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Before you take a stance on Obama

Read about his positions and his accomplishments before you defend him so vehemently and take an uninformed position.  He is just another politician saying anything that pleases the public, to get elected.

From the September 24, 2004 edition of the Chicago Tribune:

September 25, 2004

U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama suggested Friday that the United States one day might have to launch surgical missile strikes into Iran and Pakistan to keep extremists from getting control of nuclear bombs.

Obama, a Democratic state senator from the Hyde Park neighborhood, made the remarks during a meeting Friday with the Tribune editorial board. Obama’s Republican opponent, Alan Keyes, was invited to attend the same session but declined.

Iran announced on Tuesday that it has begun converting tons of uranium into gas, a crucial step in making fuel for a nuclear reactor or a nuclear bomb. The International Atomic Energy Agency has called for Iran to suspend all such activities.

Obama said the United States must first address Iran’s attempt to gain nuclear capabilities by going before the United Nations Security Council and lobbying the international community to apply more pressure on Iran to cease nuclear activities. That pressure should come in the form of economic sanctions, he said.

But if those measures fall short, the United States should not rule out military strikes to destroy nuclear production sites in Iran, Obama said.

“The big question is going to be, if Iran is resistant to these pressures, including economic sanctions, which I hope will be imposed if they do not cooperate, at what point are we going to, if any, are we going to take military action?” Obama asked.

Given the continuing war in Iraq, the United States is not in a position to invade Iran, but missile strikes might be a viable option, he said. Obama conceded that such strikes might further strain relations between the U.S. and the Arab world.

“In light of the fact that we’re now in Iraq, with all the problems in terms of perceptions about America that have been created, us launching some missile strikes into Iran is not the optimal position for us to be in,” he said.

“On the other hand, having a radical Muslim theocracy in possession of nuclear weapons is worse. So I guess my instinct would be to err on not having those weapons in the possession of the ruling clerics of Iran. … And I hope it doesn’t get to that point. But realistically, as I watch how this thing has evolved, I’d be surprised if Iran blinked at this point.”

As for Pakistan, Obama said that if President Pervez Musharraf were to lose power in a coup, the United States similarly might have to consider military action in that country to destroy nuclear weapons it already possesses. Musharraf’s troops are battling hundreds of well-armed foreign militants and Pakistani tribesmen in increasingly violent confrontations.

Obama said that violent Islamic extremists are a vastly different brand of foe than was the Soviet Union during the Cold War, and they must be treated differently.

“With the Soviet Union, you did get the sense that they were operating on a model that we could comprehend in terms of, they don’t want to be blown up, we don’t want to be blown up, so you do game theory and calculate ways to contain,” Obama said. “I think there are certain elements within the Islamic world right now that don’t make those same calculations.

“… I think there are elements within Pakistan right now–if Musharraf is overthrown and they took over, I think we would have to consider going in and taking those bombs out, because I don’t think we can make the same assumptions about how they calculate risks.”

A last resort

Obama’s willingness to consider additional military action in the Middle East comes despite his early and vocal opposition to the Iraq war. Obama, however, also has stressed that he is not averse to using military action as a last resort, although he believes that President Bush did not make that case for the Iraq invasion…

Also during the session, Obama said that, if elected, he likely would make the health-care crisis his first priority. He said he would seek to expand the federal program that gives aid to poor children without health coverage, improve the COBRA program to allow for greater portability of coverage, and push for small businesses to receive tax credits to help pay for employee health insurance.

Views on gay marriage

Earlier Friday, Obama clarified his position on gay marriage after several days of criticism from [GOP Senate candidate Alan] Keyes on the issue. Keyes, a vehement opponent of gay marriage who has called homosexuals “selfish hedonists,” charged during a campaign swing Downstate this week that Obama favors gay marriage.

But during a taping of WBBM-AM’s “At Issue,” Obama said that his Christian faith dictates that marriage should be between a man and woman.

“I’m a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman,” Obama said.

