WAR

Wrong again.. When did I say

Wrong again.. When did I say you were an IRI agent?

I don't care if your are or not. Facts remains the same. I think if anyone needs to face facts is you anti-war people. Do you reall think the US is waiting for my pearls of wisdom or yours to give them permission to do what they have tod to protect their national and strategic interests??? I don't think so. Whether right or wrong...the US is not going to give up the ME and leave it to the Islamic Republic of IRan, Russia, or China. These are hard cold facts. Even Obama understands that...how do we resolve the outstanding issues in a peaceful manner? As I said before with or without war, these issues are not going away from the point of view of the US. The left is only interested in electing a democratic president not because of Iran...do you realize that??? The foreign policy of the US has hardly changed in the last 50 years...wrong or right...

Regarding PC and other Zionist agents

It is obvious.
There are couple of people who visit Iranian site regularly. They write under different names but they are the same people.
They are on a mission. Their mission is to publicize an attack on Iran. They probably get paid for their services. PC is one for sure.
He has the audacity to encourage an attack on Iranian people. He is not here to argue his point. He is on a mission to destroy anything Iranian.

???

I am not going to defend having nukes. because I don't think anyone should have them. But you're sure as hell not going to convince me that the bullies who have them have the moral right to tell anyone else thay shouldn't have one. Who the hell are we Americans to say that to anyone when we are the ONLY country who has ever used it?

As for denial of what the IRI has done wrong wrong, where do you get that? We all live in this country because we don't like the IRI. But that's just it. We live here and can only correct our own mistakes in THIS country.

Why are you so hell bent in believing that being against war means defending the IRI? And why do you think that absolves us from DEMANDING that our own US government behave in a civilized way? Since when did it become OK to turn a blind eye to our own faults and mistakes and then force our faulty system down someone elses?

THINK about these answers before you respond. Please. Do you understand that we are trying to get our own government to admit to its own folly before it starts pounding on someone elses?

Do you realize we can't afford another war? FACE REALITY PLEASE! For the love if God! THINK.

Response to: PC and then to Truth seeker

To PC:

From all the comments you have provided in every single article on iranian.com, it doesn't seem like you are trying to decide what to do. You are just repeating the same old propaganda against Iran that we continue to hear over and over again, day in and day out from the bias media and repeated by the White House.

Furthermore, you are so thick headed that when individuals provide you with their view and analysis you continue to reject it all!!

So, who are you fooling? You are just on this websites to be another loud speaker for war, sanctions and regime change in Iran.

Stick to the issues that are relevant to the current crisis in this country, the ECONOMY; and don’t worry about your few Iranian friends, neither you nor I, or anyone else are in a position of power to be able to influence the minds of those in this country, who intend to harm Iran with our votes or anti war marches, or letters etc..! Where you able to save the Iraqi people, we had the largest anti-war demonstration since Vietnam, did the Congress listen, did the President listen!! No?

Just goes to show, if you think the people in Iran are helpless, so are the people in this country!

Let's relieve you of your agony; just jump on the bandwagon with the rest of the warmongers and don't worry about Iranians, they will take care of their problems on their own.

To: Truth Seeker

First:

On your question about my comment regarding PC:

Let me clarify, by all means I believe everyone from what ever country, religion and background should be welcome to participate in these discussions. However, my response was specific to PC, and you may not be aware of his involvement on most articles published on Iranian.com. He has asked the same questions, receives detail responses, but it has become obvious that he is not here to learn but to simply impose his opinion of war, sanctions and regime change.

After a while one has got to be stupid not to notice a pattern and question the motive of such individuals!

Second:

No, I do not subscribe to your thesis that Iran is exporting fundamentalism to the Middle East. This is another U.S. propaganda that you have all been brainwashed to believe; or simply because of anything that has to do with the IRI. I am not pro any religious gov., including IRI, but I sure am not biased, nor ignorant, nor full of hate, and do my homework before I arrive at an opinion.

Maybe you should take a good look at Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, and other countries in the region. It seems that Iran has become a wonderful target for everything that goes wrong in the region. For close to 30 years the U.S. has embarked on a policy of containment, isolation, and dissemination of false propaganda on Iran without providing one iota of valid evidence to justify its allegations.

