The Longest War-Never Again

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The Longest War-Never Again
by Fair
22-Sep-2010
 

The Longest War

It was 30 years ago today, a beautiful first day of autumn in Tehran.  The leaves were turning brown, the hot summer was becoming mercifully tempered by the now cooler air from the Alborz Mountains. The universities had been closed by Khomeini's government 5 months earlier for ideological reasons.  However, school age children all over Iran were busily rushing to and excited to attend their first day at school for the academic year. There was young energy and happiness everywhere.

And then it happened.

At 12:30 Tehran time, a force of almost 200 Iraqi jet fighters viciously attacked 11 cities in Iran, the majority entering Iranian airspace undetected.  Their targets were 8 Iranian airbases, 5 airports, 4 major army installations, early warning sites, and some refineries.  Simultaneously, 6 Iraqi armored divisions roared over the Iran Iraq border into the provinces of Khuzestan in the south, as well the central and northern sections of the border. Their objective was to capture Khuzestan and annex it to Iraq as "Arabistan", with its capital "Al-Ahwaz". The war was supposed to take only several days.  Instead it took 8 years, becoming the longest war ever fought in the 20th century.  It was also the only war in the 20th century in which all superpowers supported both sides and ensured that no side won.

The revolution had happened less than 2 years earlier, and the Ayatollahs had taken 52 American diplomats hostage less than a year earlier, thus isolating Iran tremendously and ruining its international image.  They also had systematically dismantled Iran's armed forces, which Iraq had feared strongly for years before.  Many of Iran's best officers, some of the most highly trained pilots, soldiers, sailors, and marines in the world had been purged from their duties-either expelled, imprisoned, or executed, imprisoned. While some were completely devoted to the former Shah, many would have gladly served their country but could not pass a religious/ideological screening.  Only several months before, the Nojeh coup attempt had occurred, and hundreds of Iran's best pilots were in prison or decommissioned, and some of their most senior comrades executed without trial.

As a result of these actions, Iran had less than 1 armored division in Khuzestan, with virtually no command.  Its air force was at a small fraction of its former strength, and Saddam Hussein and his allies were convinced that this war would take only several days, and would be short.  

But they had forgotten one thing-the resolve of the Iranian people.  Those advising Saddam ignorantly thought that Iranians were divided, and that those who could fight would not because they were at odds with their government.  They failed to realize that Iranians loved their country more than they hated their government.  Then president BaniSadr moved quickly to plead with the clergy to release hundreds of imprisoned pilots and other officers.  These pilots joined their comrades in the fight against the Iraqi invaders. They surprised the world when they showed the failure of Iraq's air assault, and launched devastating attacks into all parts of Iraq, destroyed the Iraqi Navy and cut them off from the Persian Gulf. It would take almost two years before the Iraq invaders would be expelled from Iran at the great turning point of this war- the liberation of Khorramshahr on May 24, 1982.  The Iraqi invasion and Saddam's sick dream of "Qadessiyeh" had failed miserably.  This was the greatest victory for the Iranian people in our modern history, and all Iranians fought side by side to show the world they are wrong and we are Iranians.  We will not submit to shame and we will not accept humiliation.

Today is 30 years later.  We must take lessons from those days very carefully.  We won and made Iran a graveyard for the invaders.  But we did so at a cost.  8 years later, after 1 million dead, thousands of innocent chemical victims, millions of displaced Iranian civilians, and almost $1 trillion in damage, the war came to an inconclusive end.  The world had armed Saddam, one of the most incompetent military men in middle east history, with whatever it took to prevent Iran from winning.  Saddam Hussein emerged from this war with one of the largest militaries in the world after 8 years, only to be crushed in 100 hours by the US led coalition in 1991.

In 1980, logic and reason said that Iran should have suffered defeat quickly, and Iranian people's resolve overcame that massive obstacle.  It was not easy, and it was long and painful, and we and our children and grandchildren continue to pay for it.

I don't ever want to see any war every happen again on Iranian territory.  This was our "Never again" experience.  Never again should an Iranian child be running from a barbarian's missile fired at her home.  Never again should an Iranian child lose her father, mother, family, or home to aggressors.  Never again should any of our compatriots be put in a position where they hold a rifle and an RPG, and the other side has thousands of tanks, planes, and chemical weapons that they can use at will. We are Iranians. We want peace, and we, more than anybody else, know the value of peace.  We as a country should be on a path towards peace and strength, not confrontation and weakness.  We should have a strong positive international image, with a strong economy and industry, and a pluralistic modern system in which Iranians of all persuasions are included.  I will let the readers decide whether we have this or are even on our way to such a situation today.  But at least we can agree that that should be our goal.

The only victors in this war were the incumbent superpowers, their arms industries, and all those who benefitted from cheap oil.  The greatest losers of course, were the people of Iraq and Iran.

