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Cameron

Have you considered the possibility that there are issues upon which reasonable minds can differ.  Mr. Et has some very valid comments as do you.  Why is it that one has to collapse into discrediting the other's integrity.  You are a graduate student or a professor correct?  Do your collegues conduct themselves in this manner when they disagree?  Just so you know, ET is not a Zionist but he does possess sufficient cognitive capacity to address issues informatively rather than blindly adopting an agenda and spewing barf all over the floor of the forum. 

Thank you dear Cameron

For the tolerant advise that I leave this site and the kind words that followed filled with "love, human quest for its purpose, a pursuit for beauty and recognition of the fragility of our souls and vanity of our desires" based on "iota of sanity, fairness, knowledge and objectivity." and  "critical thinking".

I really appreciate your spirited expressions which brought  "awakening of the human spirit, an enlightenment that we all have been barred from attaining"

In fact because of that in addition to faceless and nameless, I am now speechless and if it was up to you virtually homeless too!

Yes Israel is to blame for denying Palestinians of a home .

But then you are right, how would you know that I am not a Neocon Zionist in disguise just as how would anyone know that you really received email from a research colleague that "13 of his family members were killed (including women and children) in one go by the Israeli F-16". I guess we can or can not take each other on face value.

I truly wish you the best in this wonderful journey of "life"  

Re; David

I forgot to congratulate you on the choice for your blog header by a quote of  our sacred Cyrus of Anshan[pbuh] , I give this blog an A++ just for that header & offcourse the blog itself is an icing on the cake . & it,s also noteworthy to remind you that the Qadesiyeh regime has faked it,s own brand of student union outta basijiis called Daftareh tahkimeh vahdat [Taiffeh Shiraz] to discredit & distort the real tahkim vahdat [taiffeh Allameh] group and they failed miserably . To be honest tahkim must rename itself away from this old ommati name and re-invent utself according to the new psyche of the patriotic movement . There were talks I read somewhere to name it with new national title but were faced with arson threats by basijii gangs . We all care for Innocent souls in Ommati created bloodshed . You are on the right track pal & you will get there . Just keep clear off the noise .

Cheers!!!

Our prayers for all innocent victims of Pan-Arab Jehadists wether in Palestine/Israel/Afghanistan or Ommati occupied Iran .

David ET ... take my advice.

David,

I strongly suggest that you take the same advice as I gave ZION before (if you are not the same person) and take your garbage elsewhere as many here in this site are well informed individuals.  You stand no chance in manipulating them through your truth bending efforts.

In the name of opposing the oppression in Iran and attacking the IRI you are clearly defending atrocities committed by a bunch of fascists contradicting anything that is called human values.

Your historical presentation is not only skewed but inaccurate.  Your political analysis is not only insane but obscene.  And your arguments are nothing more than mental masturbation!  And your subtle attack on my person and my work will not help.

If you had any civil courage you would have attached your name and picture on your comments, but that would be too much to ask from someone producing and conceiving such thoughts, arguments and ideas as you do.  

Please do not waste our time by your gagaguya and pure propaganda on this site …  I am sure there are plenty Neocons and Zionists sites you can get an audience at.   If you want I can help you to find them.

Red Cross: 4 children were found starving beside the bodies of

their mothers. Recovery teams ventured into battlegrounds of the Gaza Strip on Thursday to gather bodies from the rubble, and Hamas officials said the Palestinian death toll in Israel's 13-day-old offensive had risen to 765.

Local ambulance crews and the Red Crescent, using a time slot coordinated with Israeli forces, said they collected rotting corpses in places that had been too risky to reach since Israeli forces began a ground attack six days ago.

They found four children starving beside the bodies of their mothers and evacuated scores of trapped and wounded, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said

Regarding Hamas

Hamas and IRI have both failed – it is time they stepped down. They are simply incompetent and don't want peace and use 'wars' as a tool to stay in power. They are warmongers just like the neocons and supporters of militay Industrial complex.

Modern history has proven that democracy and incompetent governance aren't mutually exclusive. For example, George W Bush and Mikhail Saakashavili were both democratically elected and yet they are responsible for disastrous wars.

Clearly, Hamas has not mastered the art of politics, and as the veteran British journalist Robert Fisk recently noted, they do not have the military discipline of Hizbollah. Hamas also baulked at the opportunity of reconciliation that was brokered by King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia last year and didn't mend the relations with Fatah that may have allowed them to take partial control of the vital Rafah crossing with Egypt.

Then there was the audacity of Khaled Mashaal, the Hamas supreme leader, who called for the launch of a third intifada on behest of his masters in Iran.

