From when I had just learned to read and write, I used to write poetry. Granted, after I came to United States, for more than 20 years, I never wrote a poem. But I was always interested in writing. In "ensha" class, I always got great grades. Growing up, I never fixed a TV or radio. I just watched too much TV. So how is it that I am an Electrical Engineer? For high school, I chose "Riazi and Physics", that was a given. My grades in math and science were good, actually they were excellent, I was trying to be modest. Even though I loved literature but there was no way I would go to that field of study in high school, since mostly students with not so good grades went to that field. And then I decided somewhere along the way that even though I really loved writing, but I would have a technical career and just do writing as a hobby.
Later when I started studying in United States, it was easy to decide. It was when dollar in Iran was in black market and as an immigrant; you would have to choose a career that enabled you to get a job easier. Medical field was out of question. I physically get sick when I see injured people or people who are gravely sick. So I chose Engineering. But then why Electrical Engineering? I was interested in Chemical Engineering because my dad taught Chemistry and I liked the subject but then there was no Chemical Engineering degree offered in our university. Therefore, Electrical Engineering seemed a good choice especially since it was 1980s and Electrical Engineering was a vibrant field. I am not sorry about the field of study that I chose and like the fact that I get to trouble shoot the systems which is what I like. I am not interested in small components at the board level but trouble shooting systems appeals to me. I even extend it to people from time to time.
Our kids who were born in Diaspora have more choices. In majority of cases, they are not under financial pressure that we faced in late 70s, and 80s. Also their better English skills, or another language depending on where they live, enable them to have better chance in a wider variety of fields. That is why nowadays, I hear my friends tell me that their kid is studying engineering but his love is music and that is what he/she will probably do. Or we have more Iranians who are actors, comedians, writers. I even have some friends who are in their twenties and are writers. Sure, many of them have other jobs too but they get to spend much more time on their writing when they are still young. I would like to know how you came up with your career? Is there some interesting story behind it?
My guess is that for most people, especially those in their mid forties and above, the stories tend to be similar. They were immigrants, so they decided to become doctors/engineers because there was more money in that. I am interested in all stories especially the cases when there was a calling. For instance, the person used to style others' hair from when they were not even 10 and that is why they became a hair stylist. Or they always dreamed about being a doctor or sadly lost a loved one in an early age and that was their impetus for becoming a doctor. Will you please share with us, how you chose your career or was that your career that chose you?
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Dear yolanda, yes , cats can sound like babies...
by Anahid Hojjati on Sun Nov 28, 2010 01:12 AM PSTDear yolanda, no, I am not super woman. Poetry does not take that much time. Compared to writing stories and articles, poetry is much faster. Once you have the idea, writing the actual poem is fast. There are times that I keep editing the poem but usually the proces of writing poems is fast.
Thanks for the video. It was interesting to listen to this guy's journey.
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by yolanda on Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:12 PM PSTHi Anahid,
You are smart, physics is a hard subject and so is poetry-writing! You are a superwoman! I got woken up by neighbor's cats many times......they have this sad baby-like crying......I guess it was their wedding nite! Did you watch this video?
//iranian.com/main/2010/nov/mohommad-favaxeh
The guy said for Iranians you have to study medicine, Engineerings, or law......similar to the stuff we discussed here.....he ended up owning a cab company!
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Dear Mehrdad,
Wow! Your videos are very impressive......you are not afraid to pursue your dreams! Great job!! Iranians are very smart and brave! It must be a very gratifying feeling to build a plane and fly it...........just be very careful.....you can't afford one single mistake....your wife and parents must have admonished you thousands of times........I visited Aspen, CO 4 times...last time 2009.....there is a John Denver memorial.....some rocks on display with his song lyrics
......the dude bought a plane built by Burt Rutan.......the rest is history.......
Yes, it is great to be self-sufficient....painting is way easier than building a plane! :O)
Please take care!
P.S. Sorry I have a silly layperson's question: is there any Mehrmom? only Mehrdad and Mehrban?
Dear Yolanda,
by Bavafa on Sat Nov 27, 2010 04:46 PM PSTAs a clarification, I should add that the trip was not to Everest or any of the 14 eight thousand meter peaks. It was to Terich Mir which is in Pakistan. On the hind side, she should have let me go and If I am ever born again, I would want to climb it.
