Musings of a former chicken

Tricyclist

First "have guts" to clarify your own previouse post with "tribe" and "you people". and the rest. Set an example to "have guts".

Iran Dokht Jan, Fozol, May Bokhor, Molla jan(s) and the rest...

Sorry for not calling upon you one by one. I know it's against the advices of the marketing strategiest but heck:

//iranian.com/main/blog/midwesty/lets-cast-another-type-vote

Let me have your vote. I know it is not going to meet your standards of data mining but let's at least try.

Thanks,

Fred,

Don't be a chicken: Vote here I want to see if you have guts to vote:

//iranian.com/main/blog/midwesty/lets-cast-another-type-vote

I might be able to make a facial drawing of you based on your vote. You never know!

:O) 

Saragord you're kidding right???

I guess you're just counting those that dare to still wear a uniform and you do not count the 400,000 soldiers who do not abide by the Geneva convention that stipulates that all combatants must wear a uniform and not disguise themselves as civilians 

Furthermore you seem to ignore those cowards you hail a freedom fighters WHO DO NOT HAVE THE GODDAMN GUTS to face American fighters ONE ON ONE and hide BEHIND HUMAN SHIELDS LIKE THE BIG GODDAMN COWARDS THEY ARE....

I apologize for cursing but I must address a liar when I see him...

Fred- The blog and its author ;)

Moosh to ro bokhoreh! The topic of your blog is inseparable from its authorS!  We WERE responding to the subject of the blog, by discussing where that concoction comes from!  I know your buddy Bijan lobbies for you to become the next leader of Iran looool (which Fred anyway? Mother Yabu or from the Hate Brigade?), but to expect us to participate in AIPAC forums on the IC, is beyond hilarious, it's absurd, Honey :)  

America the blameless

 If the US launches its third concurrent war in the Mideast region, then naturally the blame lies with the Iranian regime (and yes, it is a ROTTEN regime). The American regime is blameless; it is innocent. It is merely "safeguarding America’s vital national interests", and therefore, attacking Iran would be legitimate and the fault of the Iranian regime. In fact, there seem to be no fundamental aggressive tendencies on the part of the US government in its behavior around the world that could account for its (possible future) decision to attack Iran. The blame never, ever lies with the most powerful regime in the world and the state most likely to occupy other nations and interfere in their affairs. So, if the US (or a certain freedom-loving, non-racist US client on the eastern shores of the Mediterranean) attack Iran, they are NOT at fault. They are the sane world and cannot be at fault for attacking other countries.

The predictables

It is certainly not surprising  to see all the Islamists/Anti-Semites and their likeminded lefty allies ignoring the topic of the blog and  practicing ad hominem which they constantly claim to be their pet peeve.  

Keep on trucking!

Some Freds are more Fredful than others ;)

loooool :) That says it in a Fredsshell!   All Freds are equal but some Freds are more Fredful than others.  I agree, Maybokhor jan, "the Hate Brigade" captures it in a Fredsshell :o)

@IranDokht

Some Freds are more Fredfull than others. I have started calling them "the Hate Brigade."

Mola and Fouzul

Now I know why I get different nicknames from Fred. Some are really funny, but the others are lame and loos. Not all Freds have a sense of humor...

Makes sense now! :o)  ThanQ all  ;-)

IRANdokht

Fouzul Bashi for a while Freds started to write like Mr Al Ahmad

Javad Al Ahmad, the long gone Iranian writer. Then Freds would change their style and write in a more contemporary style of writing. Then we have Freds English writing, one can see easily that it changes too. That's why Q started to suspect there were more than one Fred and indeed there are.   

Molla - کلید فرد باز کن :)

Absolutely Molla jan! :):)

The version well-versed in Sufi poetry is my favorite.  It brings to mind an image of Natan Yahu dressed up as Mother Theresa :):)  loool 

"there are more than one Fred, there are Freds: 

1. Freds who sound like a propaganda machine for Israel Lobby, non Iranians who write in English.

2. Freds who write in Persian in different styles, modern and traditional. They work 7 days a week on this website and other sites". 

Some notes

The Iranian dilemma is two fold. As we need to be careful and fight for our rights internally, we also need to watch the outside forces that are waiting to take our country to a direction against the will of people (as they have historically). Very important to remember.

Those who advocate, or assume that the US can get rid of IRCG in a short period must take a look at the way the backward guerrillas in Pakistan or Afghanistan, including Iraq have resisted the most powerful military on earth. Now take a look at the IRCG and the sophisticated system and make a prediction whether it is possible to get rid of IRCG. The answer is right in front of you all over the news.