Obama said he would not let his religious beliefs dictate the way he approaches public policy. He said he would supports civil unions between gay and lesbian couples, as well as letting individual states determine if marriage between gay and lesbian couples should be legalized.

 “Giving them a set of basic rights would allow them to experience their relationship and live their lives in a way that doesn’t cause discrimination,” Obama said. “I think it is the right balance to strike in this society.” 

re: Daniel La Framboise

I am glad you left a comment here describing Serbian mentality.

So during peace time with Bosnian Muslims you guys went to their homes as guests and ate from their bread and drank their tea and when the war started, you raped their women and murdered them and stole their belongings.

I think we all know about Serbs very well. Thank you for leaving an anti-Islam comment here. You have really helped Muslims and Islam.

Terrorist

The Serbians had it right back in the 90's and as the world is starting to see, all the best of Islam are dead, to start with that Mohammad, I think he wanted to be a Jew and the Jews were smart enough not to let him, thats why he started teaching hatered

re: Babk56 (not verified Iranian)

What am I? I an Iranian who loves Iran. What I don't like is a traitor like you and your Zionist allies.

You want to have Iran back as a pupet of the West? Well as we have a saying:

Beshin ta biyad ahmaghe Khaen

anonym (not verified)

There is an expression in good old parsi which has made just for people like you..boroo dar kooneto bezar...meaning, get lost you idiot.. we know you who you are and what your agenda is. Don't mess with Iranian.

Jim, what the f**k are you talking about?

Who the hell are you and what the fu*k are you trying to say?

Anyone who disagrees with a shit-head like you is a terrorist?

Navydock, Islam appologist

Another Islamic terrorist who supprts Islamic terrorism in Iran.

Irresponsible journalism

This was quite possibly the worst article I've ever read on here. I was planning on voicing my disagreement eloquently, but you, sir, are a tool.

If anyone ever wants a great example of how human rights can be deceptive- look here!

Sir, in your moment of rhetorical machismo- you end up juxtaposing your human rights grievances against a diplomatic pragmatism (which you clearly take to be a sign of naivete and weakness). As if he can either ignore the IRI and not give in (for reasons of keeping the moral high ground maybe? maybe in the hopes of being "strong" will lead to their emminent collapse?)

Obama's stance of having unconditional talks with the IRI may be the last hope of resolving this nuclear standoff without a war. Don't let your dislike of the IRI get in the way of acknowledging the imperative situation that lays before us all.

That being said, and returning to the first point, I think you were really dishonest with yourself in implying that the IRI would somehow kill Obama for his so called apostasy. The apostasy guideline is a measure for them to control and discipline their own populations. To suggest that they would kill Obama is not only absurd, but it plays into the Neo-conservative narratives of an Iran with a nuclear bomb as too irrational (because of their religion) to abide by the rules of MAD (Mutually-assured-destruction) detterent. Indeed, that's what you're implying- that the mullahs are too crazy to be rational and treat Obama like a foreign leader. Not only is this anti-Islamic (and clearly a biggoted view) but its one step away (albeit a slippery slopey step) from saying that Iranians are Irrational. Yet in the domain of rhetoric, rather than the domain of truth and philosophy, your argument helps to reinforce this view of Iranians..

Ultimately, your language is deceptive and conniving...don't start out saying Obama and Ahmadinejad are "muslim brothers" and then finish by saying he might get executed for giving up on his Islam.

Irresponsible journalism

Jahanshah please pay attention

I noticed you deleted 20 posts on your friend, Titra, why do you allow Islamic thugs to insult Mr. Imani? Is that fair? He is our hero, is that how you treat him?

Dear Iranians (Muslim, Christian, ...)

Please do not use the word 'Jew' or 'Jewish' to refer to Zionists. Zionism is a political movement and Judaism is a religion of God.

There are Jewish poeple who are against or neutral to Zionism and some of them are great people. Thank you.

Anybody talked about donkeys?

