It seems that we have lost Mr. Kadivar as a Contributor

Artificial Intelligence
by Artificial Intelligence
19-Nov-2009
 

You knew very well that these people just do not get along but you featured a blog that criticized Mr. Kadivar and Fred and this naturally lead to personal attacks by all sides.  This was not a first time you allowed a featured blog regarding Mr. Kadivar. What were you thinking?

I saw that entery by Mr. Kadivar and it was not pleasant but what the hell do you expect to happen to a public person? 

The blog got so toxic that you had to shut it down and at the end it had nothing to do with Mr. Kadivar either.

Sorry Mr. JJ. I really like you and respect what you have done for the Iranian American community with this site. However,  you should have known better. You know exactly what I am talking about!

Please do not feature this blog. Thank you.   

 

 

 

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great clip Ebi!

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Ebi jAn,

I don't know if you saw my lyrics for Kadivar down below. As you know I rarely agreed with him but hope he'll be back soon too.Here it is again:

 

MY FREEDOM OF "BLOGGING"!

-Since you want it all, then take my account and my comments, my video clips,
-My imperfect comments, and some of my video clips, and my curses have already been taken away,
-My iranian.com account locked, so feel free to take away my pictures with the prince of Transylvania , and the king of Arabia,
-Even my picture with Reza Pahlavi,
-After All that  is an open book, I can sell my soul to the Devil,
-With Him one can always find a ground, and cope with,
-Since down here everything is negotiable, BUT DON’T TAKE AWAY the link to
Ma liberté de penser,  even ***ing Kharmags the IRI apologist likes it


MY FREEDOM OF "BLOGGING", ........


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For Darius Kadivar

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//www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJY8fhGTMU0

Paroles de la Chanson : Ma liberté de penser

Quitte à tout prendre prenez mes gosses et la télé
Ma brosse à dent mon revolver la voiture ça c'est déjà fait
Avec les interdits bancaires prenez ma femme, le canapé
Le micro onde, le frigidaire
Et même jusqu'à ma vie privée
De toute façon à découvert
Je peux bien vendre mon âme au diable 
Avec lui on peut s'arranger 
Puisque ici tout est négociable, mais vous n'aurez pas 
Ma liberté de penser
______


Prenez mon lit, les disques d'or, ma bonne humeur
Les petites cuillères, tout ce qu'à vos yeux a de la valeur 
Et dont je n'ai plus rien à faire, quitte à tout prendre n'oubliez pas 
Le shit planqué sous l'étagère 
Tout ce qui est beau et compte pour moi
J' préfère que ça parte à l'Abbé Pierre 
J' peux donner mon corps à la science 
S' il y'a quelque chose à prélever 
Et que ça vous donne bonne conscience, mais vous n'aurez pas 
Ma liberté de penser
Ma liberté de penser
______


J' peux vider mes poches sur la table 
Ca fait longtemps qu'elles sont trouées 
Baisser mon froc j'en suis capable, mais vous n'aurez pas
Ma liberté de penser
______


Quitte à tout prendre et tout solder
Pour que vos petites affaires s'arrangent 
J' prends juste mon pyjama rayé
Et je vous fais cadeau des oranges
Vous pouvez même bien tout garder
J'emporterai rien en enfer 
Quitte à tout prendre j' préfère y' aller 
Si le paradis vous est offert 
Je peux bien vendre mon âme au diable
Avec lui on peut s'arranger 
Puisque ici tout est négociable, mais vous n'aurez pas 
Non vous n'aurez pas 
Ma liberté de penser
Ma liberté de penser


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I am totally right

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Because the record of the facts given proves it so. Your waving of the hand does not. Kadivar's articulation of "crazy things," as you put it, which as you also put it has been deleted, is no more and no less than the libellous and defamatory material put up by the Baha'is. Yet they are never reprimanded for their attacks and libel on other people whereas Mr. Kadivar gets blocked.

Whether ethically or legally this is called double standards and also proves that there are two rules operative here: one for Baha'is, who are on the evidence of the facts beyond the reproach of the administration and editor-in-chief of this site, and one for everybody else.

If you have facts proving otherwise, such as whether Bahai members have ever been blocked or reprimanded for their misbehavior on this site in the same way Mr Kadivar has, by all means go ahead and show it.


