NUCLEAR

Anonymouse & COP

just take a drive by the U.S. navy base in Philadelphia (you can see it from I-95).  They have 10 times the number of destroyers of Iranian navy just anchored in that one port! 

COP- you're absolutely right.  The only people who should be afraid of the IRI are the Iranian people, who are nothing but sacrificial lambs for IRI's survival.  

Flying Abas

The regime apologists including the two who claim to be women on this site believe that the Islamic Regime (please do not refer to this regime as "republic") is so powerful, they can do anything they want in the area without repercussions. Of course, this regime is so anti-nationalist that they do not think twice before putting anyone in southern Iran in danger of incoming missles and artilery.

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IRAN FIRST

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vpk

i think that the user you're referring to misspelled his name.  his name is actual "xer xer" as in xer xer ziad zadan.  i also think that iri has called to arms all the arabs who're benefiting from their thievery.  it's unlikely an iranian would spell xerexes the way he has. ;)

by the way, i hear there are a lot of herring in the persian gulf especially of the red variety.  this year, the export of red herring will surpass oil for the first time in iran's history.

Yes US Navy has so many warships & don't know what to do w/ 'em!

Everything is sacred.

Nuke Issue

I have said this before and I will say it again. The Nuke issue is a red herring. It is irrelevant. IRR will not attack Israel because if it did Mullahs will be toast. The lucky ones will spend the rest of their miserable lives in Guantanamo. The rest would be fried. 

The whole thing is a made up fight between right wingers on both sides. They need a "matarsak" to get the blood pumping on their supporters. Unfortunately a number of naive people fall for this BS on both sides. 

As for energy we don't need nuclear. It is dirty and unsafe. No  Chernobyl! We say khakeh pakeh Iran not khakeh radioactiveh Iran!  

Iran has potential for plenty of renewable such as solar and hydroelectric to last it tens or thousands of years. People like myself plan to go back and develop it as soon as the IRR thugs are out of power. More reason to toss the murders out.

XerXes

First of all as others pointed out please change your posting name. You dishonor the name of a great king.

You sir are a racist anti-semite. In fact "zere ziyadi mizani". 

After all, if all their enemies go, the Jews will kill one another. They need to keep the wars alive.

I would take a jew as friend any day over your kind of racists. If you think by this kind of post you are going to get respect here "koor khondi". 

That Israelis don't think logically.

Oh really. Is it all Israelis? How many of them do yoi know?  In graduate school I worked with two Israeli's. One of them was one of the best people I know. The other was a not so great. Just like all the other people some Israel's are nice; others not so nice. How do you like it if I were to say: Muslims don't think logically? 

In fact if Israeli's did not think logically then how did 6 million of them defeat 1.2 billion Muslims? 

You are been on this site for a very short time. In that time you have shown your true racist colors more than once. Why don't you go back to the rock you crawled out from? This is not taliban.com.

Niloufar

Trust me.  The United States military may not be good at winning the hearts and minds of people, and in guerrilla warfare, but it is superb when it comes to fighting traditional military battles such as taking out coastal defenses, coastal threats to navigation and naval vessels.  Do you really think that it will give the IRI an opportunity to do anything with the Strait of Hormuz?  Every boat, every naval base and every coastal missile in IRI's navy will be destroyed before an akhoond can do the dawn "azan" in a mosque.  The IRI will not know what has hit it until the U.S. and its allies have established total supremacy over the Persian Gulf.  Pardon me for saying this, but are you naive enough to believe that the U.S. Navy will jump into a naval battle half hazardly and before it "prepares" the theater and removes all potential threats to civil navigation, especially civil oil navigation? !!!

Anonymous Observor

from what i can gather, iran is not only capable of threatening shipping through hormuz, it is capable of doing severe damage to the us and french navies in the persian gulf with near certainhood of a heavy loss of life for both. but this latter is no winning card for iran. the americans may even take advantage of the loss as a 'pearl harbour' to launch an all out attack that would certainly wipe iran's forces off almost totally. but it is the threat to hormuz that stops any prospect for an attack at the moment. it is not even necessary for there to be actual conflict, but the mere credible threat of war would be enough for global oil prices to start rising back to 2008 levels and beyond because close to 40% of the world's internationally traded oil goes through that strait. right now the global economy is simply incapable of withstanding the resulting shock. and iran has had plenty of time to make preparations for precisely this strategy, as they have repeatedly threatened to use it. am not trying to exaggerate iran's capabilities. it is just what i have gathrered from reading around. stratfor (www.stratfor.com) has good articles on this. some of them are available for free. this one is on the iranian incursion into iraq back in december. if you can, take a look at this special three-part series on the strait.