I believe the news published by the media in this country on Iran is trash; they have lied so much, that they have lost any credibility to be taken seriously! Their news is for the gullible Americans and others who are just as gullible.

Third:

What was your purpose of placing the Obama speech from August 2007 on this site?

What was that intended to portray? That he believes the same bull shit as the rest of the ill informed!!

We all know that the U.S. foreign policy is dictated by neoconservatives and the Israeli Lobby. What else is new?

You don’t really believe that anyone with a bit of intelligence believes John McCain, Hillary Clinton or Obama are experts on foreign policy and Iran do you?

I have spoken to their staff members directly, including other senators and congressional representatives who have indicated information placed on the desk of most Senators and House Representatives on Iran is not read, but simply a red mark is placed – for dangerous and then thrown out; they have already made up their mind about Iran!!

I don’t simply read articles for fun, I actually participate in the political process of this country because I do care! Maybe you should do the same to understand the inner workings of the U.S. political system.

These candidates are simply kowtowing to their constituents for votes and those who have provided them with their millions and have kept them in the running for the presidency of the United States.

Furthermore, depending on how the polls are, their responses have changed. I would suggest that you updated your news report on Obama from August 2007, his responses have changed from month to month, including his speech last night in Milwaukee!!

Unfortunately, in this great land of democracy, and freedom, those candidates who have strong beliefs and are not sell outs and are not willing to sell their souls for title, power and money are marginalized – i.e. - Ron Paul, and Dennis Kucinich.

What a wonderful rigging process; (1) you need millions of dollars to run; (2) you need to sell your beliefs to lobbyists, and corporations else you won't get their money or their votes; (3) you need to figure out if it is politically correct to go against the big corporations, the Zionist lobby, and the State of Israel - we know this is a no, no; (4) You need to be tall; (6) you need to come up with some nice marketing gig to get the people excited; (7) you need to make sure you speak about your faith and that you are a good Christian and you attend church every Sunday; (8) you need to make sure that the media likes you – because if they don’t you are dead in the water!

If you don't qualify for any of the above you might as well forget it!

Let’s also not forget that the votes are rigged in this country as well and please spare us the high moral grounds of the U.S. political system. If you think the people are really picking the candidates take a look at the electoral system in this country, and you will see how much your vote counts! No wonder you have the lowest voter turn out in this country – this year is an abnormality as the Obama craze has just swept this nation.

Fourth and Final:

You made a comment about democracy and that Iran will not be ready for it for 15 years – how the hell do you know?

Democracy is not something you can put on the backpacks of the American soldiers and deliver it to countries the American way; via bombs and missiles, or "shock and awe".

Each country will determine its own form of democracy according to its own needs, and wants and pace. How many times have you heard that democracy has to be home grown and not exported from the outside?

Anonymous4now joon

I am not a chaghookesh (far from it), but absolutely despise haters like you. If you don't like the book (which you've probably not even read) why are you even talking about it on a blog about the book? Why do you have to warn people NOT to read it?

Then rather than make your own intelligent objections you rely on some paltry review by a no name reporter from 4 years ago that wrote articles based on which the way the winds of readership were blowing.
The truth is Kinzer is irrelevant. What is important is that he represents the kind of American that is waking up from the dream (read: nightmare) that we've been sold by those in power for too long. The book is an outline of FACTS based on released CIA documents that report the inappropriate meddling of England and the US in a country that has a lot of the oil they need.

Why is it relevant today? Because as Hegel the philosopher says: If you want to predict the future, look at the past and watch for patterns.
The book is not a "waist" of time. It is a reminder and wake up call to stop this from happening again and again! (Not a typo BTW, but a fundamental unfamiliarity with English which is a dead give away that you don't read enough. A typo would have been “watse”, for example). And you're right, there are many other books on the subject: Steve Coll's Ghost Wars, October Surprise, The Arrest of Hoveyda: Stories of the Iranian Revolution, Social Origins of the Iranian Revolution, Kessler's the CIA at war...and many others on this topic.

