Anyway

good to see

ashura is another iranian holiday. It is a feast where nobody cook at home and everybody enjoy couple days off.

Sinezani, kir bezani

haji Aga, damet garm baba, gol gofti. Emam hosein koskesh, be manham hich komeki nakard ke to Iran yek kose doroste-hesabi bekonam ve hamishe dastam tu kiram bud.
Un kuni, be maha komak nakard ke in madar-qahbehaye eslami ro dorst beshnasim ke badan bad-bakht nashim.
Bebin, agar ma ye kami shenakhte dorost dashtim, alan be in ruz nayoftade budim.
Man ke aslan be hich dini etegad nadaram chon hamashun saro-tah yek karbasan.
I believe in science and evolution, becuase they give facts and statestics to believe in what they found, then they don't push you or force you to believe in the same thing. But in religion, there is no question, and you have to believe in what they say, no matter wrong or right.

Sinezani, kir bezani

Cho Iran nabashad, be tokhmam ke nist,
ravam caye digar, zamin gaht nist,
hame tan-be-tan kun be doshman dahim,
az an beh ke tan ra be koshtan dahim.

in kos-keshha, key mikhan adam beshan, mager tu Iran adam ahmag kam hast ke be in pofiyuzha ejaze midan to NY kir-zani bekonan.

the problem is I can not date women and this guy thinking about?

//hajiagha.tripod.com
you see Emam hussein never help me to date women in Iran or out of Iran, , or when I was in Iran ,Mullahs never help me to date women's muslims with no pussy looks like a death man, go head and read Koran and smash your fucking head in wall's for Emam hussein , but if you don't have any money you no body?.  no one looking at you as human. Emam hussein had several women in his place every night one pussy he was lucky man . but what about me , what kind islam is rafsanjani have 7 million dolor home in canada or in england or private island , jet....why because a man with no money =  no body,  and no pussy???

this guy on this video are family of those mullahs in Iran, I know because I talk to some of them, they are living from England to canada to Australia china all over the world with are oil because they are afraid may one day they need to ran a way from Iran to safe place.

John Carpenter himself

is the one of the guys who attends this event and goes under the Allam. I attended this ceremony and I saw how John Carpenter was crying how Imam Hossein was stabbed in the ass by Yazeed. What makes us guys to keep going to these events is not the love for Islam, Imam Hoeesin, or any of the nonsense, it's purely for free Khoresht'e Ghaymeh and Abgoosht. It has always been that way!

With that, I say

Ya Imam Hoseein Rafti, Be Kiram!
Chon Ghaymeh Polo Hast Ma Hameesheh Khaheem Amad!

Dameshoon Garm

I say dameshoon garm and the same to those who parade in NYC for Nowrooz. My kind of New Yorker Vatanis, BOTH.

The group of vatanis who parade in NYC and the ones who come out for Ashoura, are proud Iranians and eivaal.

In God We Trust

$

Na abbaas Na abalfazl... faghat poooooooooool!

What You are all missing !!

With the exception of a couple of you - the rest are missing the point.

This is the ISlamic Republic threatening America at our expense!!

The mullahs are portraying all of us as idiots like those who run the masjid Ali as pointed out by Mr. Carpenter.    If you recall about a year ago the mullahs had hinted they had 20,000 operatives in the US.   It's a big lie - but it can influence politicians in America, which is exactly what the mullahs are hoping for. 

REPLY : MUST SEE........................

Thank you very much for the Hint:.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG08LhjPGvw
She/He who has seen the Ashura ceremonies in tehran knowes now why the not any more so great satan has not yet dare to behave respectless against the honorable Iranian Nation. To that Nation count - up to my opinion - the ones who founded thier ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN 1978/79 , are living there and are willing to protect what they have achieved in during the last 30 yeras. The ones who suggest to deporte the mourning poeple in NY/Manhattan have also realized the political impact which these ceremonies have. Some others bring the american tolerance in the game unregarded the fact that being a believer is the obvious and natural right of human beings. so letting the believer practice thier religion has in the reality nothing to do with tolerance. ans how can God bless America as long as they themselves do nothing to get free from claws of the - however not any more - great satan? laying in its death bed and air snapping. Better americans do not wait passively but help a little to make the air snapping Phase as short as possible. Greeting

warning?

This could meant to be a warning to US that yes we have lots of "these kinds of people" in this country as well - so "watch out"

warning?

This could meant to be a warning to US that yes we have lots of "these kinds of people" in this country as well - so "watch out"

MUST SEE - My faviorit Ashura video -

I have not been to one of these in nearly 30 years ...
When I saw this video, I was so impressed ...

I view this as master PIECE OF ART - In this concert
you do not need any drugs to reach higher plane ...

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The road to spirituality and the little helpers : ZAR-ZARI

Music is to entertain, heal and also to channel or reach higher plane of spirituality.

