On May 27, 2010, the International Society of Iranian Studies (ISIS) will hold its three-day biennial conference in Los Angeles, California. It is jam-packed with interesting panels. Scholars of Iran from around the world will be attending. But this time around there is a controversy brewing. It involves the attendance of a scholar from an Israeli university in the occupied territories. In the past, many scholars from different Israeli universities have attended and given papers at the conference. There has never been an objection. But this time, the matter is different.
Dr. M. Tavakoli Targhi, the current President of ISIS, has made a public statement in this regard in defense of this decision. The fact is that the person who may be attending the conference is from Ariel University of Samaria built in the West Bank, on a land illegally seized by the Israeli government. Its website states that : “As a demonstratively Zionist institution, the University Center has two key requirements: every student must study one course per semester on some aspect of Judaism, Jewish heritage or Land of Israel studies, and the Israeli flag must be displayed in every classroom, laboratory and auditorium on campus.”
There have been numerous petitions to the effect that ISIS should disinvite the scholar. Dozens of scholars from various universities, such as Noam Chomsky, Ervand Abrahamian, Mahmood Mamdani, Mohsen Kadivar, Nayereh Tohidi, and Stan Cohen have signed the petition. The ISIS is an independent entity and one may argue that preventing a scholar from attending the meeting is against any norm. However, the others argue that the person should not attend the panel based upon the location of the said University. Many governments and professors have criticized and boycotted this particular institution.
The institution’s history and its critics
According to a report in the Christian Science Monitor, “the Ariel College, or AUC, was established with a few hundred students in the mid-1990s, and today draws the vast majority of its students from inside Israel proper. Its leadership has ties to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud Party. The decision would make it the ninth university in Israel.”A harsh critic of the Israeli expansion and himself a British/Israeli professor, Haim Bereshit, slams Ehud Barak, suggesting that he “occupies additional territories and declares universities there as well.” “The most serious thing, which should not be seen as insignificant, is the fact that there is an educational institution in occupied territories," he said. "We in the British professors' organization have not waited and have worked even before this happened to include the Ariel College in the 'gray list', which does not allow academic institutions to have any ties with this institution. This is in fact a boycott process, although it is not defined as such due to the complexity of this matter." In 2009, The Spanish Housing Ministry disqualified Ariel University Center of Samaria from competing in the finals of an international competition declaring that "the decision was made by the Spanish government based on the fact that the university is located in occupied territory in the West Bank. The Spanish government is committed to uphold the international agreement under the framework of the European Union and the United Nations regarding this geographical area." Hussam Khader, a Palestinian legislator, said, "This means they consider Ariel and the West Bank as part of Israel.” He said that this proves that Israel has no intention of accepting the two State solution. Assaf Meydani, a lecturer at the Academic College of Tel Aviv-Jaffa’s school of government reiterated that this is a political statement which in essence means “we are here and we are going to stay here.” “It is as if confirming that “we are not afraid to say that we have a university in Judea and Samaria.” (The Biblical term for the West Bank)
Israel’s actions
There is no question that the Israeli government has in the past defied all UN resolutions, has gone ahead with its policy of settlements and has confiscated the land without any repercussions or mercy to the Palestinians. Many peace activists inside Israel are against the policies of their own government. The world can object but it does not matter. Israel does as it pleases. In fact, even when Vice President Joe Biden visited Israel recently, he was greeted with an announcement that more settlements were going to be built in East Jerusalem, a slap to Obama administration’s demand for a halt. Ariel College (now University) was built on Palestinian land in the West Bank. It is on occupied land, but the various governments in Israel and especially the government of Benjamin Netanyahu are not concerned about the fate of the Palestinians. This is true as well for the new mayor of Jerusalem who, according to a report in the NY Times, is trying to build a super park in a residential area of Jerusalem inhabited by its Arab residents, called Al- Boustan. The residents have already objected to this move. The Israeli-Palestinian crisis is an ongoing issue, one which no US administration so far has been able to find a solution or a resolution. In part, it is because Israel does not respect any international laws and acts according to its own volition. This was clearly demonstrated in the recent murder of a Hamas leader in Dubai.
What should ISIS do?