BTW, aren't you glad you painted your own room, it is a great feeling to be self sufficient. Isn't it.
Anahid jaan,
It is amazing what transformation takes place when one becomes a parent. It is scary….
And as for the plane goes, it is quite safe and fun. I flew it to Atlanta and back about a month ago and it was fun. Here is a couple of videos of the first flight and first landing.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGBfwggAJz4
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN8O0UjB1y8&feature=related
Mehrdad
Dear yolanda, I once had an Iranian Calculus teacher
by Anahid Hojjati on Sat Nov 27, 2010 02:24 PM PSTyolanda, I once had an excellent Iranian Calculus teacher. I was good at his class since I had taken a Physics class before that Calculus which actully needed that level of math so I had learned some of the concepts in that Physics class.
As far as Bavafa's cats, I like where you wrote:"it is funny that you have passed your parents' protectiveness to your cats! LOL!"
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by yolanda on Sat Nov 27, 2010 01:53 PM PSTDear Anahid,
Some American parents abandan their kids........they don't do enough to push for education......I run into whole bunch of lazy American students....they either don't do homework or they do fake homework......that is why Iranians have way more education than Americans.....I took a Calculus refresher class.....the teacher is Iranian.....on the 1st test, the class average is 50% 'cause the students either didn't homework or just copied the solution manual....LOL!...the Iranian teacher was furious and gave the whole class a good scolding! OMG! He raised his voice! He looked really mad...I got shaken up by an Iranian guy's rage...:O)
Sometimes, when an American needs money, (s)he probably has to go to the bank and borrow intead of going to the parents........
You said:
Iranian parents are generally more caring
I am sure the Iranian kids have the tendancy to take care of the parents when the parents become old.......they reciprocate the love...
Some (or a lot) American elderlies are on their own and fend for themselves 'cause their children don't help much!
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Dear Mehrdad,
Your mom's admonition is great...your mom is smart...it is funny that you have passed your parents' protectiveness to your cats! LOL!
Oh gosh, you like the high-risk and high satisfaction sports! It is a great feeling to conquer a mountain....but climbing Himalayas is not easy. Your parents' fear and worry is justifiable..........according to what I read....Mt.Everest/Himalayas is littered with dead bodies.......if all those frozen bodies can be resurrected, Mt. Everest will look like Venice Beach......wow! You are very smart that you can build a plane......but be careful with flying the plane......you got to listen to your wife/parents plus get their permission or carry a parachute with you when you fly your plane.
Thank you for your post.....Good luck with everything!
Dear Bavafa, yes, parents think they have all the answers
by Anahid Hojjati on Sat Nov 27, 2010 09:44 AM PSTMehrdad jan, thanks for your comment. You sure put your parents through some "delvapasee" with your climbing expeditions. I would die out of worry if my daughter did that!
About your cats, please make sure they don't bother the neighbors :). One of my neighbors has cats that always end up around my home. I have to be careful not to leave the doors open since one of the cats will come inside or at night, sometimes, I can hear cats doing "Naaleh" on the roof!
Anahid jaan: "Iranian parents are generally more caring"
by Bavafa on Sat Nov 27, 2010 08:56 AM PSTCautiously agreed, but I wondering if that "care" comes with no strings attached? Iranian parents [mothers] much like the Jewish mothers have a doctored degree in "guilt trip" and know how to work their kids.
Dear Yolanda,
Growing up, I often complaint about my own parents (my mom specially) that she was way too limiting and over bearingly protective. The answer to every question I had, was "dear son, if you study and get a good education, then you can be all you want to be, you can buy all you want to buy, you can play all you want to play…etc"
Now that I am a parent only to three cats, I understand and often wonder how parents can allow their kid to go outside with so much danger around. I wonder what I put my parents thru when in the middle of winter I went mountain climbing for nearly three weeks or why they refused me the money to go on a climbing expedition to Himalaya when I was only 18. My dad was not happy at all when I was building my plane, I guess now I understand why.