It's like putting certain numbers in a calculator and expecting different results each turn. It doesn't work like that. US or Israel will not be able to accomplish the task, and the only thing in here would be that Iran will rush making a bomb and many other "bad" things for the western nations. Therefore the issue must be resolved diplomatically, the Iranians inside will take care of the system, give them time and support.

:O)

I have to admit man ...you are pretty entertaining! I got pissed in the other thread and now you make me laugh...only in Iranian.com....Man..I am still laughing...thanks! :O)

Tricyclist? you know that bicycles were originally evolved from Tricycles and only the grown ups could ride them...

Anyways I would be glad to have your pic man...email me....Let us see what the face of evil looks like! Just kidding man...take it easy...but send me your pic...ok?

Tricyclist

Either have the courage of conviction, do as you prescribed “have guts” or go play with your tricycle.

By the way I put my face out

Don't you want to show yours?

codewords,

is what you guys talk. Just wanted to show you that Iranians also have codewords and more!

Tricyclist

As I thought, have the courage of your conviction and instead of code words come out and say it "have guts" or get back on your tricycle and enjoy the scenery.

Fred,

As is indicative of your tribe, you guys always manage to channel everything into a pissing match. What a second-grader! Once again, another indication. Keep talking Fred.

Molla, it really doesn't

Molla, it really doesn't matter how many Fred's or Molla, or Q, or Shah Gholam or AIPAC OR NIAC there are. If you want to avoid a devestating war against Iran, you need to come to terms with your enemies grievances instead of constantly demonizing them otherwise, war would be inevitable. Unless, that is what the IRI is hoping for. I don't know at this point. With Khamanie being emasculated from power by the IRGC, the prospect of a diplomatic comprimise has become more unlikely in recent days.

Here is Juan Cole's article

Here is Juan Cole's article I posted yesterday but noone seem interested to respond. His analysis is spot on and requires further sober discussion to avoid a devestating war against Iranians.

That the hawks were able to veto the representative of Supreme Leader Khamenei lends credence to Gary Sick's argument that the Revolutionary Guards have carried out a soft coup behind the scenes and Iran looks more and more like a military junta.

I personally suspect that most Western officials involved in this matter know perfectly well that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program and does not want an actual bomb. I think the Western leaders do not want Iran to have nuclear latency, either, because it would change the balance of power in the Middle East and would take forcible regime change off the table as an option for the West."

//www.juancole.com/2009/11/iaea-condemnation-of-iran-omen-of-new.html#comments

I don't think the US or

I don't think the US or Israel will allow the military Junta leadership in Iran to ever get their hands on nuclear weapons. I hope they are ready for the consequences.

Mohammad Ali Ramin, Ahmadinejad's pro-Nazi advisor with dubious contacts with neo-Nazi parties in Germany

//azarmehr.blogspot.com/2009/12/who-stole-ramins-shoes.html

Who is Mohammad-Ali Ramin and why should we pay very close attention to what he has to say?

He is what Joseph Goebbels was to Hitler. He is the brain behind "Thug-In-Chief" Ahmadinejad, his hardline presidential advisor.

He is the editor-in-chief of Emamat monthly, a founder of the Association of the Islamic Path in Europe, and director of the Holocaust seminar in Tehran.

Like Ahmadinejad, he too is a member of the Shi'a branch of Islam, that rejects the first three Sunni caliphs and regards Ali, the fourth caliph, as Muhammad's first true successor.

He is Ahmadinejad's architect of the Caliphat, charged with the careful planning and realization of the global Dar-al-Islam, the time when Islam has subjugated the whole world, the time when Islam will be 'tolerant' for there will be none left to oppose or differ.

Born 1954, it is an eerie irony, that he was brought up and educated in the 'Vaterland' ; only after  completing his major in Mechanical Engineering and after founding the "Islamische Gemeinschaft in Clausthal e.V." (Clausthal is an hour's drive from Hannover, Germany) as well as other unspecified 'political activism', did he move his wife and three children back to his native home, the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Apart from bringing about the global Dar-al-Islam, his passion and academic work is dedicated to the revision of the Holocaust 'Myth'. Ramin was the one who initiated the idea of the "relocation of Israel" and also the idea, that "Holocaust is a myth". Ahmadinejad was just the messenger.

He himself accepted the full responsibility of this action. In an interview with the Financial Times (German version), Ramin stated that he has also initiated the "Holocaust commission" and that he is the founder of the Conference on Holocaust in Tehran.

His logic is as simple as it is evil: Should his committee determine that indeed 6 million Jews had been killed by the Nazis, then another committee must be assembled and determine a just punishment for Germany, which, oh quelle surprise, must include the transfer of German territory so as to establish a Jewish State.