Now ISIS is faced with the most difficult decision. Should ISIS let this scholar attend on behalf of Ariel University or should it ask him to come as an independent scholar? Or should he not be allowed to attend at all? In many instances, scholars who have been critical of the policies of Israel have been harassed, labeled as anti-Semites and driven from their institutions. What should the ISIS do in this regard? Should it take sides? Should ISIS stand by its original decision or should it make this a matter of principle and make a political statement?
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"Jerusalem is really Jewish Land"
by Peter Pan on Fri Mar 19, 2010 07:11 PM PDTSince when is it OK to assign an ethnicity to a geographic location? Using Muslims' approach as a yardstick seems like a step backward in stead of forward.
Jerusalem is really Jewish Land
by Monarchy_Forever on Fri Mar 19, 2010 06:58 PM PDTThe entire basis for muslims to claim Jerusalem is because one night Mohammed dreamt that on a magic carpet he went to Jerusalem and led the prayers over there.
that's it- as far as why Jerusalem is "Islamically" important
That is like saying, Bahaullah had a dream, he flew over to Mecca and led the prayers in Kaaba. So from now on, Mecca belongs to Bahais.
But ofcourse, you can't rationalize with Muslims. If you mention this example they will be quick to remind you that MOhammad was "THE SEAL of the PROPHETS" and a true prophet from GOD. They seem to forget that neither the Jews nor Christian accept MOhammed nor the Quran.
yek mosh adam bi kar wa kos khol
by Monarchy_Forever on Fri Mar 19, 2010 06:47 PM PDTwa kos khol.
this whole controversy is over one hardly known scholar from some unknown university built on some 'far away' i don't give a hoot about land?
Get real and get over it
You know the real reason some Iranians care about Palestinian -Israeli issue?
The real reason is that Iranians in exile are so disunited, they have a hate/competition relation between themselves. They don't call one another and don't get together and bad mouth one another. Their friends are mostly Arabs and Westerners of socialist leanings. So this whole attachment to Palestinian issues is simply because they are beholden to their Arab friends.
Reedam bar rohe Yasser Arafat wa Ariel Sharon.
FYI
by Fariba Amini on Wed Mar 17, 2010 02:15 PM PDTThis is not me, this is a British/Israeli scholar:
LONDON – Israeli-British Professor Haim Bereshit, one of the initiators of the British academic boycott against Israel more than two years ago, had slammed Defense Minister Ehud Barak's decision to recognize the Ariel College as a university.
"There are thousands of professors living in Israel, many of them known worldwide. If they eat this vermin, we will continue to act against the Israeli academia as an agent of the occupation," he told Ynet on Friday.
Scathing Reviews Left warns of global boycott over Ariel U. / Ynet reporters Leftist members of Knesset and Arab parties protest defense minister's decision first published in Ynet to recognize Ariel College as university. Meretz chairman: Hard to find differences between Barak and Netanyahu. Initiative also advocates establishing university in Nazareth Full story"We are deluding ourselves that Israel is a normal country, because in a normal country the defense minister does not deal with university permits, and particularly not in an illegal university in occupied territories," Bereshit argued.
Rent-a-Palestinian
by ConnieBobroff on Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:18 PM PDTThis petition is very handy in diverting attention from the recent holocaust we have had in Persian Studies right here in the US. Good going, guys!
ms. amini, i respect your
by hamsade ghadimi on Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:44 AM PDTms. amini, i respect your humanitarian spirit and i wish there were palestinians out there who cared about iranians as much as you care about them. and i wish they were as vocal as you are. the seemingly arab commenters on this site only like to bang on the drum of khamenei's regime.
is this the only university in the world that is practicing discrimination and should be disallowed in academic discourse with other institutions? or your criterion is not about discrimination and about the location of the university? because it would be odd for organizations to single out a university (as opposed to certain practices by a university) that would bar it from participating in their events.
Let's take deep breath and re-examine the question
by aynak on Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:27 AM PDTAlso ... Pendant Ce Temps en Iran ...
by Darius Kadivar on Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:21 AM PDTChee Begham Deegheh ...
Iranian are Arabs, Arian is a myth created by Zionist
If this is not Nihilism and Self Denial imposed on us Iranians by our own Regime I wonder what is ? ...
The Day Mohsen Kadivar, Hamid Dabashi demand restoring our flag
by Darius Kadivar on Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:17 AM PDTthat is the Shiro Khorsheed Flag to replace the Arab Sickle they are loyal too. I may then and Only then sign their Petition ...