i did not listen to it myself, but obama apparently made little mention of iran at all in his speech. the new iaea chief is proactively pushing dialogue again. china is against sanctions and russia is teasing the west with talk of s-300's. clinton is desperately trying to up the ante, but the tide has turned against israel. america is broke and needs iran's help in iraq and afghanistan.

you know "No Fear"

if all you have going for you is threatening civilian populations with a bunch of 1960's North Korean firecrackers you are one sorry regime (and a bunch of sorrier group of kool-aid drinking supporters).  I guess that congratulations are in order, however.  You and your bosses have managed to turn a great and progressive country like Iran into a mirror image of your homeland of South Lebanon.

Niloufar: the IRI won't be able to do Jack S**t with the Strait of Hormuz.  The Iranian navy is in such a dilapidated status that if the United States decides to go to war against Iran, you can rest assured that it will take out every IRI navy ship within a matter of hours, and will destroy all of IRI's missile launching sites on the shores of the Persian Gulf with the same speed.  Plus, the U.S. (and now the French navy that is stationed in the UAE) will guard the Strait accordingly.  This whole idea about the IRI being able to do something in the Persian Gulf is pure fantasy (just like their other fantasies, like they are respected in the world).  And as far as S-300's are concerned, IRI's master, Russia, has been vacillating between "I'll give it to you, I won't give it to you" for years now.  It's just the Russian mob's way of milking the IRI, and the Iranian people, out of more money.  Trust me, the IRI will never see those missile.  Plus, according to "No Fear" (a/k/a Jaleho), the IRI is very technologically advanced.  Why do they need the Russians to seel them S-300's?  They can just build one tomorrow.

But please feel free to ignore reality and, as they say: dele khodetoon ro ba tablighat-e akhoondha khosh konid. 

Indeed, an amazing video and a hero to have the guts to speak

the truth.

rpRoshan: I agree with the notion that IRI is first and formost after their own servival, thus the whole idea of IRI using Nuke to destroy Israel is never crediable, because they know in such event they will be destroyed in no time.  So, any attack on Iran would be criminal since there is no justification for it.   The attack will also achive nothing but extending the IRI life in Iran.

Mehrdad

the most important factor

iran's strongest card against any israeli and us attack (they would have to attack together as israel has no capability to reach iran without us support) is the strait of hormuz. iran can bring the world economy to its knees.

it looks like the russians will be supplying iran with the S-300 missiles after all. if so, it would be terrible news for israel/usa.

marhoum: great video. agree with you/mammad: iran should become nuclear capable given the violence of israel and usa.

the crux of the nuclear issue

As Mammad once pointed out, this is the crux of the issue:

"The crux of the issue about Iran's nuclear program is, in my opinion, as follows: If Iran has the ability to make the bomb on a short notice, it becomes unattackable. That is not something that the US and Israel can tolerate. They want to be the hegemone(SIC) of the Middle East. “

Not because Iran is a threat.

I wish IRI total success IF INDEED it is making Iran nuke capable.

Selling war, amazing speech by a war veteran

DM, a video very well worth watching (related to your article):

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=akm3nYN8aG8

(thanks to Capt_ayhab a former member of IC)

DM

Although I agree with much of what you write, but what you fail to mention is that neither Syria, nor Saddam's Iraq, retaliated the way you think the mullahs will in the aftermath of an Israeli strike. Both Syria and Iraq took their beating like a couple of bitches and remained largely silent, but for a few idle barks in the wind. In fact, today, the Islamic Republic rests increasingly on an ever more shaky foundation, teetering on the brink of destrution, and while an attack on our homeland may give the regime a second life, I just don't see the mullahs retaliating with as much ferocity as you think.

After all, the IRI is in the business of survival, and they sure as hell know that if they cross a certain invisible, but well understood red line, in their retaliation, they will be removed from power in a matter of days. IRI stooges on this site will hoot and holler at this suggestion, but it's a fact. If Iran's nuclear facilities are destroyed and the IRI retalitates aggressively, i.e., sends Shahab missiles into Israel, or attacks oil tankers in the Persian Gulf, etc., they will pay a very heavy price.  