Read them all! Never say no to reading any book! It's not enough to have your Daddy tell you his story.

:) Sorry :(

OC.

You guys want to go off and

You guys want to go off and blow up an entire people because you don't like what one 3rd world leader says about the Zionists and I'm full of hate?

Where did you get the idea from? You couldn't be more wrong. I have said it many times before, the only people who will benefit from bombing Iran are the hardliners. It would give them carte blanche to massacre their opponents and put them in mass graves a la 1978-1978. It would also not stop them from building their nuclear weapons; it would perhaps delay it.

What I want and I think Programmer Craig wants is to avoid war if possible. I think what we need is an honest discussion of grievances on both sides. Perhaps a mediator from a neutral country can be benificial.

It sounds like it is the anti-war crowd who wants war more than any one else. Your hostile rhetorics and denial of what the IRI has been up are not going to serve Iran's interest even if we have a democratic President.

"programmer craig"

I have noticed that throughout this thread, many of my Iranian friends have left you sayings in Persian to describe you.

Well, this one I believe encapsulates them all:

"Khar Dar Moghabelet Ebn Sina-st"

If you don't understand Persian, which I believe you don't, then have someone who speaks Persian To Translate it for You :)

Then, look in the mirror, and say:"Yes, that's me, Craig"!!

Olagh Catcher

I would not be so self congratulatory and condescending on catching a typo.  It may go a long way to disclose your chaghookesh mentality in trying to gain an advantage in an argument, psychologically. 

“And this review is 4 years old! 4 years ago people were also thinking the war was won! 4 years ago, people still thought Bush was a good President and voted him back in!!”  

How is your argument going to change the nature of this review about a period in history?  Yes, this review was written 4 years ago on a book written about events 55 years old.  How should the review be rewritten to include Bush, war and all that?  You are basically saying, because Bush is not a good President, this review, which was written in an age when Bush was believed to be a good President, should be discarded!  I would take broken English over broken logic, any day.  You are betraying yet another side of you.   

 You should think for yourself, and read everything critically.  In this case, there are plenty of good books with much more insight and reliable background information to read, instead of relying on Kinzer, who admits had never heard of Mossadegh before a two hour discussion with an Iranian woman, in a party, in his own book, to paint the picture for you, from a biased point of view.  His research was single mindedly driven, by the words of that woman, which influenced him and became a self fulfilling prophecy.  I am more fortunate than most, to have had my father witness the entire episode and participate in it, as a young Mossadegh supporter, to inform me of the events as they happened in those days.      

I'm full of hate?

You guys want to go off and blow up an entire people because you don't like what one 3rd world leader says about the Zionists and I'm full of hate?

And you couldn't even answer my earlier question: What is your solution? You asked: "My solution to what?" You're just spewing hate and posting age old articles creating havoc and you don't even know that it is incumbant on you to present your best idea for a solution as an alternative to war with Iran?

Now this yahoo presents a question which I logically answer, and I get blasted?

The US has consistently threatened other countries with war (Which is a crime by the way) and no one says anything, they even defend it. But when Ahmaghinjad makes anotehr comment about the Zionist state, everyone is outraged!

DO NOT PUT ME IN THE UNENVIABLE POSITION OF DEFENDING THAT FOOL. and try annd be cinstructive and not so childish.

truth seeker: you are failing in your mission

and you sound real hateful yourself, as anyone can see.

There are a lot of things Iran would do if it really wanted a bomb, the first thing would be to stop bothering with NPT and withdraw.

Why agree to inspections and go through the humiliation of UN and IAEA. North Korea did it, and got everything it wanted. Iran could too.

You are the one who should stop "waisting" our time.

thetruth : I must admit, I

thetruth : I must admit, I envy your ignorance and your detachment from realties on the ground.

Wouldn't IRI just love that so they can build their nuclearr weapons with complete peace of mind?
How do live with yourself with so much hate?

You'll be a lousy leader if you were ever President of any country.

Anonymous4now you've been caught!

In your case, reading any book is a good idea, and not a WASTE (not waiste) of time! At the very least it may improve your spelling!