Until Then Personellement Je N'ai Rien à ...
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJvT-s4l8qw
But They are welcome to come and play Golf ... I mean Persian Golf :
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N3SyyTVhIA
Happy Nowrooz Nevertheless !
DK
PS: I know your intentions are good Fariba Jaan I'm Less sure about those who signed the petition !
re;Pan-Ommah lobster flag
by MRX1 on Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:06 AM PDTActualy it is chesapeake bay crab not a maine lobster. Apparently imam omat janeshin imam zaman prefered taste of Crab over the Lobster, which is why you see that symbol on the IRR flag.
You are wrong, Mr (Ms.) Bibi
by Fariba Amini on Wed Mar 17, 2010 09:56 AM PDTMr. Bibi Gol,
Either you don't read what I write or you simply try to ignore it. I never said he should not be allowed to come. And what does a person from an institution built on an illegally seized land has to do with stopping others (past colonizers or present ones) from attending the conference? !! And where are the Dutch colonizing today? Maybe you can inform us, cause I am clueless.
I have no problem with the people of Israel, in fact, this internet journalist as you called me has written several articles on the people of Israel, please go read them. Several attendees at this very conference are my friends who are Israelis (two are of Iranian descent).
You are mixing the issues. The issue is this particular institution. That is all. The scholar in question is welcome to come (of course the final decision is up to ISIS) if his affiliation is not mentioned. In fact, it would be interesting to hear what he has to say, having written on Hojattieh.
The world stopped the South African apartheid regime from its racist policies against the blacks. Israel must stop using force, segregation of an entire population, demonizing them, and overtly defying all international laws. Even, today, their biggest backer, the US is outraged by the recent settlements. Do you believe Israel can go on forever doing what it does?
You are also incorrect on who has signed the petition. if you look at the signatures, half are of Jewish background.
Mr. Kadivar is also wrong. To support the Palestinian people does not mean that one supports the actions of their leaders or their orgs. All we are saying is that this institution and all settlements have been built by way of coercion. intimidation, forcing people out from their homes, their land, and replacing them with "their own people". If this is not apartheid then I don't know what is. Personally, I think it is outrageous. The map of Israel is getting bigger and bigger while there is harldy a place called Palestine.
Let me put it this way, do you agree with a policy of creating more refugees in camps with no future on the horizon for the inhabitants, do you agree with using cluster bombs to say we have might, we can maim and kill and the world can do nothing, do you agree with never coming to terms with an agreement for a two state solution?
BTW, any relations to BIBI? you know Benjamin N. is also called Bibi !
re;Pan-Ommah lobster flag
by SamSamIIII on Wed Mar 17, 2010 06:42 AM PDT:), well it is the flag of choice for Qadesii cyber pimps. ain't it?
Once you go Qadess you become shameless
Once you go Qadessi jaakesheh har naakasi
there I go again..;)
Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia
Dear Ms. Amini, No one
by BibiGol on Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:03 PM PDTDear Ms. Amini,
No one denies the hardship, suppression and oppression of Palestinian people. The building of the new settlements are definitely wrong. I understand these and am against them.
Your point is well taken. So we are talking about occupation. Then why limit ourselves to Israel. Isn't the US now occupying Iraq? Haven't they done as much -- or some -- harm? The issue of the 100,000 Iraqis who have died since the occupation should be addressed. The insulting actions against the women, attacking houses in the middle of the night, killing people because of suspicion should be talked about. Killing and then asking questions? This brutality that is Iraq.
You are 100% correct. Let's ban all Americans (including the Iranians with American citizenship) from this conference. (That is a good half of the conference attendees, but who cares?) It doesn't matter whether or not they agree or agreed with this war. It doesn't matter whether or not they voted for Bush. After all they live in this country that occupies other countries. They are guilty by the virtue of location.
And while we are at it, why not the rest of the world? Why not the Dutch. The two prominent Dutch scholars of Iranian studies, Rudi Matthee and Willem Floor, should be disinvited as well. After all, they belong to a country that still colonizes (read occupies) other countries. No excuses accepted. And the British? Oh yes, they should definitely be disinvited. They are notorious colonialist.
Oh, and the Arabs are claiming that Iranians have "occupied" Arab lands, namely the Tombs and Abu Musa. Should we include Iranians as well?