I have some fresh Yonjeh for all 'Mr' Imani and his supporters.

Please visit the barn.

Obama, Islam and Christianity

Obama is an asset to Islam.

Why would Muslims want to get rid of him.

Louis Farrakhan has endorsed Obama.

And Farrakhan loves Iran.

Iran has diplomatic ties with Castro and Castro's communist Cuba is athiest.

Iran has good ties with China and North Korea... 2 communist countries who have no God.

If Iran can make friends with the Godless communists, it can make friends with the confused Obama.

Re: Has anyone seen my donkey?

ya, he is in the white house, he works as an economic adviser. He is well fed and has a new paloon. Apparently he can communicate well with the main guy there.

Has anyone seen my donkey?

Gentlemen/Gentlewomen (I guess):

I'm serious,

Has anyone seen my donkey?

Mola, on the road

that is not fair Shalomstinky

Shalomstinky, that is not fair. First of all this Imani is one of our own Iranian extremists, secondly some of the most outspoken people against these necon/AIPAC disasters are Jewish liberals such as TV host Keith Olbermann, billionaire Geoge Soros, .....
For example see George Soros' article: //www.nybooks.com/articles/20030 about AIPAC.
This Imani is a monarchofaschist opportunist who happens to think brown nosing right wing neocons and AIPAC will increase his chance of being put in power just like the Muslim MKO which once worked with Saddam and now works with anybody including the Israelis to start a war against Iran.

Shalomstinky, oil you ass

The jews of the world, Isaac Newton, Karl Mrax, Albert Einstine,... are standing in line to f..ck your empty brain, you faggot piece of shit racist Islamofascist IRI lover.
I dare you to show your coward face so I can blow it into pieces, you piece of shit.
You and the likes of you are why someone like Obama is in the race....

Shalomstinky, trun off the light the party is over

I am not a Jew, but I much rather be a jew than a Muslim terrorist. Payback time means you and people like you will be tried in the courts in Iran and if found guilty, Iranian people know what to do with you. It is not up to me, it is up to the people of Iran what to do with you felestenin terrorists.:):) >b>trun off the light the party is over:):):)

Babak56 - Its not nice to make threats online!

Come one jew-boy, just because NO ONE in the world likes your people, and no one has ever liked you for thousands of years, doesn't mean you have to take it out on the muslims. Now go and marry your cousin, jew-boy. jew, jew, jew, jew, jew ... the more you say it, the more it sounds like the noise people make when they throw up. Go and wax your hairy ass jew-boy. Shalom!

Payback time is near

Your allegations are unfounded. You do not even know the meaning of necons..however, he must have hit your nerves. If Mr. Imani is a neocon, your all are Islamic murderers and your hands dripping with the blood of millions of innocent Iranians. So, Islamic terrorists, I have a prediction to make. I do not see a lovely future for your genocide in Iran. Payback time is near..keep on going while you still can.

Pouyan - Amil's ideals are NOT right-winged, they are NEOCON!

There is a big difference. The true Republicans, the ones that haven't been brain-washed by these shyster fucks like Amil or his heros like Kristol, Wolfowitz, Abrams, Perle, Feith, Lieberman, etc; do not agree with this Amil thing.

Christian-right may agree with him now, but that's because they think that Jesus may return and basically take care of the stinky jews ... who knows, that just might be a Blessing in disguise!

And regarding other comments that say to create divisions within Iran by putting the different ethnic groups against each other ... please tell us what good that will do in the long run????? Oh yes, the good will be the instaility that will remain there for 100s of years, which .... is a good enough reason for the US and its MASTER, the shyster, stinky, jew-hole Israel, to maintain military presence in that area.

Go fuck yourselves.

Amil Imani - the shysters of them all, the neocon of them all!

Are you kidding me? You are now resorting to fear to make Obama voters think twice? This shows two things - 1) Hillary is really losing if she and her supporters are resorting to this and that shyster national security commercial; and 2) she is the NEOCONEST of them all, she is no different than McCain, who is no different than Bush, who is and has been the puppet of the shyster neocons ... who have basically destroyed the reputation of the US around the world.