On the other hand I realize those protectiveness, limits our potentials and I need to learn to let me cat be a bit more free. My wife on the other hand will have no talk of letting them go outside :)
Mehrdad
Dear yolanda, yes, Iranian parents are more controlling but also
by Anahid Hojjati on Sat Nov 27, 2010 07:54 AM PSTDear yolanda, this is nice color that you have chosen for your living room.
Regarding Iranian parents, it is true that they are more controlling and sometimes they try to tell their adult kids what to do. One thing I have to say about my parents is that even though now, sometime they are controlling but I appreciate that growing up, they let their kids make important decisions. So they were not controlling when it counted which was when you are up to 18. Therefore, when later, they wanted to tell us what to do, by then we knew better to make our own decisions and not necessarily listen to them all the time.
Iranian parents are generally more caring, that is even if their "kid" is 30/40 years old and needs help, Iranian parents usually help while American parents don't feel that they have to help that much.
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by yolanda on Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:38 AM PSTHi Anahid,
I finished painting my living-room last night....this is the color:
//www.vitaltexcorp.com/images/Arts%20&%20Crafts/Tissue%20Paper/Baby%20Blue%20-%2010.jpg
....I spent 5 days on painting....I am fed up....I am glad it is over!
I just want to say that American parents seem to give their kids a lot of freedom: let them do whatever they want.....not enough discipline....Sarah Palin let her daughter and the boyfriend live in her house and get pregnant under her nose.......Priscilla Presley let Lisa Marie Presley marry Michael Jackson....here is the comment from Bavafa:
At home, it is often decided for you from early age, what field to work, what to study, when to get married and often even who to marry.
OMG! My mom is almost like that.......she taught college Chemistry....so I had to get a college degree in Chemistry also....yes, I got it for her......this type of parents have programmed everything for their kids........I left Continental USA and went to Hawaii for grad school.......tried to keep a distance from the controlling parent....:O) I recall when I was in the Texa airport before flying to Hawaii.....a young Iranian guy asked me to donate money.......the guy was pretty aggressive....he showed me a list of names that they have donated money to his organization.......I gave him nothing 'cause I was just a poor student......Now I look back.....I think the guy may be a MKO sympathiser or something......sorry for the side-track.......I think if a parent is too lenient.....it is bad for the kid......if the parent is too strict......it is also bad for the kid......the parents need to optimize and have a good balance!
Thank you for your blog!
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Hi Tissa,
You are so smart! Good luck with everything! I watched your video clip on IC before...very impressive!
Hi Rea,
It is great to be bilingual or multilingual.......I admire anyone who can speak more than one language!
Hi VPC,
Thank you for your jokes! LOL!
Hi! RG,
Thank you for the great post...you must be a very disciplined and successful person!
Thank you for sharing!
Dear yolanda, thanks for commenting. About being good at both
by Anahid Hojjati on Wed Nov 24, 2010 09:36 AM PSTDear yolanda, I have studied EE and I write but about being good in both, that is nice of you to write. By the way, are you doing any painting in any interesting color, I mean not just white or off white? I am tired of my home mostly being same color. One of these days, may be I will have living room painted something different. It is nice to have few days off. I have today off too.
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by yolanda on Wed Nov 24, 2010 09:29 AM PSTHi Anahid,
Wow! You are an EE and also like to write.....so you are an all-around person...that is great! It is not easy to be good at both.....I know I am not! When I was in college, EE was a super popular major......but not a lot of girls there! You are great!
LOL! I need to finish the 2nd coat of paint after writhing this post...hopefully by 11:00 am..it was too dark to see where I missed yesterday....I did submit my photo essay....I still have 4 days off, I try to get more things done. I will be back after painting the 2nd coat.
Dear VPK, so true that dreams change
by Anahid Hojjati on Wed Nov 24, 2010 05:55 AM PSTDear VPK, thanks for writing. I don't know about reincarnation, but I know that dreams change. I remember as little girl watching Olympics. In 1972 I was a kid so I thought that some day it is possible that I participate in it. In 1976, I still thought it is possible but as I got older, it became clear that Olympics was not at my reach. About some other dreams, I have found out that if I am actively doing something to reach that dream, I actually do not dream about it as much. It is when I am doing nothing or very little that I engage in dreaming more. This has been true with couple major dreams in my life. Dear VPK, you also brought up important subject of how family become primary in certain point in life which is very true. Thanks for sharing.