And while we are on the subject of Arabs, why is "the petition" mostly signed by Arabs? What do they have to do with Iranian studies? Haven't they claimed every important and famous person in Iran (Avicenna, Farabi, Ghazali, are a few)? Furthermore, if they are so concerned with human rights, why don't they object to the American occupation of Iraq and the atrocities there? Why not object to the lack of human rights that exists in every Arab country?
I have to thank Mr. Kadivar for pointing out some issues about Iranians and Palestinians. How could an Iranian defend Palestinians? The Palestinians whose Mr. Arafat came to Iran took millions of dollars of money from Iran (the first check alone was for $50 million, which today would be more than $150 million) and around a year later joined Saddam in a war that caused casualties of nearly a million in Iran alone. You are asking us to defend the enemies of Iran? I have yet to see one Palestinian who has something positive to say about Iran and Iranians (and I know this first hand), in spite of the many millions of dollars of aid Iran has given them. They killes my compatriots, your compatriots.
Is this really about Israel, Ms. Amini, or the people of Israel?
Pan-Ommah lobster flag?
by Nur-i-Azal on Tue Mar 16, 2010 08:38 PM PDTLOL!
How did you come up with that one?
Ya NUR
Bravo Darius K
by SamSamIIII on Tue Mar 16, 2010 07:25 PM PDTGuess the national priorities are reversed when you commit to Pan-Ommah lobster flag. Cheers patriot!!!
Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia
//www.juancole.com
by Fariba Amini on Tue Mar 16, 2010 05:56 PM PDT//www.juancole.com/
my signature
by capt_ayhab on Tue Mar 16, 2010 04:06 PM PDTUniversity built on a stolen land.
Prior owners either slaughtered, displaced or somewhere in refugee camps.
Entire institution is illegal.
Entire faculty are working illegally in an illegally built building they chose to call UNIVERSITY.
This place is an utter shame to be called an university.
Dis-invite the so called scholar, he might as well go to work for IR, since there are no difference between occupying forces of Israel and criminal force of IR.
signature
-YT
I am ashamed of being in the same profession as these guys who teach there in STOLEN property.
not right to disinvite
by hamsade ghadimi on Tue Mar 16, 2010 03:21 PM PDTapparently, this professor's research was worthy enough to be invited to the conference of this academic society. they clearly state on their site, that their society is non-political. therefore, i think that by their own standards, their hands are tied and isis cannot disinvite this person. i don't think that should stop people like fariba amini or others to try to influence this society; however, i think that isis should clearly make changes in their mission statement and acceptance criteria before disinviting (or not inviting) qualified scholars. if i was a member, i would not make this academic society into a political one. therefore, i would honor this invitation.
as a compromise, perhaps in the future, isis can require that each conference attendee should be represented by the flag of the country or territory on which their institution is built.
Help Me Understand? Wasn't The First Zionist Cyrus the Great ?
by Darius Kadivar on Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:59 AM PDTWho liberated the hebrews from Babylon and allowed the Jews to go to Israel and buil their temple.
He is Awake: Close Up on Cyrus Kar -by Darius KADIVAR
Wasn't one of our Great Persian Queen's a Jew ?
Xerxes: A Screenplay by Ren A Hakim ( interview by Darius KADIVAR)
HISTORY FORUM:Jews in the Persian Empire a lecture by Dr. David Neiman
So I do not see why a Zionist scholar should not be admitted to participate to such a conference on ancient persian history ...
So Where is the Logic ?
Should we Iranians define OUR PRIORITIES based on those of Palestinian or Israeli people ?
When did the Palestians ever feel sorry for Brave Iranian Officers executed by their own PLO mercenaries during the Islamic revolution ?
Arafat hailing the islamic revolution:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-HC5Pn6Yos
When Did they Feel Sorry for Iranians when they were invaded by Saddam Hussein's troops ?
Arafat meets MKO leaders Rajavi in Iraq:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C01q_pt9b0
So What is all this Hypocritical Tearjerking for the Palestinian Cause ?
Some In the Diaspora too want to interpret ALL our Persian Heritage and customs through the distorted spectrum of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict !
//iranian.com/main/2010/mar/first-nowruz
Masgareh Va Ghan !
GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT !
Oh and here for those who may think that I am indifferent to the Palestinian people's Right to having their own land here ...
pictory: (SURPRISE) Shah and Sadat Pro Palestine Statement (1975)
ALL IS A QUESTION OF PRIORITY !