On this memorable day, I ask all Iranians and Iraqis to take a moment to reflect on this vicious conflict and its victims, and on all those wonderful people who are no longer with us.  I cherish their memories everyday, and ask "why"?  There is no good answer.  The only decent attempt at answering this question is to learn from our mistakes and make peace, coexistence, and tolerance a priority so more wonderful people don't have to leave us in the future.  Perhaps then, and only then, can we say our loved ones' lives were not lost in vain.

In the hope of that day.

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Cost-of-Progress

dipstick of all persuations

by Cost-of-Progress on

tagord must be pressed from the Hezbollah high command..(LOL) to get info here; he's persistent. Like I said roosh ziyade.

This dipshit has tried to get answers to where I went to high school before - like he'd know where that would be - to pass on to his bearded anti iran goons.

No more information for you tagord.

Now scram.

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IRAN FIRST

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Fair

The REAL Fraud is you the terrorist

by Fair on

Oh, I can answer these questions alright.  I just won't do so for a terrorist like you.  I have provided enough details of my combat record without making it easy to identify me.  Indeed there are many veterans of this war who are not in good standing with mullahs and will take steps to protect their identity.  The fact that you have not encountered any of them (if you are not lying) means YOU are a fraud when it comes to researching about this conflict.  Like I said, you are nobody to pass judgement on anybody here, you are a stateless terrorist who parasitically benefits at the expense of the Iranian people. I did what what my country needed me for, which is WAY more than I can say for you (depending on which country you are from).


Sargord Pirouz

What a cop out, Fair. You're

by Sargord Pirouz on

What a cop out, Fair. You're the very first person I've encountered that hasn't provided specific details of their combat record. All the rest are quite proud to answer such questions. And they live in Iran. They're not cowards."OPSEC," what a joke.

YOU"RE A FRAUD, unless you can answer these questions.

I have to say, this doesn't come as a big surprise. Still, it does dishonor the real veterans. Despicable. 

 

 


Sargord Pirouz

Anon

by Sargord Pirouz on

There are a number of Iranian veterans on the web that are more than happy to answer questions, verify information and provide invaluable technical assistance. Just last month they helped me identify the rank and unit of a particular soldier in a submitted photo.

So you're plain wrong, Anon. But that's no surprise: you're merely displaying stereotypical emotionalism. 

Anyway, looking forward to the answers... 


Fair

Thank you all, let us never forget

by Fair on

Thank you all for your kind comments, and thank you MM for authoring that heart wrenching yet inspiring story of two human beings that happen to be from Iran and Iraq.  Wonderfully Done. Let us never forgot those of us who never came home.

 

As for the terrorist stateless troll who gives himself the rank of major, I am sure indeed you are looking forward to the answers to yourquestions, as are your bosses in MOIS and VEVAK.  Why don't I just make it easy for you and go ahead and give you my full name, address, phone number, hours of movement, etc. so you you and your barbarian masters can do to my what you did to hundreds of patriotic innocent Iranians living abroad.  OPSEC is indeed applicable here, because there is still a war going on (your military dictator and his top general Jaafari and the rest of his junta call it jange narm.  If you don't understand what that means, find an Iranian who can translate it for you badbakht).

This is what they do to IRGC war heroes families who were completely loyal to the supreme leader and gave their lives during the war:

//www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/2010/09/100922_l...

 

Again, you can ask an Iranian to translate for you.  This is the treatment that loyal soldiers of this regime get, why should I expect to be treated any kinder.  I am an open opponent of Khomeini and Islamic rule, and would immediately be judged "at war with God".

 

So, self proclaimed terrorist major, I will gladly answer these questions one day when Iran is free and Iranians are free to speak and believe what they wish.  In the meantime, perhaps you can share with the readers here where your rank of major was obtained.  Otherwise, you can take your questions and put them where your head is (a place where the sun does not shine very much).  The simple fact is, you turned your back on the people of Iran when we were invaded in 1980 in our greatest moment of need, and you turn your back on them today.  You are nobody to speak of Iran and patriotism and call anybody else "exile" or "rejected", as you do not speak for Iran or our people, and have betrayed them bitterly.


Sargord Pirouz

Yeah right, Rostam. These

by Sargord Pirouz on

Yeah right, Rostam. These are the types of questions posed to many combat veterans, particularly from military historians.

I have contacts with military historians in Iran. The information could be useful. It also requires verification.

That should be straightforward. Looking forward to Fair's answers.


maziar 58

thanks fair

by maziar 58 on

for remiding every body of those 8 sensless years in the history book of our lives ; yes indeed NEVER AGAIN.

no need to mention my personal loses just to say that at my age reading your blogs brought non stopable tears.........

BTW SARGOH  PLEASE TAKE YOUR 7 Q's and ....it .          Maziar


Anonymouse

Good blog. Thank you for ur service. R u the 2nd in the picture?

by Anonymouse on

Everything is sacred


Bavafa

An absolutely beautiful and heartfelt blog

by Bavafa on

"Never again" should be engraved in every ones mind, heart and soul. The devastation caused by a moronic war that touched so many lives either directly or indirectly is sickening.

I also like to take this moment to thank every person regardless of the source of their motivation, ideology or reasoning for taking arms and defending Iran for their services.