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you are totally wrong Nur-i-Azal

by kharmagas on

I personally hope JJ unlocks Kadivar's account soon, but your accusation is totally wrong. The reason you don't see many of crazy things Kadivar has said is that they have already been deleted! It is as simple as that.

BTW, I am not a BahAi, and JJ recently threatened to lock my account too! (I think he lost the record though, because they had a server crash the same day, so my parvandeh could still be clean!)


Nur-i-Azal

Baha'is own this site and are above any rule

by Nur-i-Azal on

Law or policy applied to others here. Here is the proof:

//iranian.com/main/blog/nur-i-azal/request-jj-permanent-removal-defamatory-post-about-me

While Mr Kadivar gets blocked for a very minor, forgivable infraction, certain Bahai members of this site can get away with any form or libel or defamation against any other member with impunity without so much as a whimper from the administration of this site.

One policy for all other Iranians and everybody else; one rule for Haifan Baha'is. Welcome to the New World Order of Baha'u'llah!


capt_ayhab

Where are you dude?

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Darius Jan

I thought you were gonna be beck in couple of day. Even though you and I do not see eye to eye when it comes to our politics, but you are missed refigh.

get your handsome face back here.

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I just read your comment now. I have to stay out of here, again for a while, as my many exams and projects are still on the table waiting for me to work on :)

Today, I came back here just for a little while (hope I can ) and respond to the comments. So in reply to you: Yes, I agree Kharmags has a thick skin and I just love this! As long as it doesn't drive to the "illogical compromise" it is even a good asset ! I like his humor too, he is funny. You too, have a very great sense of humor. You are very smart :)


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luckily they don't have thanksgiving in France!

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LOL Kharmagas-e aziz!  I think should that khoda-biamorz gets resurrected, unless he is a boring git, he might have gained the grace by then to see your excellent good humour :)  Enjoy the Easter Sunday :):)


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SOuri khanoom

by KouroshS on

In kharmags has such thick skin and a zaboon 6 feet long. F$$%% ke hichi. He has seen worst on this site and has unfortunately survived it all... after finishing off the job of bringing democracy to iran, One has to worry about ending his reign and matalak paroonee o Gonde g##$$ haye This man on this site.

By the way Magasak. I decided to overlook that stupid comment you made about "mothers" on that thread. As usual you felt like ezhare fazl "eh" kardan. Lucky for you, i am not the one who goes on writing long essays on stuff like that.

Yeah... so ... Souri jaan. We will talk later:)


kharmagas

that temporary marhooum was good at potshots!

by kharmagas on

Faramarz, that temporary marhoum was very skilled at taking potshots (last one of which missed the target and hit the bear). Hence, I seriously doubt that he gets any pheasants, in all likelihood he is cursing the pheasants in central France, after missing the target. Luckily they don't have thanksgiving in France....

Souri jAn, I am hoping that after resurrection, that khoda biAmorz will have good feelings, or at least mixed feelings about my comments. In my next trip to Iran I hope to stop in France and visit his excellency.

 

 


Faramarz

The Rumors of DK's Demise Have Been Greatly Exaggerated

by Faramarz on

I don't know much about the background here. But, I can say that Mr. Kadivar is one of the pillars of this community. With Thanksgiving coming in a few days, he is probably pheasant hunting in central France.

I agree with Souri Khanoom that we will hear from him soon. He will rise up like the French did in Casablanca!

 


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Kharmagas jan

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delam vasat kheili misouzeh!

Wait for he come back on Sunday! rouzegaret siaah mishe, lol!

Enghadr F$$k you F$$k you tahvilet bedeh ke az freedom of thinking khodet na tanha bizar beshi, balke delet be haale har chi azadeieh besouzeh....


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kharmagas - I am so touched!

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  الهی ! خدا رحمتش کنه. 

 حالا شما خرمگس جان این قدر زود به فال نیک نگیر، با وجود آزادی فکر و خیال، هنوز که ایستر ساندی نشده! 


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Since Kadivar is not resurrected yet(to Setareh, and AI)

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Thanks Setareh, since he is not resurrected yet I am posting the link to English translation of Ma liberté de penser that Kadivar posted at some point (you'll really enjoy it after reading its translation):

//iranian.com/main/blog/darius-kadivar/vo...

