI to rule over us. Trita Parsi and NIAC/CASMII members don't bother themselves with the hellish life which millions of Iranian go through day and night. They don't live in Iran. But there 60-70 millions who do.

True, but...

Yes, but North Korea has also shown, implicitly, how to get concessions from the US: by forcing them into a corner. Speaking of carots and sticks, why not talk about the fact that the IRI facilitated the ousting of Taliban by brining the Northern Alliance on board, as well as Sistani's very moderate positions in Iraq post invasion. The IRI has also helped muzzle Sadr. They were also carots, from the IRI to the US, during Khatami's presidency. And what did they get in return? Their inclusion in the axis of evil which was basicall Bush putting them on notice that you're next. That did a lot to strengthening the Sepah side inside Iran and the eventual presiceny of Ahmadinejad. All said, I believe both the Rohaniat faction and the Sepah faction are willing to take the carot from the US. They want to hang onto power and in spite of appreanaces have no desire for another Karbala. All they are doing is what North Korea has been doing for the last 10 years, jockeying for the best position so that to take as much as they can out of compromise, save face and maintain their newly found leverage as a regional power and power broker. Let's hope they do since if there is a war, naval blockade, "surgical" strike, the only losers will be the Iranian people.

Ali agha, and the rest

Why would any call to sanity bring your blood to such a boil?. There should be a limit to pride and nationalism.  Where is the place of reality in all this logic? With your idealistic perspective you can scream all you want about Iranian rights to nuclear technology. You can call US, Israel or anywhere else, the houses of satan, bloodthirsty, Zionists, fascist,….it will not change the realities. IRI (not Iranian) have lost their right to free access to nuclear technology thru their actions in the past 30 years and more importantly through their declarations.

You know and I know that we Iranians are ingenious enough that if we feel so righteous about our beliefs, we will find a way to prove and promote our ideology even if we have to cheat.

No agency, no international observer, IAEA or otherwise can give the absolute assurance that the IRI will not pursue nuclear weapon. Whether you approve of it or not, the reality is when it comes to matters of existence, Israel would not tolerate even an infinitesimal amount of risk for that possibility.

If IRI is truthful about their peaceful intentions for development of nuclear technology, why such persistence about enrichment on Iranian soil? Why can’t they do just that piece of the process elsewhere and end this fiasco? You think that means falling on their knees in front of the Zionists, don’t you? But, that’s my whole point about pride and nationalism.

Do you think the Iranian masses share the same declaration as IRI in their slogans against US, Israel & the west? It doesn’t take much, on the part of IRI, to tickle the sense of pride in people and excite them beyond rationalism. You are right, this fiasco in fact may have strengthened IRI’s rule. But, you need to jolt people to their rational senses.

If IRI’s stance is truly the voice of majority in Iran in their “untickled” state of emotions, then they have made their choice and are ready to face its consequences. However, if the masses are put to sleep with the sense of national pride (which I believe is the case), then it is the duty of peace activists to wake up (or at least attempt to wake up) the masses to the reality they are facing.

It only took smuggling some cassettes of Khomeinie’s speeches with the support of a few clergies to bring people in millions to the streets to protest. This is not to undermine the peace activists’ effort in their attempts to prevent the hostility, but the reality will suggest such efforts worthless if they don’t attempt to wake up masses that have been tickled to unconsciousness with national pride.  

North Korea blew up the

North Korea blew up the cooling tower at the Yongbyon nuclear reactor as scheduled today, it was more than a photo- op: A brief message from the United States to Iran: Pay attention.

With the package of incentives the U.S. has offered North Korea, combined with the not-so-hidden warning of Israeli military exercises last week over the eastern Mediterranean, Iran is implicitly being told: "Here are the kinds of carrots we have; here are the sticks. Your call. Oh, and by the way, perhaps you've noticed that with Saddam dead and North Korea coming around, you're the last full-fledged member of the axis of evil."