Midwesty, there are more than one Fred, there are Freds,

1. Freds who sound like a propaganda machine for Israel Lobby, non Iranians who write in English.

2. Freds who write in Persian in different styles, modern and traditional. They work 7 days a week on this website and other sites. 

Our friend Q was the first one who mentioned it and I did notice it too. I have no doubt about it and of course the admins of iranian dotcom know it well.

Their (Freds) mission is to surf on the high tide of discontent created by the recent election in Iran. For example, If you suggest no sanction Fred(s) screams for sancitons, if you say OK some sancitons then Fred(s) demands for bombing Iran. It's obvious.

To Suicidal No Fear?

But this does not mean that they can't inflict harm and retaliate asymmetrically against US interests all over the world.

No fear, it is attitude like yours that will vaporize Iran into smitherens. The military industrial complex couldn't be  happier to olbige  if you retards in the IRI decide to do any of those asymmetrically stupid attacks. You might be able to inflict a few damage here and there but the retaliation against you morons will be disproportional and I can assure you it would leave none of you die hard basiji and IRGC member alive...

The Islamic REpublic's fatal self-deception about its power and position in the region and the world is going to cost only Iran's ultimate extinction. If that is what you vindictive morons are hoping for, you will certainly get it.

America can crush the Basij and pasdars in one week

My take is one week, although i am willing hear arguments for 10% more or less.  But the underlying result is beyond a doubt that the IRGC will be crushed.  The US will not send troops in, it does not need to, the primary purpose is not to instill a new regime, the Iranians will do that themselves.  The primary reason is to crush the IRGC forces, with it will perish the 120,000 or so Basij and pasdars who are brainwashed to kill Iranians, and any one who stands in their way.  So either kill the Basij or they will kill millions of Iranians, Americans, Israelis, and Arabs (to this group I will add Afghans and Pakistanis).  The math is simple and the  options even simpler: surgical attacks to destroy the IRGC. 

Gutsy poster

A poster says:

 “I have to admire your skills of deception which pretty much tells me from what tribe you are. As soon as you get me to believe that you might be an Iranian who really feels for his/her country, then something like this blog comes up resrufaces your "Pateh". What a shame that you people don't have the guts to take things in your own hands but rather try to either Americans or Iranians to do your dirty job.

Too much for brain work and not spending much from your own pocket. “

When you are admonishing others for not having “the guts” to do whatever you think they should be doing, the logical inference is that yourself do have “the guts”.

Therefore as a gutsy poster would you mind clarifying a few things in your post.

1-What do you mean by “you people”

2-What do you mean by “tells me from what tribe you are” what tribe do you think I, Fred, am from?

3-What do you mean by “Too much for brain work and not spending much from your own pocket”

Lets see if you have the guts to say it plainly and not hiding behind semantics.

Frthermore,

A nuclear IRI will not be any more dangerous to Iranians as it is now. Nevertherless, the ture Iraninas know it well the nukes will not shield the IRI from its own people as the Javidan Guard didn't for Shah. So why on earth you conjoin these two very different subjects, human rights and nuclear issue together?

Fred,

I have to admire your skills of deception which pretty much tells me from what tribe you are.

As soon as you get me to believe that you might be an Iranian who really feels for his/her country, then something like this blog comes up resrufaces your "Pateh".

What a shame that you people don't have the guts to take things in your own hands but rather try to either Americans or Iranians to do your dirty job.

Too much for brain work and not spending much from your own pocket.

Tim,

There is no way that Iran can stand up to US military in a conventional warfare. No one in the world can do that. But this does not mean that they can't inflict harm and retaliate asymmetrically against US interests all over the world.

Conventional warfares are obsolete. Iran rightly recognized this through its IRGC doctorine and has become exceedingly resourceful in asymmetrical warfares. Why buy expensive aircraft carriers when you can sink it with a cruise missile?

Sargord had a very good point that US casualties are on the "ground". What good is a military if it can't hold its position on the ground? These all point to a very serious flaw in conventional warfares. Did you know that Iran's conventional military is smaller than most of the countries in middle east? We practically don't have a military. However, we have tremendous asymmetrical capabilities which could cause serious and long lasting harm to the aggressor.

Iran, without a military , has more power than any other nation in the middle east. If it wants, it can derail peace process, distablize governments, cause a world wide economical crisis by using oil as a weapon, creat , support and organize insurgencies with modern weapons in ALL middle eastern countries, the list goes on and on, but in short Iran can creat havoc in the world if it feels threatened.

Thats the beauty of asymmetrics. Make the cost too high.

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