Also here is the modified version of the lyrics that perhaps Kadivar is singing now:

MY FREEDOM OF "BLOGGING"!

-Since you want it all, then take my account and my comments, my video clips,
-My imperfect comments, and some of my video clips, and my curses have already been taken away,
-My iranian.com account locked, so feel free to take my pictures with the prince of Transylvania , and the king of Arabia,
-Even my picture with Reza Pahlavi,
-After All that  is an open book, I can sell my soul to the Devil,
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-Since down here everything is negotiable, BUT DON’T TAKE AWAY the link to
Ma liberté de penser,  even ***ing Kharmags the IRI apologist likes it


MY FREEDOM OF "BLOGGING", ........


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Khar magas jan!

by Setareh Cheshmakzan on

I read all your comments on the 'temporary mahroum' :):) LOL

You ARE funny! 


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Rouhash shAdo shangoul for next two days (to AI)

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Hamshahri-e azeez, regarding 'ma librte de penser', I wasn't joking. That was one of temporary marhoom's favorite songs, and it is a very cool song. He posted its translation at some point. I am sure you'll enjoy it too.

my freedom of thought (ma librte de penser)

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJY8fhGTMU0


Artificial Intelligence

Zal, Your First comment explained it the best

by Artificial Intelligence on

Better than I expressed it. Thank you.

I still don't think many realize what has happend and what actually transpired in the past 3 days here. 

JJ had no problem removing a blog by Q regarding the porn stuff as it was ugly regardless of who was telling the truth in that blog. The same should have been done to the Slander blog as the blog had nothing to do with defamation or Slander of Trita Parsi and everything to do with people here hating each other for political reasons.

DK was not an anonymous person and these type of blogs against real people hurt. Q is anonymous no matter how many times he claims he is not. I have had this argument with him already and I am sure he will still claim that he is not anonymous.

Let me also say that I am no monarchist, could care less for the "royal family" and all the bull shit that comes with it. I hate royalty. All royalty. Whether its in England, Iran or any where else! But I still liked DK and I don't think he will come back even if JJ unlocks his account. That is the sad part here.

Thank you everyone for your kind comments.

Kharmagas jan, I have to admit that I laughed at your resurrection joke. It was funny:)))) 

 

 


HollyUSA

You'd never make it in trial court

by HollyUSA on

Poor line of defense. You'd weigh down the wrong side of the sacels of justice since your numerous personal attacks and insults went unasnwered until my last comment. That is EXACTLY how to get yourself banned and justifiably so.
Now carry on as you wish. I won't be reading/caring. Nor will JJ I suspect.


Zal

Agreed. Your bad. Per original forecast as potential

by Zal on

outcome based on back and forth and definition of provocation. Now if you want to call me names then focus on me. No need to attack DK who is not here or involved.

Holly, thank you for for playing as my demonstration partner.

jj, I hope this live animated demonstration illustrates the point of my original comment to you.

 


HollyUSA

My bad

by HollyUSA on

I now see why the defense of DK...I should have known better. You seem to be of same gutter of graceless existence. Oh well, it takes all sorts I suppose.

And BTW, your name doesn't make you a man.

Zal

Dear confused misquoting babbler. Zal is of greatest

by Zal on

of Shahnameh. Perhaps you can now figure if it is male or female. it would be good if took the time to read before you typed. Or better yet comprehend before you type. Nothing happened between me and DK and this has nothing to do with me. Again take the time to read..and spend a minute to comprehend.

and... "If the site is not spending the money on something more solid, then I assume it can't / doesn't want to. Since we are not paying members that hardly becomes our business now, does it?"...not only irrelavanlt to the issue at hand but also brown nosing again.

And I do enjoy your comments. Even if it is irrelevant, out of place and time and between beel zadan. And oh yes, rather predictable.

AI, sorry about the beel incident distraction, but had it was hard to resist. Point of your blog is quite valid. As is KouroshS' comment.

PS: notice absence of 'your name anywhere in my comment' and yet it is pointed at you :) and leveraging your irrelevance


HollyUSA

Zal

by HollyUSA on

"Hollyusa, my comment was directed to jj and I suppose he can answer if he wants to."