The White House quickly acknowledged North Korea's gesture. It responded by offering to send food, lifting trade restrictions and removing the country from the roster of state sponsors of terrorism.

Iran may not care to hear the message of the past week's actions, though recent defensive statements by higher-ups in the Iranian government suggest those messages are getting through. The Islamic Republic needs to stop warmongering via anti-American mercenaries in the West and the eventual slaughter of Iran.

This is a reminder to Israeli and Americans that more can be accomplished with the right diplomatic tools -- engagement and believable threat -- than can be done with threats, isolation and unilateral action.

Q: You will not get your wish. There will be no war on Iran.

Why ZioNazis hate peace so much? Zion, Fred, Farhad Kashani, etc

Is it because the love to use their F-16I to see what it can do to baby bodies? Do they also enjoy when their own people get blown up to pieces by random rocket attacks? These are probably the kind of people who would go watch bodies after they have been burned by bombs.Why not put some effort towards peace? The Holocaust is OVER! NOBODY gives a damn about you guys. Nobody is trying to annhilate the Jewish people. Stop chanting "Never Again!" Get a life. Become friendly with the rest of the world. Stop making connections only with mafia type characters. Start finding friends among average people.

I really want to know why, too!

Mr. Kashani, the raison d'etre of groups like NIAC is to protect IRAN. Don't you get it? The NIAC and its twin brother CASMII is here to condamn the "crimes" of the USA and Isreal. Period.

See, the likes of you and me are a little bit "dense" when it comes to understanding how important the patriotic mission of the NIAC is: to "save" IRAN from harm; that is the main reaosn why these "patriotic" entities with "hundreds of thosands" of thir supporters in Washington, D.C., and to say, ehm, humm, aaaw, what!!! "le me tink," shushhh, may be "half a miliion" Iranian American in the USA, so gloriously have mushroomed.

Please, if you dare to challenge them, they have every right to take you to court. Which court? The same American court that has recognized all kind of "evil" and "bad" and "pooh-pooh" rights that this "criminal" America has avialed for these Iranian-American "patriot" groups to promote IRAN (not this pile of GOG, the IRI, but IRAN, got it?).

On the other hand, if you ask them why is it that the people of Iran have to cling to this IRAN (and this time remind them that your IRAN is the subterfuge for the Hellish IRI regime); then they would utilize all these "pooh-pooh" rights that the "Evil" USA has availed to them to take you to court.

In Farsi we call this "bacheh porroo-bazi"!! These are political "bacheh-poroos" who live happily ever after in this "Evil" USA, but root for the "Goody-good-akhund-chamoush" whose other name we are supposed to believe is IRAN.

These "bache-porros," if this regime were to be overthrown by our people, will surely change their mantra and this time will start doing another "rozeh-khooni" to the effect that it was they who were the ture patriots who fought against the IRI and thus won the day. As I said, a "bache-porro" does not care for logic in so far as the element of "roo" has not diminished, and mind you, it does not ever diminish.

In the past it was the likes of Houshang Khan and his comrades who did this type of lobbying, and now it is the NIAC to follow suit. I guess we have to suffer until the IRI is overthrown and then, God willing, these "bache-prorros" will find a more honorable profession for themselves and let go of this "poroo-bazi" Amen.

To our beloved moderator: I hope that you would be kind enough not to delete this post as in the past that any time I have challenged this NIAC my posts have been deleted. Afterall, the NIAC is a public entity whose claim is that it represents hundreds of thousands of Iranian-Americans. I guess such a large organization could tolerate few criticism, am I right?