Dear Samsam

Yes the head of the dragon is in Tehran and Ghom and Hamas and Hezbollahs are only its tails.

For blaming both sides I am being called a pro Zionist here , but then guess who else is called pro-Zionist by IR : 

 Daftar Tahkim Vahdat , the major Iranian MUSLIM student organization who also blamed both sides in Gaza as well as Iran's government for supporting the terrorist group Hamas:

part of the statement by students in Iran :

"Those who have armed and encouraged groups like Hamas - which only yesterday did not hide its sympathy for the criminal Saddam Hussein, and which declared three days of mourning after his death - have innocent blood on their hand in the hostilities. Now it is they who must be accountable to humanity, and it is they who must explain this tragic situation.....

....Israel's current crimes in Gaza are strongly condemned - but it is equally [important] to condemn the terror organizations that use kindergartens and hospitals as a shield against the [Israeli] attacks. [Hamas's use of human shields] prepares the ground for intensified bombardment [by Israel] and for the killing of children and civilians, and [therefore] it is an inhuman act.

...Daftar-e Tahkim-e Vahdat strongly condemns the current situation in the Gaza Strip and the killing of civilians and innocents. It believes that the sacrifice of defenseless people - especially children - is the result of other conflicts in the regional and international arena......It had been expected that peace and human rights organizations would have done more to stop this inhuman slaughter before the disaster reached such [devastating] proportions - despite the difficulties thrown up by certain leaders..."

More details: //iranian.com/main/blog/david-et/iranian-islamic-students-oppose-support-hamas

Full statement in Persian 

I second Cameron: SHAME ON DAVID

for trying to use the genocide blood for his cheap-untimely propaganda.

There is plenty of space and plenty of time to spread your Zionist garbage Mr. ET. Your cheap attempt was in extreme bad taste.

Israeli DIRTS have put 1.5 million Gazans in a bottle of a concentration camp, and are pouring bombs, including incendiary bombs on a closed prison.

A jew with experience of concentration camps can not find this disgusting enough to dilute it like your garbage is trying to do??!!

AND, this blog is the perfect example that JJ was talking about, "commenting on your own blog?"

The obvious repeated goldfish person on this site better SHUT UP. You are not fooling anyone, pest of a creature!!

Thank you David jan for

Thank you David jan for being the only voice of reason on this site.

Just last week, there were 3 stonings of men and limb cutting of others. I don't ever hear any of the usual suspects to decry outrage or a whisper against the atrocities done to citizens of their own country.

Good job site ; )

You see , it,s all fair if they get the taste of their own medicine(copying others id,s) . That,s all that is asked for ......fairness...Guess JJ is in charge now and not some excited juvenile .

lol , you have patience of Ayoub

David , why even waste ink & prescious time explaining yourself to the clueless . The audience that matter  are the true patriots & unbiased public who get it . leave the ommati zombiis to hellucinate on planet Mars or their fairy tale Pan-Arab dream of madinah-tol-Fazeleh .  The Ommati occupation of Iran , mind you, is partly with complete support of their ommati cousins Hamas ,Hezbollah & Iraqi Badr ,al-dawa who are partners in crime in cultural , social & phisical genocide against our compatriots in Iran . 2 outta every 10 top ranking Ommati in regime has close family , blood & inlaw  ties to either Hezbollah or other Arab jehadists in ME . Iran in effect being milked as a sacrificial lamb for Jehadists by their henchmen in Tehran . Zavelghadr , Al hussieni, Khair saleh , mousavi khazireh, and so on are just a few top ranking sepah connection , IRGC head Jaafari,s own daughter is married to shaikh mesri a top ranking hezbollah commander ..these bastards are all part of a pan-arab cult .. In order for all nations in ME(including Palestine) to get a life , you need to cut the head of the snake(Zahhak) in mullah land .

Cheers & keep well pal !!!

Javid Iran & Yadmaneh 23 tabareh Javidan 

shame and shame2

Now that you two vented. Now this is a good start.

Deep Breaths

Now start finding a middle ground. GW will be gone soon , so get back to table and negotiate like to human beings

I am not ashamed for being a zionist defender

We have a very good relationship. Our leader Neem Pahlavi has ordered us so. We don't mind to be use for the zionist cause as long as they praise us and defend us. Nobody takes me serious but the zionists do and that's good enough for me and my friends.

AnonForever

What is really amazing to me is how arrogant and ignorant these people are.

Believe me they are exalted only in their own fantasies. In reality, they are just a bunch of inconsequential nobodies.

Children of Gaza: "don't bomb us, stop killing us!"