Dear Fair, I salute to you for your sacrifice and services to our mother land and defending her.

Mehrdad

P.S. thanks MM for sharing that story and link


vildemose

  Dear Fair: We honor

by vildemose on

 

Dear Fair: We honor your service and sacrifice and salute you for being the voice of those whose lives were taken away too soon for nothing else but pure dogma and hatred of others in their hearts.

Unfortuantely, an entire class of Basij and hizballoh have been raised on nothing else but hatred, racism, and love of war to become canon fodders when the old greedy men are ready to utilize them when their power to plunder the national resources is threatned to cease.  

I'm fed up to the ears with old men dreaming up wars for young men to die in.
George McGovern


Rostam

Sargord Pirouz

by Rostam on

You are asking very good questions indeed Sargord, very much like an Iraqi officer would ask his prisoner during the war, or a Gestapo officer would ask one of his many preys, or... perhaps more likely, an IRI information ministry officer would ask his soon to be tortured victim...

But what you should know is that we don't need a garbage like you who can't even speak Farsi to come in here and interrogate a good man and a survivor of the war. In other words and in simpler terms that someone like you could underestand: Go fxxx yourself asshole.

People like you need a "full treatment" in a place like Evin in order to understand why people might be reluctant to indulge you with their personal information and specially with the full details of their past military service. Unfortunately, you and your cohorts have not yet been on the victim end of the stick, but rather have always been on the "interrogator" side of the stick.

And this creates habits that are difficult to quit. Does it not, troll?

Fair, I salute you and I hope we Iranians continue to remind ourselves of the horrors of the Iran-Iraq war and the pain and suffering that it brought to all the mothers, families and soldiers, many of whom to this date are still paying the price for the arrogance of Saddam and the incompetence of the mollahs as well as for the indifference of Khomeini for human lives.

An arrogance, incompetence and indifference that today is being sadly renewed and repeated in the likes of Ahmadinejad and his supporters. Let us pray that this time they will not succeed in leading our country to yet another disastrous war.


Cost-of-Progress

Thanks for this blog

by Cost-of-Progress on

We Iranains are resilient people. Look at us: from arabs (Ghadesiyeh) to Taymoor to Changeez to Ottomans, to Brits and of course, the second Ghadesiyeh, we're still standing. We're battered and bruised; our identity is subject to constant attack, we are known as representatives of a pariah state, yet we persevere, we  survive and we move on.

You are absolutely right: It is our resolve and determination that made us survive the Iraqi attacks as well as 31 years of constant assault on our identity and culture.

This too shall pass. I only hope we learn from it

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IRAN FIRST

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Azarin Sadegh

@MM: Reality more shocking than fiction

by Azarin Sadegh on

I just finished watching The Tale of the Two Soldiers...WoW!

I think JJ wants us to have one full seance of "geryeh zaari" each night! last night I watched the Still Life and sobbed like a lunatic and now this...If I had read a book with this synopsis I'd have dismissed it as being too cheesy.

But kidding aside, thank you so much for this wonderful documentary! I think everyone should watch it and I wish I could provide a link in English for my non-Iranian friends.


Sargord Pirouz

Agree, Fair. War is the

by Sargord Pirouz on

Agree, Fair. War is the worst. 

On another thread you provided an incomplete service record of your war experience in the IRIA, claiming "OPSEC." 

Why "OPSEC?" You're not currently IRIA, and you're not part of VEVAK. Nor are you part of US IC, as no one from such would make the comments you do here on Iranian.com. 

So here's the relevant questions again, plus a few more:

1) Dates of conscripted military service.

2) Unit(s) you served in. 

3) Name of your Brigade or Division Commander.

4) Dates served on the southern Khuzestan area. Was that your only posting?

5) What campaigns were you involved with post-liberation of Khorramshahr?

6) Specific armored vehicle(s) and AT weaponry you were trained on. 

7) Your induction and retirement ranks. 

Looking forward to your responses. 


MM

Fair - Thanks for a passionate plea

by MM on

I also put up a news story for the occasion on two Iraqi&Iranian soldiers who first met each other in Khorramshahr and then 20 years later, they met again at the doorsteps of depression/PTSD with thoughts of suicide and how they helped each other this time, in Canada

برنامه های مستند بی بی سی: داستان دو سرباز ایرانی و عراقی در جنگ هشت ساله ایران و عراق

//iranian.com/main/news/2010/09/20-2

You may want to mention all the Khuzestanis who fought shoulder to shoulder in the Iranian Army and all the non-Iraqi Arabs from other countries and our own Iranian MKO who went to help Saddam

BBC estimated 3500 chemical attacks on Iranian targets that included 30 civilian ones //www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/2010/09/100920_war30th_iran_iraq_timeline.shtml

Bottom line - war is hell


Azarin Sadegh

Macabre remembrance...

by Azarin Sadegh on

Thank you so much, dear Fair, for this macabre reminder (especially now)....so powerfully and beautifully written!

"Never again should an Iranian child be running from a barbarian's missile fired at her home." 

Yes, Never, never again.