Last time I checked Sir (or Madam as the case may be), this was a public forum and all members could post any comments they liked. I believe that remains unchanged. We also all have the option of not responding to anything we may imagine is directed at us. My comment was not directed at you, and infact I don't see your name anywhere in my comment at all. It merely addressed the idea of someone's bad temper becoming an excuse for poor behavior. When people behave poorly they pay. It is only fair. As you saw in JJ's comment whatever took place between the two of you was apparently not the single deciding factor in banning him as he had been warned on prior occasions. I happen to know better and perhaps if you dig a little, you too may come to find out.

As for your knowledge of 'web technologies',  please refer to yor own explanation: There is little the site can do to keep people out without serious investment. There are many ways around things as you said yourself (and btw, most of us are also humbly aware of the same!). If the site is not spending the money on something more solid, then I assume it can't / doesn't want to. Since we are not paying members that hardly becomes our business now, does it?

Brown nosing my foot. You clearly don't know the first thing about me and there is no good reason that you should. That is in itself hoewever, is good reason to serve yourself well by not using such a derogatory term in reference to others. All I did was state my opinion which I consider fair. Whatever beef you may or may not have with admin is your issue.If you don't want comments, address it in an email and keep it private.


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Quite Interesting

by KouroshS on

That as this issue of the site's integrity is being discussed there are so many comments, that really, really should be deleted since they have the potential to trigger some kind of retaliatory reaction. Regardless of How DK behaved, he is receiving double the amount of supposed slandering that he delivered! What is that all about?

And i am just curious that why a comment that makes nasty and totally out-of-place and sophomoric , trashy remarks towards a certain female member of this site, is even allowed to sit nice and tight on this blog?

 


kharmagas

Vahshieh Bafghi (to Hajminator)

by kharmagas on

Thanks Hajminator, I will find his book next time I visit Iran. I shall stop talking about the temporary marhooum, temporarily, as he might give me a nightmare that will wake me up with unstoppable laughter.

#mokhleseem


Hajminator

Kharmagass jan,

by Hajminator on

Do you remember the poem from Vahshieh Bafghi that I cited once on IC? It has tones of un-kasher words - somehting like 3 to 4 such terms per ryhme, do you remember? I always have that poem somewhere in my pocket and think even that I can recitate it by heart. Farmayeshat shoma ra ejra khaham kard.


Zal

Hollyusa, my comment was directed to jj and I suppose he can

by Zal on

answer if he wants to. you just took what I said, interpreted it the way you wanted to, added some brown nosing and a condescending comment to it and then added a poor alternative. depending on your response to mine and then mine to yours and so on, we could be considered provoking each other but a fair minded person would agree that you started the sequence. I expressed an opinion to the editor based on what I see. You can express yours to him or to general reader without twisting or leveraging mine. Specially as this is a relatively important matter in terms of the credibility of this website.

On DK's temper I was referring to what I have read and in my opinion he is a decent dude and a Monarchist but at least he has the courage to put his picture up and stand for what he believes. And I enjoy some of his posts and think he adds to this site more than most. And there are many sharp edged comments, mine included, that does not mean he is responding angrily. That has little to do with the point of my comments to jj which is self evident as it is here. There are many ways to moderate a site including reputation and other tracking and accumulative measures but that is/was not the center of my comment.

Now to your point about lengesh kon (provocative?), all I would say is that you sound like you know very little about web and the associated technologies and processes. Unless, jj puts in a relatively well fortified registration process, anyone can register a 1000 times (as many do, specially IRR agents and apologists) so blocking is not very effective if user wants to get in and comment. IP tracking won't help much either as there are a 1000 ways to avoid that. The more tech based approaches will be costly and I have no idea what the finances of IC are like and be glad to help them if they asked.

To take the point about time while we type, you could have thought before you typed but you did not. And then jumped into two mohandes' conversatio with a beel.

 


kharmagas

Hajminator-e azeez, one more thing

by kharmagas on

Please make sure you have some of KhAkshir-e Esfahani's poetry (*) writen and ready for the occasion of Kadivar's resurrection and welcoming.

(*)KhAkshir utilized lots of un-kosher words in expressing himself,  just like the temporary marhoum.