And this review is 4 years old! 4 years ago people were also thinking the war was won! 4 years ago, people still thought Bush was a good President and voted him back in!!

Read the book (don't buy it borrow it from the library if you think the guy is just after a buck) and then write your own reviews.

THINK FOR YOURSELVES!!!

Read the review! Don't waist your money!

//www.meforum.org/article/1597

answer to touriniran

Sorry. Have a job. Here's what you asked:

"Do you think Iran's policy toward Israel or the US is conducive to Peace? Forget for a moment that Israel is a Jewish country. If Country X threatnes country Y, what would you do as leader of the country under assault? You just shrug it off just as mere rhetoric?"

Yes, yes I would. In the context if this article and this subject you bet your sweet butt I would. Isn't that what Iran, Iraq & N. Korea have been doing all along?
Country X was America when our illustrious leader called 3 countries (Y) NOT inlvolved in 9/11 (Iran, Iraq & N. Korea)the "axis of evil"?

This has been going on for years now. Wake up people!! We've all shrugged it off haven't we? Did you see anyone calling for war or surgical strikes or a "tourinAmerica" in the US? No. They shrugged it off.

But by your faulty logic, this is OK when the US does it's only not ok when Anyone says anything back in defense to the US or Zionist heavy handedness? (For the record, I hate Mullahs, but hate hypocrits more).

You make no sense. And that is why those in power can manipulate you so easily into gut level reactions and violent solutions on your backs with the flimsiest of arguments and marketing campaigns like "shock and awe".

You are sad.

Stop Making Kinser, Obama,

Stop Making Kinser, Obama, McCain, Reza Pahlavi, Rafsanjani, Khameni, Khatami, Hadad Adel, Chomsky, Seymour Hersch, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, your idols and your causes. Don't be used by the left or the right in the US politics or the Iranian Politics.

Learn from both the right and the left how to moo ro az must bekeshin biroon and how to organize at the grass root level. Visit those lefty and righty blogs. See how they debate each other and how they discuss things that matters to their country. Learn from both sides how to defend your motherland in a proactive and concrete ways.

America is not America because they followed the herd or made idols of their leaders.

Think about what's right for Iran and future generation of Iranians without your tired old ideologies and dogma or lust for egalitarian utopia. No one can give you freedom unless you free yourself first from this idol worshipping. Be the instrument of change. Start from yourself.

Just my 2cents.

This is what McCain said when asked if he was "insensitive"

with his "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran" comment.

Incensitive to what? Iranians? Lighten up and get a life!

Video here.

PC: That was a very damning

PC: That was a very damning expose of the JJ...Even if he is a stooge or a former Hizballah, people should not be afraid of this site to voice their opinions.

Here's what Obama wrote in

Here's what Obama wrote in an opinion piece:

Hit Iran where it hurts

Democratic presidential hopeful takes a get-tough stance against tyrant of Tehran

By BARACK OBAMA

Thursday, August 30th 2007, 4:00 AM

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Americans need to come together to confront the challenge posed by Iran. Yet the Bush administration and an anonymous senator are blocking a bill with bipartisan support that would ratchet up the pressure on the Iranian regime. It's time for this obstructionism to stop.

The decision to wage a misguided war in Iraq has substantially strengthened Iran, which now poses the greatest strategic challenge to U.S. interests in the Middle East in a generation. Iran supports violent groups and sectarian politics in Iraq, fuels terror and extremism across the Middle East and continues to make progress on its nuclear program in defiance of the international community. Meanwhile, Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has declared that Israel must be "wiped off the map."

In response, the Bush administration's policy has been tough talk with little action and even fewer results. While conventional Washington thinking says we can only talk to people who agree with us, I believe that strong countries and strong Presidents shouldn't be afraid to talk directly to our adversaries to tell them where America stands. The Bush-Cheney diplomacy of not talking to Iran has not worked. As President, I will use all elements of American power to pressure the Iranian regime, including the power of tough, smart and principled diplomacy.