Dear yolanda, how is the paint job going?
by Anahid Hojjati on Wed Nov 24, 2010 05:18 AM PSTDear yolanda, your comment was about 3 PM of yesterday, so how is it going? Thanks for commenting.
Following Dream
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Wed Nov 24, 2010 04:09 AM PSTA couple of points:
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by yolanda on Tue Nov 23, 2010 03:22 PM PSTHi! Anahid,
Absolutely fascinating stuff here.....I finished 1st coat of painting.....I will do the 2nd coat later.......I am almost done with my photo essay.....I will submit it to JJ tonite........I have read every post in this blog.....everyone has an interesting life story.....wow!
I will be back......
I have to learn from Iranians disciplining myself to finish the painting job...LOL!...you are right.....It is cheaper (free) to paint myself.....
Tissa jan, as you write about establishment...
by Anahid Hojjati on Tue Nov 23, 2010 02:46 PM PSTDear Tissa, thanks for commenting. I am glad that there are Iranian Americans like you who have careers which lets them educate Americans about Iranian Americans. What you write about anti establishment is so true. It is much better when one' s career matches their personality, and you found a career (actually two since you are also a writer) that matches your personality.
Comedian
by tissa on Tue Nov 23, 2010 02:12 PM PSTMy parents raised me to believe that the only career worth pursuing was medicine. That turned out to be problematic when I discovered I hated high school biology class. I tried so very hard to follow one of the "supposed to" fields -- medicine, law, business, academia. But, in the end, I was -- in the words of my friends -- an anti-establishment person trying to make it in an establishment world. Two Ivy League degrees, a French Grande Ecole diploma, and a year of unemployment later, I stepped onstage for the first time. And finally, it all made sense.
Dear yolanda, Rea and Bavafa, thanks for your comments
by Anahid Hojjati on Tue Nov 23, 2010 02:09 PM PSTDear yolanda, I know painting is hard but then you are saving money by doing it yourself. Please write something if you have time about your career or the plans you have for it. That is if you feel like sharing and are not too tired after painting.
Dear Rea, that clip is one of my favorites. Not that I don't give a damn any more. But because as you wrote in your comment, not everything that happeens in life, is in one's hand.
Dear Bavafa, I also hope other readers contribute to comments.
Thank you Anahid Jaan, following your dream
by Bavafa on Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:32 AM PSTIt is the best thing we can do for ourselves. We get only one shot at this life and better use it to the most possible way.
Great blog again and I will be following it with interest to read about others story. I am sure they are all interesting.
Mehrdad
Dear Anahid
by Rea on Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:14 AM PSTMuch younger, I used to think my life was in my hands. Now I'm almost 50 and I know better.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=02tCGleIdcw
@VPK, better hard than soft, lol. ;o)
Roozbeh jan, yes, Iranian parents pushed their kids into ...
by Anahid Hojjati on Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:15 AM PSTRoozbeh jan, yes, Iranian parents pushed their kids into medicine/engineering. They still do that. But I think in some cases, it ends up being OK. About Iranians working as cab drivers while they do have Phd, I would have to say that there are some who work as engineers. In Iran, I do have many family/friends who are engineers even several women who are engineers. Working conditions over there are different but not every person who has studied engineering in Iran ends up being a cab driver. However, I agree, some probably do either as their first or second jobs. Dear Roozbeh, thanks for sharing your experience regarding your career with us.
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by yolanda on Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:14 AM PSTWow! What an interesting blog.....every post is interesting! I will be back and read more.....I have to do some house-painting.....it is boring..
Thank you all for the interesting discussion.....
Dear Bavafa, what an excellent account of your career choice
by Anahid Hojjati on Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:05 AM PSTMehrdad jan, It is interesting to know that some one who liked to work with his hands, ends up being in IT field but then follows with his first love by incorporating that in his hobbies. This is amazing that you built a plane. Yes, in United States, compared to present Iran, you can follow your dreams more easily. Maybe I will play ping-pong in 45 and above age group and do well. This is one dream I have. Thanks again for reading the blog and for your great answer.