There is mental state that one aspires to attain with help of music.

It is the pleasure that drives one toward the music. Pleasure induced through material means but result, the feelings can be spiritual.

From Western prospective, the MUSIC experience remains PURE in the sense the ritual remains primitive. As with old age shaman practices, one would have bit of this and that (acid, alcohol…)to help them reach the trance state. It takes more than music alone. There are the little helpers; the lights, the glitter, the frenzy of dance movement and the high adrenaline all to work together to induce the alter state.

In this particular approach we seek higher sate not in search of PURE pleasure and pleasure alone ...
but in search of spirituality ...
happens happens to be a byproduct and inconsequential.

The Eastern approach aims to take one to nirvana without the little helpers.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG08LhjPGvw

GOD BLESS AMERICA...This is called TOLERANCE;

Let's keep America free of Intolerance and Bigotry;

We need to learn and grow to this level of tolerance.

Peace for all mankind;

Deport these vermin!

Denatz them, if necessary and deport these vermin!   

Relax!

This is not as bad as you think. Prior to 9/11, the world had not seen these people in real life. Many thought "people are people," no matter where they are from, no matter what religion or religious denomination. By having these people in NY, making a mockery of their own religion, I do not think they need any enemies. The spectators (if there were any) can see that these are people who violate their own bodies for their zeal. Next time someone says these people are like everyone else, you can point at this (and those ghameh zanhaye Iraq and Iran) and say: " No, people are NOT the same everywhere. We have these sadistic beasts living in our very own country."

More contradictions

There is this organization that runs parties in New York City. The parties have DJs, pop music, and alcohol. The same guys that run these parties are the guys who come to the iiny masjid regularly. As I said they live a contradiction.

They serve Khamenei, but they are the most corrupt. Don't believe that one day of chest beating.

I believe their site was: persianguestlist.com

Run by Hizbollahis.

One of the co-ordinators of the persiangusetlist parties is related to Farah Pahlavi by marriage. And that guys family is in the wholesale rug business in New York.

Sinehzani in Manhattan and the Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi

Please go check out this site:

iiny.org

The Iranians who participate in the chest beating in Manhattan are from the Masjid in queens run by the islamic institute of New York(iiny). Who owns the iiny building where the masjid sits? Bonyad Alavi, the Alavi foundation. The Alavi foundation is a non-profit organization started by the Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi before the revolution. After the Revolution the Courts decided to give the Iranian government control of the organization to the detriment of the Pahlavis who believed they did not steal enough money.
Farah and Farahnaz Pahlavi both own 18 karat dildos.
Anyhow, the iiny is run independantly from the Iranian government but, the iiny and the Alavi foundation are pro-Khamenei. The majority of the masjid people are freeloaders. They just come for the free food. Free dinner is paid by new york city bazaris in the wholesale rug businesses and other businesses like the jewelry business in the diamond district in Manhattan.
These bazaris drink alcohol and eat pork 365 days a year in order to beat themselves for Ashura in order to gain a place in paradise. It is the ultimate "bedeh va bestoon" arangement.
Don't believe that all these guys are devout Shias.

Lack of Beverage in Karbala

Watching this little procession in NY brought back some fun memories from my childhood in Iran. I remember how me and the kids my age in the neighborhood used to get really pissed around Ashura when the regular programming on the radio and TV were preempted and religious marches were played for 3 straight days and these idiots would do this act on the streets leading to the Masjid where they were fed free meal, Halva and Sholeh Zard and Gheimeh (see my comments below). And that was what this whole thing was all about. We used to follow them from the sidewalks, hit them on the head with Hasteh Aloo and Hasteh Gojeh and make fun of the chants like…Dar Karbala Aab Nabood Pepsi Cola Bood .., Shishash Sefid o Khodesh Siah Bood or:
از كرج تا سنگ ِلك داور صدا ميزد فوله
بندهِ تمونت شله
Sorry that I missed it this year!

Invitation to this thread by ........Khar...

Khar,

 This is my contribution to this thread.

Have a nice day. :o)

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by KHAR (not verified) on Fri Jan 25, 2008 04:29 PM PST

Rosie and Nadia you two are missing a very interesting discussions under: "Sinehzani in NY, Ashura USA" on the home page. I like to hear what you two think.
Sincerely Khar.

PS. By the way check out my posts on that blog.

Rosie, Thank you for your profound and enlighted comments!

Maybe with your vast knowledge about everything, including the dark ages, you can comment on the facts quoted below about the Koran. It looks like you are changing the subject, and making complicated statements that some of us simple-minded people can not follow. Go ahead! Enlighten us! But please try to make simple statements. I am sure it is very difficult for you to do that! Sometimes a yes or no will do. Like do you agree with them? (Yes, or no).