Question for Parsi

First, I would like to say that anyone who supports military attacks against Iran is not a true Iranian, just like the mullahs who are raping Iran from within, subjecting the masses of the Iranian people to a life of despair that forces some of the best educated flee our homeland.
As for people like you, oil-smooth Parsi, who are leading a charmed life outside of Iran, would you mind telling us who is funding you and your group? How come you are so smoothly lobbying for the IRI in a most subtle way? Sure, sure, you package your whole lobbying in the guise of dealing non-violently with the IRI. Why don't you preach some of your peaceful sermons to the vicious Mullahs -- by "Mullahs" I mean all those Islamist villains, be they of the cloth or not.
I get the impression that you and your bunch of money-worshipers are selling yourselves to the IRI and selling the Iranians right along.
Are you a mercenary? If not, why don't you play it even-handed and speak against the horrid ways of the IRI, ranging from destroying the lives of the Iranian people, particularly those of women, and religious minorities such as the Baha'is? You and your pals are raking in a fortuen in businesses with the Mullahs and their companies. You can't say a word against the Mullahs? You lose your lucrative business dealings with them?
So, speak up Parsi. So far you are nothing more than a very cunning oily mouthpiece defender of the most vicious oppressors of my country.
I do all I can to oppose any military attack on my precious homeland while the vicious Mullahs are destroying it piece-by-piece. My people are suffering and paid mercenaries are making sure that they continue to suffer.
Please, Parsi, tell us who you really are. And, please others, do not accuse me of being a Zionist. I am not. If anything, I love Iran excessively and get nothing for it except heartache seeing it degraded and destroyed by a bunch of turbaned thugs, under the banner of Islam.

Thanks Trita

For informing us.  200 cosponsors is a lot.  How many reps are there in total? 435? they are near the 50% mark with a Republican and Democractic mix.

Nancy Pelosi the Speaker is not one of them yet, but Steny Hoyer the Majority whip is signed on.  So they could very well get more cosponsors and if you look at the dates it is a steady stream of reps signing on.

So, is this binding or non-binding? Good news is this is the House, the Senate is usually more rational.  I don't think it'll get passed Senate.  This just doesn't make sense, start a blockade of Strait of Hormuz all by itself?  Why are all these reps voting for it?

Babak Talebi usually you answer some questions, please let us know more about this resolution. It doesn't really make sense and it is new.

Zion

No Iranian wants the I.R to be brought down to its knees in front of the "International community" (aka the U.S and Israel) and accept their illegal "demands"!

There is NO reason whatsoever that Iran should stop its nuclear program when the IAEA and all the American intelligence agencies themselves are clearly stating that Iran's nuclear program is peaceful.

So, instead of insulting our intelligence and trying to convince us that economic sanctions, naval blockades and sanctions on energy and are actually good for us, you better go and pressure your fascist and apartheid state of Israel to get rid of its existing nuclear bombs and take its dirty paws off Iran.

I really like to know what

I really like to know what the NIAC has done to prevent the fascist regime in Iran stopping its war mongering, terrorism inspiring and supporting and clash of civilization fueling, policies and rhetoric, so as Iranians, we don’t have to beg the world everyday or blame the world every day not to attack our country? Does even NIAC believe the regime is at fault at anything? Guys, the NIAC has hijacked the Iranian voice. We need to do something about that. It does not, by far, represent the majority Iranian voice. The world community, including the U.S congress, has an obligation to support the Iranian people’s struggle against this regime. No one is pushing for a war on our people, NIAC knows already that no Iranian will support a war on our people. But NIAC is using that opposition to block any non-military measures by any government, organization and group to weaken the Iranian regime. NIAC thinks Iranians people are not ware of its IRI victimizing and IRI apologizing rhetoric.

Iraq Deja Vu all over again

This is Iraq Deja Vu. With AIPAC pushing congress to go to war. This blockade is only going to strengthen IRI, raise the price of oil, get us into war with Iran and send the US and the world economy into distress. With dollar falling, mortgage crises and world economy in chaos, why is our congress committing treason and voting against America's interests in favor of Israeli interest. I am hoping there are enough decent Jews in America who will stand against AIPAC and do what is is best for America.

AIPAC should really be careful, if they put America's economy into a depression, the pro-israel pendulum will turn and you might find lots of pissed of Americans blaming the Jews.