For diplomacy to work, we need to dial up our political and economic pressure - not just our tough talk. Iran's troubling behavior depends in large part on access to billions of dollars in oil and gas revenue. That is why I introduced the Iran Sanctions Enabling Act last May, to build on a movement across the country to divest from companies that do significant business with Iran. This would send a clear message about where America stands, increasing Iran's isolation and hitting the Iranian regime where it hurts.

The bill works in three ways. First, it would educate investors and pressure foreign companies to reconsider doing business with Iran by requiring the U.S. government to publish - every six months - a list of companies that invest more than $20 million in Iran's energy sector. Second, it would give explicit congressional authorization to state and local governments to divest the assets of their pension funds and other funds under their control from any company on the list. Third, it would give private fund managers who divest protection from lawsuits, while urging the government's own 401(k) fund to create "terror-free" and "genocide-free" investment options for government employees.

This common-sense approach enjoys broad support. Sam Brownback, a Republican senator and presidential candidate, joined me in introducing this bill. A companion bill passed the House of Representatives 408 to 6. The only obstacle now is a single senator who placed an anonymous "hold" on the bill, blocking it from coming to a vote.

This is exactly the kind of unaccountable obstruction that needs to change in Washington. Instead of having a debate in the open, a Bush administration ally is blocking the bill through a secret Washington maneuver - a maneuver that would be banned if a sweeping bipartisan ethics reform bill that I led the fight to pass is signed into law.

Talking tough and keeping our troops in the middle of Iraq's civil war has only served to strengthen Iran's position. It's time to turn the page on a failed foreign policy. It's time for strong diplomacy backed by common-sense measures that pressure the Iranian regime.

Obama, U.S. senator from Illinois, is running for the Democratic nomination for President.
//www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2007/08/30/200...

Is he a neocon too?

Arezu

I am simply curious, you seem to love
commenting about Iran and how the Iranian name has been dragged into
the mud by IRI thugs etc.. Are you an American, Israeli or what?

I'm American. How many times do I ahve to say it? What, you don't believe me? You think I'm Iranian, pretending to be American? Or Israeli? lol

If you are an American you should worry more about how this Bush
Administration has destroyed everything that America has stood for.
Instead of fighting for Iran join the rest of the people who want to
restore the credibility of the U.S. and the American people.

Thanks for the input.

If you are an Israeli...

I'm not. And just so you know (because I know you are wondering) I'm not Jewish, either.

In farsi there is a saying:

"Ta Nabashad cheezha, mardom nagooyand cheezha".

I don't give a shit about your Farsi sayings. You are an idiot, which means your words are idiotic in any language.

Go think about this - and figure out how to help which ever country you are from.

That's exactly why I am here. My country is on the verge of war with yours. I'm trying to figure out if I should support that, or if there's another way to solve the problems. I do have Iranian friends, believe it or not, and that matters to me.

PS-One thing YOU should think about, is that Bush didn't cause the problems between the US and Iran, and those problems will not go away of their own accord when he leaves office next year. Blaming Bush and the neocons will probably be cold comfort if your nation is devastated by mine due to serious issues that could have been resolved peacefully, if anyone had cared enough to make the effort. Which you obviously don't.

It's very revealing and

It's very revealing and typical of Iranian's hypocrisy. When Americans try to inform themselves of what's going on around the world especially the ME, after 9/11, they are chastized by the ME'res and when they don't, they are called "goosaleh"...And you people think Iran is ready for democracy???sad

To: Arezu

Just out of curiosity, Why do you think Americans are interested in Iran and its export of militant Islam around the world???

sickofislamists

PC: I think one of the reasons the so-called dissidents stay away from
this site is because they think the owner of this site is an IR stooge.

Hmmm... Well, I don't want to believe that. But I did notice about 2 years ago the tone of the articles being published here completely changed. I can't recall what was going on at the time, but it seemed like overnight the articles started becoming much more pro-IRI and at the same time anti-US. I remember feeling surprised that Iranian "public opinion" could change so fast. Maybe that isn't what happened at all, eh?

//iranpoliticsclub.net/politics/shiite-season...

Interesting piece. Never heard of the guy who wrote it, and I have no idea if it's true, but if JJ went back to Iran to live and work, voluntarily, in 1980 - that puts him in a league of his own.
Every Iranian I knew here in LA during the 1980s would have rather died then go back to Iran.