I was asked to join this thread...

I was asked by someone on my own blog to participate in this discussion, so at the risk of being labeled again a civilizing missionary, I am doing so.  I want to tell  you that there was recently a rather exhaustive discussion on Ashura under the following entry:

//iranian.com/main/albums/crying-camera

And I’m posting my second to last post on it here but before I do I want to remind you that ritual of sacrifice is the foundation of ALL Abrahamic religions.  Ashura is repugnant to the mind of those brought up in the Secular Enlghtenment but the Secular Enlgihtenment has hypocritically unleased moie global violence than any previous ideology.  It is sad.  I have no opinion one way or the other about Ashura but I have to say that it is the exact same ritual as appears in Christianity with the wine/blood of Christ, except that it is less hypocritical.  Because the Secular Enlightenment was a direct result of Christianity which, along with the massacre of the Children’s Crusade, the Inquisition, and the Protestant massive-scale witch burnings, brought us atomic bombs and the Holocaust.

This is the post I refered to and anyone who’s interested can view the thread it responds to. Devout Muslims and secularists all participatedL  Man is half animal and half angel. At least in Ashura the violence is directed on oneself.  It is Islamicism, a POLITICAL ideology, not Islam, that harnessed the martyrdom of Shiism for its own ends.

My second to last comment on that discussion of Ashura:

 //iranian.com/main/comment/reply/16089/32929

They should be deported

They are terorists who live in USA. These are the same people who have destroyed Iran. Who even lets them into this country. I hope FBI has made note of them and deports them all back home.

These people have brought Iran's economy to its knees. People are freezing to death in a country with abundant natural gas resources.

These mules and facists are trying to display their ugly images on the streets of the most democratic country in the world.

This is not freedom of speech but impose of a fascist religion upon us.

Absolutely DISGUSTING!!!

Whoever was the jackass at City Hall who granted these morons a permit to assemble in the middle of Manhattan and yell Allah o Akbar just a few blocks from where a dozen other morons yelled the same thing before blowing up the WTC should lose their job.

I am all for freedom of assembly/religion/blah blah blah, but anyone who is going to do this in the middle of NYC obviously has no regard for the feelings of others who live there. I can only imagine what some of them must have been thinking when they saw this spectacle.

These people should all go to Saudi Arabia.

It's funny..........

I remember soon after Iraqi invasion, a lot of people in Islamic countries were saying " Bush and his administration are anti-Islam",

So to capture their heart George Bush invited tons of Islamic embassadors and their staff to the White House for an "EFTAARI " in Ramezaan ! and I was thinking, when Khomeini was saying " we're going to fly Islamic flag over the White House " he knew what he was talking about....LOL

I could not wait to see a "sofre hazrat-e kolsoom or a Sham-e Gharibaan " in white house as well !

Now with this video it looks like that those are next !!

Ridiculous!

THIS is what we sold the glory and splendor of the empire for? 2,500 years of magnificence exchanged for rule by a book of myths??? No wonder the rest of the planet ridicules us! Wow, just wow!

PLEASE LEAVE AND GO TO SAUDI ARABIA

Honestly WHY ARE YOU LIVING IN USA...... WHY......
IF YOU BELIEVE IN THESE IDEA YOU SHOULDN'T BE HERE BECAUSE YOU WILL GO TO HELL...... ACCORDING TO QURAN....SO LEAVE AND LET US LIVE....

RE: Do not be deceived:

Hi Dr. Maleknazeri Obgyn,

Thanks for making my day...I was laughing at my desk at work, and I couldn't lower down my voice!

I liked this part the best:

I see AYATOLLAHS KHOMEINI and KHALKHALI in my dreams every night. I see them with my own eyes that they are awfully busy with the virgins and ask me to give you this message.

People, I, like LEADERS of ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN, was nothing and nobody, with no education and no job. The glorious ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN gave me my title M.D. with no trouble,........

Very funny Dr.!...still lol

Dr?

Your last posting proves my point. They must have a way to extract people's brains from their heads (if any) before giving them an M.D.? Any relationship to Khalkhali?

To Mr. M.D.

You must be kidding, random executions. People just die in prisons with no explanations. No freedom to select your representative and you have a jack ass Rahbar that makes all the calls and a schizophrenic president that is itching to start a war and you call it glorious IRI. If you like it so much, why don't you go back there and live there.

by the way, I still think you are nothing, since years of education got you nowhere and you are still intellectually illiterate.

You are in denial

Its interesting. The comments on this is all over the place,
some think its the work of Inglisa, Islam,Khar haas..... . In fact
that scene is not unusual at all, It happens all the time in Tehran and its a scene to watch. The guys who felt they had to do it in NY are probably a bunch of fools and informers, however there is no need to be ashamed of it, its the shia culture.