The Iranian Diaspora particularly in the US Would be Well advised to Remember it sooner or later !
Tah Key Meekha Heem Khodemoonoh Gool Bezaneem ?
Happy Chahar Shanbeh Soory To all Iranians regardless of faith and Race for what it's worth these days in the Islamic Republic represented by an ARAB Sickle Flag another concession to the Arab World at the expense of Our Iranian Heritage in the land of the Shahnameh and Shiro Khorsheed:
ROYALTY AND THE PEOPLE: Shah Jumps Over BondFire (1976/77)
best,
DK
First, I suggest to Bibi
by Fariba Amini on Tue Mar 16, 2010 08:12 AM PDTFirst, I suggest to Bibi gol to tell us who she or he is ?
Second, I am not passing judgement on anybody or dictating to ISIS. I am presenting some facts.
third, FYI some members of ISIS and Dr. M. Tavakoli himself (who is by the way a friend) asked me to write an article a propos! Do you know why? because people read what I write!
fourth, I may not be a "scholar" but I am a serious writer and journalist. Many of my interviews and articles have been published and translated into Persian even in Iran!
Fifth, Ms. Bibi Gol, you seem to have a chip on your shoulders to judge me personally instead of looking at the facts presented to you.
Sixth, I am sorry, I will never go to Israel as long as the Palestinians are brutalized, their lands taken, their homes demolished, their women and children bombed (or did you already forget Gaza?) and as long as Israel does not recognize that they, the Palestinians need their own state and their own home so that they could build their universities, their institutions, their parks, their homes with gardens, their schools, their markets, their stores, their coffee shops, their restaurants, and.... or do you think they are subhuman and they don't deserve any of the above?
Seventh, this article merely states the facts and let's the reader make up his/her mind. I have not passed judgement nor will I do that. I do have my own opinion which is:
The scholar in question should attend without mentioning his affiliation. After all, where is Samara and Judea on the world map???
Why I refuse to sign the statement
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Tue Mar 16, 2010 08:09 AM PDTI welcome attendance of anyone who is invited. The best way to have understanding is though dialogue not through exclusion. Let him come and talk to him. Maybe he will learn something and maybe you will learn something.
In addition I have said many times before the Palestinian Israeli problem is not an Iranian problem. We should worry about our own issues and ONLY WHEN that is resolved we would deal with other things.
Our nation is being destroyed by Islamofacsists and you people are worried about Gaza or the West Bank? Shame on you and your upside down priorities. What kind of person would put their own nation behind other people! Sharm angiz ast.
Where is Juan Cole?
by Nur-i-Azal on Tue Mar 16, 2010 02:43 AM PDTHe hardly signs such petitions anymore? Why??
Ya NUR
This powerful petition should be read by all
by dingo daddy En passant on Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:41 AM PDTA Joint Letter to the International
Society of Iranian Studies on "Ariel University of Samaria, Israel"
Dear Professor Sandler
Members of the Executive Committee
International Society for Iranian Studies
We write to register our deep concern that during
the 2010 Iranian Studies Biennial Conference in Santa Monica,
California, the International Society for Iranian Studies (ISIS) intends
to host a faculty member from “Ariel University of Samaria, Israel.” We
understand that due to some concerns expressed, recently on your
website you have changed “Ariel University of Samaria, Israel” to simply
“Ariel University.” But the change cannot mask the nature of the
affiliation.
As you know, “Ariel” is the fourth largest illegal
Israeli settlement in the heart of occupied West Bank. Ariel College in
fact began as a campus of Bar-Ilan University in 1982. Its recent
upgrade to "university" by the Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak
highlights the involvement of the Israeli military establishment with
this institution. A “university” built illegally on confiscated
Palestinian land is not recognized under international laws. The
establishment of such a “university” in occupied Palestinian territories
is in flagrant violation of numerous UN Resolutions, as well as Article
49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention (1949), which clearly states, “The
Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian
population into the territory it occupies.”
Moreover, by hosting a representative of such
“university,” your organization not only shows disregard for
international law, but also effectively lends legitimacy to the brutal
military occupation of a people’s homeland. By recognizing this
“university,” the ISIS is endorsing the illegal and immoral occupation
of Palestine. Such recognition would also show ISIS disregards the call
of the Palestinian Federation of Unions of University Professors and
Employees for the boycott of Israeli academic institutions complicit in
the occupation and other violations of international laws.