And because they know this fact very well, the IRI establishment, or what's left of it, will bark like mad in the aftermath of a strike, which will no doubt scare the run-of-the-mill patsy politician in Europe, but the IRI will not bite, no way no how, because as frauds, all bullys talk a very good game, but when you really smack them in the mouth, and where it hurts, chances are they will retreat like the cowards that they truly are and lick their wounds, not the least of which is their pride. 

Well balanced arguement .. DM

I would like to add a few more to support your arguement.

- Iran's Sejil and Shahab missiles will cause a lot of Israelis lives ( something Israel doesn't have the stomach for ) if missing their targets and landing in populated areas.

- Iran has announced that it will target Israel's nuclear facilities in retaliation. This also means nuclear contamination of a very large area within a very small country.

- Iran has declared that it will up the ante and attack US forces for an Israeli attack since Iran claims such an attack needs US approval and support. This means that an Israeli attack will suddenly become a world crisis, effectively shifting worlds attentions to prevent the Israelis of committing a pre emptive strike.

IR has been threatened by many military powers within its 30 years of existance. However, we have displayed some gutsy and aggressive foreign policy maneuvers very skillfully to protect our national interests. Some were risky , like when Ahmadinejad ordered the nuclear seals broken at Natanz and the resumption of enrichment. But eventually, it paid off and made the reformist look really bad. ( sorry off topic ).

Iran has played its cards masterfully about regional issues and our own nuclear one, hands down.

To DM: I agree and would never imply that in Iran

all religions are treated equally, heck even Muslims (men and women) are not treated equally and some are obviously being persecuted for simply believing in a different religion (Bahai)

But it would be also fair to point out that IRI does not have the monopoly on this prejudice and many other regime including those that have democracy (i.e. Israel) practice similar prejudice.

Mehrdad

To Bavafa

You make a fair point. Anti-Zionist would have been a better way to put it, although I'd note that despite being afforded equal rights according to the IRI's constitution, the Jewish population in Iran has significantly declined since the revolution and in practice Jews don't have the same opportunities in Iran that Muslims do.

Thanks for commenting.

To Benross: If you're looking for a job, check out the IRI's Judiciary, sounds like you'd fit right in:

//asriran.com/fa/pages/?cid=98225

Likewise calling IRI

Likewise calling IRI anti-Semitic will also cheapens the arguments.

You got it kaakaa johood? 

Responding to DM

While we are keeping every one to correctness (which I agree) we should point out that IRI is not anti-Semitic as it has been stated in this piece. They surely are anti-Zionist which is very different then anti-Semitic. The largest Jewish population outside of Israel in ME lives in Iran and non has been prosecuted for their religion. many Zionist like to equate anti-Zionism the same as anti-Semitic which is far from it.

Likewise calling IRI anti-Semitic will also cheapens the arguments.

Mehrdad

O'Reilly, Palin and Bolton are 3 pinheads as billo would say!

Everything is sacred.

Responding to XerXes

Point one: Please refrain from posting anti-Semitic BS. Disagreeing with Israeli policy is one thing, but that's not what you're doing. You're attacking a group of people, inside and outside Israel, in a way that cheapens the debate and does you no credit--to say the least.

Point two: Productivity rates in Israel are actually the highest in the Middle East, driven largely by their focus on high tech. Here’s one article of many out there that you might want to read to better inform yourself: //www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/11/09/israel.startup.nation/index.html 

Point 3: While Israel is indeed the largest recipient of US foreign aid, and it is true that much of that aid goes to Israel’s military and helps the Israeli economy, Egypt clocks in at a close second. Jordan and Pakistan also receive substantial US aid, and Saudi Arabia is the biggest purchaser of US weapons in the Middle East. It's certainly not as one-sided a situation as you seem to suggest.

سنگ بزرگ، علامت ِ نزدن

اين جان بولتن هم كه خيلى قيافه اش مگسيه مثل اينكه همين الان يكسى زير ِ سيبيلش چسيده

I agree with your analysis. The Israeli military in the past couple of decades have been only going after people and places that could not defend themselves. The strategy in regards to Iran has always been to drag the US military into the action. Obama is too smart for that 

Nice but there is one part missing

That Israelis don't think logically. They are not always right in their predictions and if they don't attack something, somewhere, they won't get their heavily funded budget for their "security" and many of their citizens actually have to work and be productive.
That's why, there is a chance that they attack to start something with Iran so they can survive.

After all, if all their enemies go, the Jews will kill one another. They need to keep the wars alive.