Crisis Crisis

Corrupted and organized crime groups on both sides benefit and keep the flow of maximum profit into their deep pockets by keeping the crisis going and adding more fuel to it. The $200 and beyond a barrel of oil is the actual target and would be heaven for oil mafia and all their partners in crime. The real victims are the people of iran. It is a lose lose situation for them. On one hand if the blood thirsty Islamic regime seals its eternal existence by becoming nuclear, our country and people will be doomed forever with no hope for the future and their slow, agonizing death in the hands of Islamic repressive regime will be sealed. On the other hand, more sanctions and war cause immediate hardship, destruction and loss of life. Assuming (and this is big assumption and I don’t hear much analysis to explore the possibilities from our political scholars!!) both sides are NOT in it together for maximum profit and this is a real showdown , what would you choose, a slow, agonizing death for you and generations to come in the hands of barbaric Islamic regime (not to mention total obliteration of our country Iran for years and decades to come until we run out of oil and left alone to become Bangladesh and mother Teresa is sent in to feed our dying kids) or a sudden death only for you? Btw this question is for non-aghazadeh only, we already know what your answers are going to be!!! I think our people have answered these question by their actions in the past 150 years with their four revolutions and constant struggle and sacrifice for freedom and justice during all those movements. I don’t think the answer would be much different now.

What is the problem now?

You want to call this whatever you want, the real issue is what are you objecting to? Bombs are not falling, people are not injured and the regime in Iran can't use it to mobilize people... the usual apologetics of our old pals. So what is wrong? The only party who can call this a de facto war is the regime in Iran that is going to be directly hurt. An independent peace activist or a true patriot or whatever has really nothing to object to, This does not even amount to a long and hard sanction on ordinary people. Energy sanction can change the situation in a very short time, and bring this system to its knees in order to accept the will of the international community. It will also leave it weak so it will be forced to give ground to demands inside Iran as well. Are you against any pressure to this system? And what about your arguments as Americans, remember how the argument went? War will harm the interest of America, which you care for so much. How can you say the same about these sanctions?

Finally as others already mentioned,why only pressuring one side, why only the US? Once you have chosen to engage yourself in a international dispute, involving various states, you can't hide behind being solely an american "advocay" group and thus focused only on the American side anymore. You have chosen this path, you have to be at least even-handed in your demands from both sides.
So many questions, no answer what so ever. Fishy. Very fishy.

this IS a back-door declaration of war

In 1968 and 1956 Israel said the closing of the Suez Canal which lies entirely in Egyptian trroritory was as an "act of war" and invaded Egypt "preemptively".

The standard of economic blockade = war was set by the west itself.

This definitly qualifies.

While the resolution (I repeat, non-binding) also includes a specific denial that it authorizes use of American military force - "Whereas nothing in this resolution shall be construed as an authorization of the use of force against Iran" - it has, understandably, led some to believe that it is tantamount to a declaration of war against Iran.
//www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/25/politics...

All the denials say "no force" is authorized but blockading Iran's oil as the triggering event is the same thing.

Don't believe the lies.

daer Zionists: if you like to overthrow IRI, please move to Iran

otherwise, either help stop the war on Iran from the place where it will be launched from,

or get out of the way.

Please.

Thank you Fred

For your voice of sanity and reason. It has always baffled me why groups like NIAC and all the other anti-war activists have focused 100% of their energy lobbying US congress with 0% effort to raise IRI's and the people of Iran's awareness of the consequence of their idiotic stance in this conflict.

Thanks again for your timely post.

Thank You Mr Parsi

When I read about your efforts in sending letters to the congress, I used NIAC website and sent the information out to my mailing list too.

Thanks for staying on top of all the news of activities against Iran and spreading the voice of reason and peace.

Your efforts and the work of NIAC and CASMII is truly appreciated.

IRANdokht

ZioNazi bloodsuckers of Israel

We are watching them prepare to murder again with their beloved (Jewish) fighter jets and illegal nuclear weapons.What a great people!