As concerned academics, we urge you to reconsider a
decision which disregards international law and lends legitimacy to a
prolonged and brutal military occupation of the Palestinian homeland.
Cordially,
Rabab Ibrahim ABDULHADI (San Francisco State
University, USA)
Ervand ABRAHAMIAN (City University of New York, USA)
Nadia ABU EL-HAJ (Barnard College, USA)
Bashir ABU-MANNEH (Barnard College, USA)
Fawzia AFZAL-KHAN (Montclair State University, USA)
Gilbert ACHCAR (SOAS, UK)
Nadje AL-ALI (SOAS, UK)
Norma ALARCON (University of California, Berkeley, USA)
Kazem ALAMDARI (California State University, Northridge, USA)
Charlotte Karem ALBRECHT (University of Minnesota, USA)
Hamid ALGAR (University of California, Berkeley, USA)
Noor AL-QASIMI (SOAS, UK)
Sama ALSHAIBI (University of Arizona, USA)
Janet AMIGHI (Montgomery County Community College, USA)
Jacqueline ANDRES (American University of Beirut, LEBANON)
Naseer ARURI (University of Massachusetts, Dartmouth, USA)
Barbara ASWAD (Wayne State University, USA)
Bill AYERS (University of Illinois, Chicago, USA)
Paola BACCHETTA (University of California, Berkeley, USA)
Margot BADRAN (Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars,
USA)
Janet BAUER (Trinity College, USA)
Oren BEN-DOR (School of Law, Highfield, UK)
Sherna BERGER GLUCK (California State University, Long Beach, USA)
Haim BRESHEETH (University of East London, UK)
Stan COHEN (London School of Economics, UK)
Noam CHOMSKY (MIT, USA)
Ned CURTHOYS (Australian National University)
Susan CURTIS (UCLA, USA)
Hamid DABASHI (Columbia University, USA)
Lawrence DAVIDSON (West Chester University, USA)
Lara DEEB (Scripps College, USA)
Randi DEGUILHEM (Institut de Recherche & d'Etude sur le Monde
Arabe et Musulman, FRANCE)
Judith DEUTSCH (University of Toronto, CANADA)
John DOCKER (The University of Sydney, AUSTRALIA)
Eleanor DOUMATO (USA)
Aseel Nasir DYCK (Portland State University)
Nada ELIA (Antioch University, USA)
Noura ERAKAT (Georgetown University, USA)
Sasan FAYAZMANESH (California State University, Fresno, USA)
Manzar FOROOHAR (California Polytechnic State University, USA)
Katherine FRANKE (Columbia University, USA)
Nancy GALLAGHER (University of California, Santa Barbara, USA)
Irene GENDZIER (Boston University, USA)
Terri GINSBERG (USA)
Jess GHANNAM (University of California, San Francisco, USA)
Deborah A. GORDON (Wichita State University, USA)
Mary GREY (St Mary's University College, UK)
Marilyn HACKER (City University of New York, USA)
Elaine C. HAGOPIAN (Simmons College, USA)
Sondra HALE (UCLA, USA)
Barbara HARLOW (University of Texas at Austin, USA)
Mahamood HASSAN (California State University, Fullerton, USA)
Nubar HOVSEPIAN (Chapman University, USA)
Nancy JABBRA (Loyola Marymount University, USA)
Suad JOSEPH (University of California, Davis, USA)
Mohsen KADIVAR (Duke University, USA)
Mohja KAHF (University of Arkansas, USA)
Rhoda KANAANEH (New York, USA)
Ousmane KANE (Columbia University, USA)
Persis M. KARIM (San Jose State University, USA)
Simin KARIMI (University of Arizona, USA)
Paul KELERMAN (University of Manchester, USA)
Assaf KFOURY (Boston University, USA)
Katherine KING (UCLA, USA)
David KLEIN (California State University, Northridge, USA)
Yael KORIN (UCLA, USA)
Dennis KORTHEUER (California State University, Long Beach, USA)
Adi KUNTSMAN (University of Manchester, UK)
Frank LAND (London School of Economics, UK)
Mark LEVINE (University of California, Irvine, USA)
Genny LIM (California Institute of Integral Studies, USA)
David LLOYD (University of Southern California, USA)
Yosefa LOSHITZKY (University of East London, UK)
Shireen MAHDAVI (University of Utah, USA)
Saree MAKIDSI (UCLA, USA)