This is a country that provides freedom of religion. Beside the fact that you are incorrectly referring to Obama as a Muslim ... but even if he was, what's it to you? Do you and your fish-eyed fvckin shysters want a "Shoah" for the muslims? I wouldn't be surprised, as you and your stinky and hairy, fish-eyed, schnase faggots, are the most hypocritical people in the world. You make up over 1.2% of the US population, while all other non-Christian religions put together, make up less than 1%. And you shysters are still complaining?

Go and bobble your head and spew out your gibberish somewhere else. Hitler said it well, said it very very well. Those Germans are truly the smart ones! Throughout world history, many others agreed. Amazing why you shysters are hated and spat on almost during every century, by people of different religions and ethnicities for thousands of years. You gotta be doing something wrong! Or you gotta be the stinkiest people in the world!

Imani is a loser extremist Neocon (to Babk56)

Babak56 says: "terrorists in Iran have told you to do is to call non-stop Iranian patriots Zionists"

No Mr. Babak, I did not call Mr. Imani a Zionist. Calling him a Zionist is giving him too much credit. Your newly found monarchofascist prophet, is lobbying and brown nosing anybody including EXTREMIST Zionists but he is not a Zionist.
Just Look at the link that you posted below where he says "The United States and Israel and other democracies have a huge stake in the success of the Iranian people to rid themselves of the Islamic tyranny..... The valiant Iranians need a bit of help...". You are not smart enough to get that but many of us are.
Babak your Mr. Imani, ...., and MKO who advocate direct and indirect military intervention in Iran are terrorists. US, Iran, and the region don't need another fiasco similar to the one in Iraq, whether US gets involved directly at the outset or at a later time. Iranians are and will change IRI at a rate that they set.

Babak 56

I read Mr. Imani's articles and admire his courage and reasons to unmask savage Islam. Still I think he is politically too right and stand for a neocon line in Iran.
I agree with him when fairly criticizing Islam, but I believe the best weapon against an immoral Islam are secular ethics widely at hand.

we don't need to deliberate about .....

We don't need to deliberate about who this ZIONIST MORON called Amil is or how he thinks. He is a moron zionist who sucks bloods of children like zionists do in palestine. He is for death and destruction like his zionist brethren. What else do you want to know about this zionist moron?

Pouyan,

Pouyan,

I do not know Mr. Imani. I have read many articles he has written. In my opinion, he is neither to the right nor to the left. He says what is in his mind. Accusing this man is not fair because you have not read all his articles. It is obvious he loves his motherland and he believes Islam is the root of all evil in Iran. And I agree with him. He has put his life for Iran and you and I know he can be assassinated at any moment. In my opinion, Mr. Imani is another Thomas Pain and time will tell.

Amil Imani

The author is evidently courageous and well educated. His political ideas are closed to right-wing and Christian fundamentalists and hence unpopular. His penchant for his original country can sometimes be influenced by his political ideas.

Anonym7, You have not proved

Anonym7,

You have not proved anything yet. Can you show us where Mr. Imani advocated attacking Iran? Since you are not capable to coherently have dialogue with, and the only thing Islamic terrorists in Iran have told you to do is to call non-stop Iranian patriots Zionists, I tell you this you thug: You terrorists are not worth responding to. I am certain your time will come and you will be executed. Be prepared.

I support Obama's Democratic Nomination

Because with Obama against McCain, the picture is truly Black and White! And only with such a contrast, THE WHITE WINS!

I support Obama's Democratic Nomination

Because with Obama against McCain, the picture is truly Black and White! And only with such a contrast, THE WHITE WINS!

Only a zionist MORON wishes .....

Only a zionist MORON wishes death on a bright, promising carrier, and a gentleman like Obama. Zionsits are blood suckers and I would not be surprised if they are already planning his death and destruction.