My career was chosen for me!
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:01 AM PSTExactly on my 17th B'day, my father told me that he'd send me abroad to study after my diplom, so long as I'd promise to: a) stay away from politics, b) become a Doctor or Mohandes. I, in my zeal to get abroad and all the goodies there, promissed him to become both a Doctor and a Mohandes! Then followed 8 years of hard work (I dont believe my brain was designed for engineering) Before I fulfilled my promise to the father. So here I am, 22 years after that faithful promise, working as an engineer.
I actually think my case is not unique. Lots of Iranian men are/were forced by their parents and society to follow careers in Engineering or medicine because they at least used to be considered to secure a reasonable income and respect in society. This is sadly not always the case in Iran these days. We all have come across cab drivers in Tehran with PhD's....
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
Dear Anahid: Interesting blog, great topic
by Bavafa on Tue Nov 23, 2010 09:41 AM PSTAs a youngster, I did not like school at all, only sports but growing up in a family that both parents were academics, not getting an education was not on the menu.
After service in 1982, I was content to stay in Iran and be a commoner, maybe a plumber or mechanic but since I was also sort of hard-headed and refused to play by the rules so speak and Sepah/Basiij didn't care for that sort of behavior much and nearly got killed by them, my dad convinced me that I may find freedom and democracy sooner in abroad then at home. So, after much pressure from them I end up in Germany attending a university and studying computer science . The subject of study was chosen based what was available to me at that university and in the early 80s any thing related to computer was new and exciting. Fast forward to many years later and more schooling in US, it made sense to continue with the same subject matter so I end up in the field of IT and being working in that field ever since.
Looking back, I often praise my parents for pushing me to go to school and get a higher education. I still enjoy working with my hands, building stuff but as I get older that type of work is harder and harder on the body.
Needless to say, one thing that I often say when I am asked about living in US and how different it is then home… my experience and response is not the endless opportunities here but freedom to choose who and what you want to be. At home, it is often decided for you from early age, what field to work, what to study, when to get married and often even who to marry.
Throughout my life from teenage years I have loved mountain climbing more then any thing, well till I met my wife a few years ago. I am sure I would not have been able to continue with climbing as long as I did if I was living in Iran. I also built a plane in my garage which my dad thought the absolute insane thing to do, yet last summer he got in that plane with me for a short flight.
It is the dreams that we are able to bring to life here in US.
Thanks for the blog.. I went much too far with my story.
Mehrdad
Dear Muscle, I don't agree
by Anahid Hojjati on Tue Nov 23, 2010 08:47 AM PSTPeople can send resumes, fill job applications, go to job interviews and take entrance exams, etc., and basically get hired based on their education, work experience and their fit for the job. Yes, it is true that some people get jobs because of having some contacts inside, but that is not always the case.
Most people don't have a choice
by muscle-defender on Tue Nov 23, 2010 08:22 AM PSTUnless they are on the "inside".
VPK, jan, it is 2nd time you make me laugh
by Anahid Hojjati on Tue Nov 23, 2010 06:41 AM PSTVPK jan, yes, your point about if you had gone back to Iran, is valid. You made me laugh with your comment that Hardware engineering is also a possibility.
Anahid Jan
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Tue Nov 23, 2010 06:13 AM PSTThank you for this blog.
Regarding weapons research. Yes many engineering jobs involve weapons. I have worked on technology primarily for civilian use. Of course it is possible to pervert the use of anything for war. But none of my work has been directed towards war. Ironic that if I had gone back to Iran I would almost surely worked on weapons. Given the Iraq war and the later obsession with weapons IRI would have had me working on just that.
Rea: I am open minded; not all people need to be software engineers. It is perfectly fine to go into hardware engineering as well :-)
Thanks Dear Rea for another excellent comment
by Anahid Hojjati on Tue Nov 23, 2010 06:09 AM PSTDear Rea, your comment about getting into translation and your advice are great. In this case, I am not doing a good job since my daughter understands Farsi but has forgotten how to speak it.