Look Alikes Stephen Kinzer & Tim Robbins ;0)

Sorry Laleh Jan but I couldn't help it ... ;0)

Check Out these links :

 //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Robbins

No Nukes - how director Tim Robbins incorporates conspiracy into plots of his films

anonymous-2: I can argue

anonymous-2: I can argue that you've been reading too much Seymour Hersh, Chomsky, Dailykos, Huffington post, firedoglake, myleftwing,juan Cole, blah, blah, blah....

You might be able to fool the "useful idiots" in the U.S. by your rhetorics but not the Iranians who read Persian newspapers, IRNA, ISNA, AFTAB, Gooya,...

Do you approve of Iran's regime financing, arming and training Hezballah and Hamas, and Badr Brigade in Iraq??? Or you're denying that the Islamic Republic has ever done any of these actions??? Simple yes and no...please.

Mossadeq had no problem,

Mossadeq had no problem, with a Constitutional Monarchy similar to that of the U.K. or Sweden. However, this would mean the king would simply be a figure head and no power would be ...

Precisely and thank you! However, Mr. Kinser's claim that Iran had a functional democracy is misleading ,Not to old Iranians, but to the American public who are not aware of the Iranian history. Shah was never overthrown by the people or deposed by the Majlis.

Prpgrammer Craig: Why do you care so much about Iran?

I am simply curious, you seem to love commenting about Iran and how the Iranian name has been dragged into the mud by IRI thugs etc.. Are you an American, Israeli or what?

If you are an American you should worry more about how this Bush Administration has destroyed everything that America has stood for. Instead of fighting for Iran join the rest of the people who want to restore the credibility of the U.S. and the American people.

If you are an Israeli - I wouldn't speak about Iran or IRI - Israel's name is already dragged into mud and there is no way it can hide the crimes that it has committed.

After the U.S., Israel is the most hated country in the world!! There is a reason for this don't you think or this also an international propaganda against the super power and its ally.

In farsi there is a saying:

"Ta Nabashad cheezha, mardom nagooyand cheezha".

Go think about this - and figure out how to help which ever country you are from.

PC: I think one of the

PC: I think one of the reasons the so-called dissidents stay away from this site is because they think the owner of this site is an IR stooge. However, that should be a good reason to take these thugs to task even more...

truth seeker

I also think, Iran is not ready for a democracy or a regime change even
from within. Iran and Iranians need at least 15 more years of this
brutal regime to finally decide once and for all to free themselves
from the prison of their own minds and help themselves rather than wait
for a Shah or a Shahansheikh in a form of reformist.

I completely agree with you there. Unfortunately, the world doesn't have another 15 years to wait.

the truth

Leave Mr. Kinser out of it. You are deliberately polluting and
derailing things. You can remove leaders from power with out an all out
war. That's all most people, inlcuding Kinser think.

That's obviously untrue in this case, isn't it? The "pro-democracy" Iranians we keep hearing about here in America are not even willing to take on Iranian thugs on the internet. How can they be expected to take on Iranian thugs on the street? They can't be. Therefore, a pro-democracy movement in Iran (whether it exists or not) is irrelevant. It will be war. After watching IRI supporters drag the name of Iranians through the mud with their threatening and abusive behavior here the last few days, while good Iranians said very little (or nothing) I am convinced of that more than ever. IRI thugs are the wolves, and dissident Iranians are the sheep.

More foolish statements!!!!!!!!!!

First: To the commentator who brought up Mossadeq's descendant - simply because you are a descendent of a particular dynasty does not proves anything!!

It is the person that matters; and Mossadeq and the National Front had all the credentials to lead Iran into the 21st Century.

Mossadeq had no problem, with a Constitutional Monarchy similar to that of the U.K. or Sweden. However, this would mean the king would simply be a figure head and no power would be afforded to him in the affairs of the country. The prime minister would be in charge with a system of checks and balances to ensure that he would be abiding by the Iranian Constitution. Furthermore, the prime minister would not have a term for life. This would have been the best possible solution for Iran.