Sunaina MAIRA (University of California, Davis, USA)
Mahmood MAMDANI (Columbia University, USA)
Nur MASALHA (St. Mary's University College and SOAS, UK)
Joseph MASSAD (Columbia University, USA)
Afshin MATIN-ASGARI (California State University, Los Angles, USA)
Minoo MOALLEM (University of California at Berkeley, USA)
Chandra Talpade MOHANTY (Syracuse University, USA)
Fouad MOUGHRABI (University of Tennessee, USA)
Bart MOORE-GIBERT (Goldsmith, University of London, UK)
Martha MUNDY (London School of Economics, UK)
Marcy NEWMAN (Amman Al-Ahliyya University, JORDAN)
Gary Y. OKIHIRO (Columbia University, USA)
Jennifer OLMSTED (Drew University, USA)
Cecile PINEDA (San Diego State University, USA)
Gabriel PITERBERG (UCLA, USA)
Nicola PRATT (University of Warwick, UK)
Bruce ROBBINS (Columbia University, USA)
Lisa ROFEL (University of California, Santa Cruz, USA)
Jonathan ROSENHEAD (London School of Economics, UK)
Roshni RUSTOMJI-KERNS (Sonoma State University, USA)
Ahmad SADRI (Lake Forest College, USA)
Mahmoud SADRI (Texas Woman’s University, USA)
Mariam C. SAID (New York, USA)
George SALEM (University of Southern California, USA)
Vida SAMIIAN (California State University, Fresno, USA)
May SEIKALY (Wayne State University, USA)
Anton SHAMMAS (University of Michigan, USA)
Simona SHARONI (SUNY Plattsburgh, USA)
Magid SHIHADE (Lahore University, Pakistan)
James SCHAMUS (Columbia University, USA)
Yumna SIDDIQI (Middlebury College, USA)
Gayatri Chakravorty SPIVAK (Columbia University, USA)
Samir TARTIR (Philadelphia University, Jordan)
Ali TIZGHADAM (University of Toronto, CANADA)
Nayereh TOHIDI (California State University, Northridge, USA)
Corbin TREACY (University of Minnesota, USA)
Shouleh VATANABADI (New York, University, USA)
Patrick WILLIAMS (Nottingham Trent University, UK)
Howard WINANT (University of California, Santa Barbara, USA)
Patrick WOLFE (Harvard University, USA)
Sherifa ZUHUR (Institute of Middle Eastern, Islamic and Strategic
Studies, USA)
This is a tempest in a tea pot
by Nur-i-Azal on Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:35 AM PDTGranted the Iranian studies scholarly community ought to take a decisive stand against Zionism (as well as with Islamism), but there isn't an issue here to get all tied up in knots about, really. That this Israeli is being penalized for his institutional affiliation is a reverse kind of Neo-Con inspired kulturkampf that went on in North American universties and campuses during the Bush years, but now from liberals. As such it is discrimination. What about the guy's work, his scholarship and writings? Does that count for anything to the ISIS board, or is everything about politics with them?
Furthermore, at the annual MESA gatherings of the Middle East Studies Association of North America you have always had all kinds of unsavory politically-connected individuals attending and presenting papers there, like the devil himself, Bernard Lewis. Why should ISIS be different and why is it inserting itself into a political question it needs to stay above? It isn't as if this guy is personally responsible for any Israeli-Zionist policies in the West bank?
Iranians in North America, especially those in the academic world, are becoming as petty and small minded as ever. I am glad I am no longer connected with these people. Unless the guy is a dyed in the wool supporter of the Israeli government's policies in the area under question, he should be allowed to attend as an independent or even as a full affiliate to the institution he belongs to. And I am saying this as one of the most dyed in the wool anti-Zionists there are!
This projects a terrible image of ISIS. Grow up, you people!