275 children have been killed by the zionist rgime of Tel Aviv. It was reported by the United Nations today. Shame on you defenders of mass murders. You are the weak links on Iranian website that's why you support the fascist regime of Israel. Shame on you, stop talking about unity. You are full of hatred and are blinded by it. You are another tool in the toolbox of zionist jews.

I agree with zion

I dont know why is it that we have to all gang up on good iranians who are against IRI & Arab imperialists on this site . they are actualy telling the truth . we are all a bit illogiacal . and too fanatical . I personaly dont know much about middle east and shouldn,t jump on smart people who know .

Dear Cameron

I have nothing against you personally or your preferences , those are your rights .

But I am glad you somewhat got off your high horse and are starting to walk with the rest of us before you go back to the "love, human quest for its purpose, a pursuit for beauty and recognition of the fragility of our souls and vanity of our desires. " that you elequently talked about until today.

but Hamas IS a terrorist organization . Anyone who INTENTIONALLY kills innocent people is a terrorist, no if's and but's about it.

and NO Iran's homeland security is NOT "ensured" by "Palestine, Lebanon, Venezuela, and all other countries who to various degree express loyalty (from Hezbollah as a direct political and military arm of Iran to Hamas as a recent satellite of Iran)" !!!!!!!

Our homeland security is jeopardized by Islamic Regime who has INTENTIONALLY CREATED THE ATMOSPHERE OF FRICTION WITH THE WORLD SINCE 1979 .

and unlike what you said ,  as an Iranian the situation in Iran is VERY unique to me and I care about it as the situation in other countries is unique to their citizens too.

I thank you that after all the emotionalism and blames, you did end up expressing your true views  and priorities such as :

"'As the matter of fact, Palestine, Lebanon, Venezuela, and all other countries who to various degree express loyalty (from Hezbollah as a direct political and military arm of Iran to Hamas as a recent satellite of Iran), ensure our homeland’s security. '"

'YOU need to correct yourself in calling Hamas a terrorist organization. The time of truth-bending is over. No one buys this garbage no more. At least no one with an iota of sanity, fairness, knowledge and objectivity.'

"As far as Iran, I must say, the situation is not unique.  Numerous other societies are struggling with oppression of various kinds and to various degrees"

IT IS JUST AMAZING HOW IN THE NAME OF HUMAN RIGHTS YOU STRONGLY OPPOSE ISRAEL'S ACTS IN GAZA (which I do too) BUT THEN YOU DEFEND A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION SUCH AS HAMAS WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY ISLAMIC REPUBLIC TOO . OH I FORGOT THAT IS GOOD FOR OUR HOMELAND SECURITY !!!!

You see! I had sensed your fit had more to it than  the email that you said you received ; The comments such as the ones above,  proved me right.

As for your personal comments about me , there is nothing there worthy of response that matters.

peace

I ahave to agree with zion

I think he has a point .sorry to be a bit emotional .

War crime is a war crime is a war crime, what part of this sen-

tence you war mongers don't get? Those who try to change the subject to Iran are either ignorant or think other people are stupid. Open up your eyes and ears and listen to the people of the world you mass murders's defenders.

Israel has enraged a whole world. What a bunch of losers you all are. Stop teaing your behinds go to Iran and fight them there if you have the heart and coviction! You all just have a big mouth and a computer in front of you that's all.

On The Awakening of Human Spirit

Very glorious indeed:
'I do not believe that the human crisis we are experiencing today can be solved by a new political party or more guns or a new economic system. Rather by an awakening of the human spirit, an enlightenment that we all have been barred from attaining.'

Indeed. Like the way it is manifested in Hamas, which is wrongly accused of being terrorist where in fact, it is nothing but an instance of just such a spiritual enlightenment:
'YOU need to correct yourself in calling Hamas a terrorist organization. The time of truth-bending is over. No one buys this garbage no more. At least no one with an iota of sanity, fairness, knowledge and objectivity.'

Now, did you learn what humanity, dignified life and spiritual enlightenment means children?

to: Kaveh

it's amazing how simple a concept it is, yet no one seems to get it. you hit the nail on the head. why AREN'T other arab countries themselves supporting palestine? it's the arrogance of some of the exalted regulars on IC who insist they are just so upset by the violence against these "poor innocent people" without trying to see the other side.

Thank you David

You said it. Harfeh deleh ma ro zadi.

I am sorry but Nilufar Jan just look :

at what you are saying -----

Palestinians are in Dire need of support. iranians can manage for a little while with less attention. it is perfectly alright given current events.

this is what IRI have used in the last 30 yrs, to divert our attention from our own problems. I am not saying you are an agent, not at all, but this mentality has enabled them to survive and continue to occupy our country.

The zionist timing!