Second: Simply writing about the 1953 coup does not mean the author of the book is unaware of Iran's history and the interplay of foreign forces in Iran. Maybe you should read the book or attend his conference to see what he is speaking about before you jump into a conclusion of your own making.

However, there is no dispute that toppling Mossadeq and placing the autocratic Shah in power that would do as the Americans pleased started the downward spiral which lead to what we are witnessing in Iran today.

Maybe it is time for some of you to go back and re-read history with an unbiased view so that the same mistakes do not happen again!!

Once and for all true patriots want the hands of foreigners cut off from intervention in the political and socio-economic affairs of Iran. Simple!! Since the 1800’s we have had foreign intervention in Iran which has brought nothing but pillaging of Iranian resources and stalled the democratic process in Iran.

Any change will have to implemented by the Iranian people and not a bogus, b.s. of a word called "democracy" which has lost its meaning in this country let alone an export of it under such pretext to fool the Iranian masses simply to gain a foothold in Iran!!

Iran with all of its negatives will have to be dealt with by Iranians and no external forces.

The Bush Administration and the future administrations should worry about the demise of this country and restore the rights of the citizens of this country as afforded to them under the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

The U.S. Government should do its own house cleaning, and demonstrate that it has won the trust and respect of the American people, before it has any credibility to venture out in far off places, where it neither has the historical, cultural, religious understanding nor knowledge to be an honest and credible proponent of positive change.

The catastrophe that we are witnessing in Iraq and Afghanistan are a good example, of how America liberated and brought prosperity, peace, and security to the people of both of such nations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Third: For the rest which are continuously speaking about Iran as being the greatest terrorist nation on earth, It is obvious that you have been brainwashed by the bias media in this country who are nothing but a propaganda machine for the Bush Administration, the neoconservatives and the Zionists. Or you have been reading too many articles published by the AEI, the Brookings Institute, CFR, Patrick Clawson, David Frum, James Rubin, Bill Kristol, Michael Kagan, Reul Marc Gerecht, Freedom House, and Foundation for Democratic Promotion and the zillions of others who spend their days creating spin tales about Iran with absolutely not one iota of proof to justify their statements.

These are the organizations and individuals which feed the U.S. Intelligence Services, The Office of Special Ops., the NASD, and the Pentagon; and whose information eventually lands on the desk of the Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, the President and VP of this country.

It seems that many of you are not up for reading, and most probably will not listen to this either, however, just to see whether you give a damn about other opinions, I am leaving this web-link for you!

It may be too long 40 min. but it is well worth listening to.

______________________________________________

"CLICK ON MP3 To Listen to the radio interview"

Scott Horton Interviews Gareth Porter
February 19th, 2008

Independent historian and journalist, Gareth Porter, discusses relations between Shi’ite factions in Iraq, their relations with Iran, accusations that the Iranians are supplying weapons to those killing Americans in Iraq, the State Department’s insistence that Iran “admit” to the accusation in the recent NIE that they used to have a nuclear weapons program, the complicity of the mainstream media in promoting the government’s propaganda and the consequences of American intervention in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

MP3 here. (40:17)

Dr. Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist on U.S. national security policy who has been independent since a brief period of university teaching in the 1980s. Dr. Porter is the author of four books, the latest of which is Perils of
Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam (University of California Press, 2005). He has written regularly for Inter Press Service on U.S. policy toward Iraq and Iran since 2005.

Dr. Porter was both a Vietnam specialist and an anti-war activist during the Vietnam War and was Co-Director of Indochina Resource Center in Washington. Dr. Porter taught international studies at City College of New York and American University. He was the first Academic Director for Peace and Conflict Resolution in the Washington Semester program at American University.

I don't think there will be

I don't think there will be any war on Iran because that is exactly why the hardliners are itching for, and the intelligence community is well aware of that, finally.

I also think, Iran is not ready for a democracy or a regime change even from within. Iran and Iranians need at least 15 more years of this brutal regime to finally decide once and for all to free themselves from the prison of their own minds and help themselves rather than wait for a Shah or a Shahansheikh in a form of reformist.