Ya NUR
Fariba makes a great and legitimate point
by dingo daddy En passant on Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:30 AM PDTBibiGol, I'm not involved with ISIS. I don't even live in the states. You have to be blind not to notice the poor damage control job you are doing. You can't just tell people to "shut up, you're not a member", it makes ISIS appear petty. incapable of handling criticism. Is your point to make ISIS and Dr. Tavokoli appear like they are over-sensitive apologists for the Israeli extremists? You have succeeded. An wonderful suggestion was made that his Zionist University not be honored. He can appear as independent. I like that option. ISIS members should do it.
ISIS and Israeli scholars
by BibiGol on Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:51 PM PDTFirst, Ms. Amini is not a member of ISIS and has no right to dictate to this society what to do. The by lines of ISIS clearly leave that decision to its members. This goes for many of the people who have signed the petition.
Second, Ms. Amini is not a scholar, but only an internet "journalist". I suggest she not make decisions about academia.
Third, the charter of ISIS clearly states that it is not a political entity and should not get involved in such matters. As such, it is not up to Ms. Amini to dictate to the Society what to do.
Fourth quoting the Spanish is a joke. They still have the blood of the tens of thousands they killed in the name of religion.
Fifth, Ms. Amini, a journalist who refuses to go to Israel and see things first hand, should try to do some first hand "journalism" and see for herself how many Palestinian students are educated by the Israeli universities in general and this one in particular.
Sixth, Dr. Tavakoli, the current president of the Society has made no comment "in support" of this decision. I suggest you read your sources beforehand.
All this said, the first thing one should look at before making such rash decision is what the position of this particular Israeli scholar is. Every person can have his/her own opinion independent of his/her government. I would hate to see Mrs. Shirin Ebady, Iran's Nobel Peace Laureate, being banned by American universities, because many of us do not like the policies of Iranian government, occupied territories or not. I see no difference between the two. Should Columbia University have not accepted Alexadre Solzhenitsin to teach there? If Britain and British universities adopted such a policiy a few years ago, it was -- and is -- because many of their schools are now being supported by Arabs, whose benefits in many ways depend on adding to this fire in the Middle East. The Brits have to bow to those who "pay their salaries". We don't.
I for one would like to hear what this person has to say. If this Israeli professor's -- or any other non-Iranian scholar's -- research is benefitting Iranian studies, he should be thanked, not ostracized. We should hear him, and, if we need, question him.
One last word. Please leave the internal affairs of ISIS to its memebers. I assure you the members of this Society are educated and smart enough to make their own decision. They don't need you to advertise their cause, nor do they need Iranian.com to tell them how to decide.
Mr. aynak
by capt_ayhab on Mon Mar 15, 2010 02:43 PM PDTI see the point you are making.
Teaching in an university in occupied lands, which is purely for Jews only[speculating] which purely promotes segregation and apartheid is no different from a scholar in any Iranian university who, rather than carrying out his/her duties as an educator, which is being a liberal and democratic person in order to promote unbiased learning environment for the young minds, he/she promotes the regime agenda.
It is the ideology that these types of learning environments are trying to cram down the students throats and not the physical locations[which in itself is sad enough].
I presented that question hoping I would get a response from the ISIS system, for it appears that they are rather employing double standard.
-YT
P/S I trust Tehran University to be one of best universities in the world, along with Sharif and alike. Two of my siblings teach in those prestigious institutions.
to capt_ayhab
by aynak on Mon Mar 15, 2010 01:58 PM PDTAs far as I know, there is no university in Iran, that has been built on someone else's land. That's the nature of dispute here, not whether the professor (in this case Israeli or in your case one with close ties with IRI) has association with a repressive government.
To put it differently, "Tehran University" or any others in Iran by themselves are not representative of oppression. However the "Ariel college" by its very existence in disputed (occupied) territories, is not legitimate.
If someone from Tehran U comes to this event, that would not make Tehran U any more or any less legitimate as an academic institution. Tehran U has existed way before IRI and will way after IRI. But if someone from Ariel college attends a conference like this, that endorses the legitimate existence of this college by ISIS.
I hope the difference is clear.
to capt_ayhab
by aynak on Mon Mar 15, 2010 01:55 PM PDTduplicate post. See above.
Question?
by capt_ayhab on Mon Mar 15, 2010 02:06 PM PDTNot that I in any shape or form support anything about IR, but let us assume that some scholars who have close ties to the regime wanted to represent their respective universities where students are being beaten, and imprisoned.
Would the honorable scholars and ISIS as a whole take the same position?
-YT
P/S Edited for typo