The main problem for zionists is the timing! They only have limited time (a week or so) to finish their genocide before the whole world is standing up to them. That's why they are desperate for any kind of distraction they can get to divert attention from their slaughter of civilians in gaza.

That is why zionists all over the world are crying, begging: Please, please... LOOK, there's Darfur, Chechen, IRI... Please, anybodoy?! ...anything but Gaza!

OMFG

No such conflict in Iran? The IRI is bankrolling the conflict.

The focus is upon Gaza because of Iranians on this website who blame the Israelis for everything in the region.

Typical Iranian thinking: denegrate the ways of others when your own house is a bloody mess.

The Palestinians need outside help? Then where are the other Arab countries? Why aren't they helping? Could it be because they realize themselves that Hamas and Hezbollah are the true problem? Where is Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia in this conflict? Why aren't they jumping up and down screaming? Why aren't they attacking Israel in retaliation? Why isn't there all out war? It's not like the US can do anything about it. They can't even handle Iraq and Afghanistan, remember?

Maybe because deep down they know who the real problems is.

If you feel hit .,, for real shame on you!

Dear David ET

It is amazing what you write.  I am stunned and feel sad about your inability of comprehending what I posted about the murdered ones.

In response to you, about shame on you or shame on us or shame on me.

If you condone the Israeli’s actions …  then for sure I mean SHAME ON YOU!

For one YOU need to correct yourself in calling Hamas a terrorist organization.  The time of truth-bending is over.  No one buys this garbage no more.  At least no one with an iota of sanity, fairness, knowledge and objectivity.

I am flattered that you took the time to browse through my previous work, and sad at the same time that you have missed the point of everything that I have written in the past.  I do take the responsibility for not being a good writer as my message clearly has not gone through and lost in much symbolism.  A message that contains love, human quest for its purpose, a pursuit for beauty and recognition of the fragility of our souls and vanity of our desires.

However, please take a look around and see what is happening in the world.  Read a bit of history and apply some critical thinking.

I may not have written an article about current world affaire and I probably will not either in the future, for the simple reason that I do not believe that the human crisis we are experiencing today can be solved by a new political party or more guns or a new economic system.  Rather by an awakening of the human spirit, an enlightenment that we all have been barred from attaining.

As far as Iran, I must say, the situation is not unique.  Numerous other societies are struggling with oppression of various kinds and to various degrees.  No one (me included) has justified or tried to divert attention for this fact.  But that is not what the issue being brought up was.

Finally, I am happy that you (or rather your thoughts as you hide behind a probably fake name and no picture) demonstrate, express and solidify everything that stands for oppression itself, when instead of agreeing with what is going on today in one part of the world is wrong, but instead you try to justify it by pointing out to wrongdoings in another part of the world!

I wish light can enter your heart and pure thoughts can direct your actions and speech.

Kindly yours,

Cameron

thanks

i must add my thanks to David as well. of course the usual suspects will soon come and demonize him for his views (humanitarian versus anti-semitic) but at least he's making an effort. those of you who "insist" your not anti-jews can continue with your hyprocrisy all you want. i see NO ONE voicing an opinion on other REAL genocides yet your out here in packs attacking isreal. it's ok. you don't have to pretend. we all know who you are and what you stand for. just don't pretend like you give a crap about the palestineans.

david jan

to me, violations by israel and iran are completely different things.i don't mean just in their styles, but in that they are 2 different countries with their own sets of unrelated issues.

at the moment, there is a slaughter of palestinians going on. there is no such conflict in iran. we are focussing on palestine because that is the most intense and heart-wrenching injustice going on right now that we are aware of.

that is what i meant by your timing being awkward. you came across as insensitive. and i know there are other injustices going on. but this one just won't go away. being 'even-handed' right now is to be confused.

then there is the crunch issue: i do Not believe in outside interference in iran unless there is total collapse of the state or civil war. even then it is not always justified. but Palestinians desperately need outside help or they face certain calamity.

lets oppose both. but lets first try to put a stop to this carnage beamed out into our living rooms constantly.

palestinians are in Dire need of support. iranians can manage for a little while with less attention. it is perfectly alright given current events.

Peace!

The zionist timing!

The main problem for zionists is the timing! They only have limited time to finish their genocide before the whole world is satnding up to them (a week or so..). That's why they are desperate for any kind of distraction they can get to divert attention from their slaughter of civilians in Gaza.

That is why zionists all over the world are crying, begging: Please, please, please... LOOK, there's Darfur, Chechen, Ebadi, IRI... Please, anybodoy?! ...anything but Gaza!

To Lily

You seem to be staying current on David's activities.  Not enough clients to keep you busy?  (wink wink)