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Mr. fooladi

Where that qoute by nabarmard came should came as such

 by mr hussain...khan E.pakistani noble prize......

It was not his words,even in some of his comments I SEE HIS Clear Iran parasti & supporter of current regime at the same time.

thanks                         Maziar

Islamist Rat Yousef is screaming with anger louder than ever

Maybe this bit of my comments to Josh touched such a raw nerve:

"Just contrast the bravery of this heroic Iranian woman to the cowardice of this west residing parasite supporters of Islamic regime on this site..... "

I guess, truth hurts...

Fooladi, Abarmard (INSERT, CROSSPOST)

Fooladi, Actually Yousef gave the story of his family in some posts early on in thread (I think at least one isn't there anymore) before I came on it. There was NO sob story. I am the one who brought it up later. And I guess I'm the one who made it into a 'sob story', to which he certainly didn't respond in kind. But he wasn't hostile either. And I still stand by something I told you below.

I do believe his being the son of someone who worked for the Shah, then turned against him and had to flee Iran, someone who was born during the Revolution, made him identify with this Revolution to try to connect with his father's better part by dissociating from the Shah, while advocating its worst cruelties to connect with the other part, the Shah's worst aspects. I do believe his unreconciled conflict, his being torn apart, is so symbolic of Iran's modern history and tragedy. Such a child of the revolution this young man is. What a child of Iran.

I think you do understand that about me because I explained it to you. I just wanted to say it for clarification to others.

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Abarmard, I wasn't going to say this but after seeing your exchange with Fooladi--(the beginning, INSERT: sorry, just cross-posted, but nonetheless), I will. I can't read your Persian but in your English post, your first, you argued against bombing. I couldn't agree more. You ended by saying 'some people are crazy.

First of all, how many people on this thread talked about bombing? Did you even scan the thread at all? If you didn't you should've. That's basic for a serious blogger.

If you did, and you probably did, you should not, I repeat, not, have used that word crazy just for the one 'camp'. How could you say that on this thread? This is why some people get so angry with you. And why, even though my politics are close to yours 'in letter', they are a world apart in 'spirit'. And why you disappoint me so much and have lately told you so.

And I suspect that (on top of maybe some personal reason, I don't know) it may be why you don't answer me anymore.

And honestly, I don't know if I care anymore whether you do or not.

Amir: I agree we need to exterminate the islamist Rats.

Also the last couple of commenst of the islamist rats here have been directed at me trying to lable me as MKO supporter, creating division against the opposition, an old tactic.

I am not an MKO supporter, but I liked their demo exposing the islamist regime. They used to carry out armed attacks against the islamist regimes agents, but they seem to have given that up, which is a shame.

I guess I am now in the "bad books" of the islamic Rats here, the book itself is safely hidden in the same hole the rats are hiding at, somewhere between London to Toronto :)

PJAK apologists have no place among Iranians

 Those who defend the "innocence" of Kurdish communist terrorists who hide in the mountains of western Iran and kill our soldiers are traitors - pure and simple. They should also be put on trial and, as prosecutor, I would seek the maximum punishment possible. 

We hanged the murderous Riggi brothers to the cheers of the Iranian people. Kurdish separatists will also face the gallows for their crimes. It is always their supporters in America who evade justice. But we'll get them - the reach of God's holy warriors of the Baseej is long.

Thank you Josh for the excellent post.

This post is superb. It is factual and blunt and well written. That is precisely why our "cyber bassiji" brigade have been howling and screeming in anger and frustration. They are all here, the entire brigade! They even got re inforcement from "Bassij brigade's London branch" :)

In the meantime, the criminals and murderers are hard at work. Take a look at the blog today on this site, about the 27 year old bright young Iranian lady facing imminenet execution, because of her political beliefs, after enduring three years of torture in ilslamic regimes dungeons, yet refusing to bow to the islamic criminals. Just contrast the bravery of this heroic Iranian woman to the cowardice of this west residing parasite supporters of Islamic regime on this site..... 

Amir,

Sorry, but can't stand anyone who chooses armed struggle against Iran. That puts them in my bad book.

Islamists are rats whether of the MKO or Khomeinist sub-species

There is no such thing as a good Islamist, just as there is no such thing as a good National Socialist. Iran needs de-Islamistization just as Germany needed de-Nazification

Sniff sniff ...

Does anyone smell the unbearable foul odor of a MKO rat in the house?

The US has no right to interfere anywhere

The United States should not interfere in any country. It should certainly not support the tyranny of the House of Saud who previously backed the Taliban in the past.  It is for the people of Arabia to decide who rules them. If they want all their oil wealth distributed among 10,000 princes, then that is their right of self-determination - I don't think they want this, but it is not for anyone other than them to decide.

I already explained why I am based in the West: to educate the ignorant masses who are deceived by the corporate-run media. I have no problem with westerners, only their governments.  I am also here to protect Muslims and Iranians from attack by the MKO and other counter-revolutionary terrorists.Last June, I managed to get one of these animals arrested when he assaulted believers near a mosque.

abarmad:

It was not an angry response, it was a sarcastic response, but never mind, you would not get it...

Is your outraged response due to mauling I have been giving to your latest "colleague", the "commando Masoud" ?? You need to explain.....

your comments on MKO? Dont know which one, I tend not to waste time reading comments from users with obvious ties with islamic regime. This ilk will disappear off cyber space the day khamenei, ahmadinezhad and the rest of the killers scape  to Damescus in their money laden planes :)

And yes, we had couple of good posts on MKO, enjoyed participating and exposing the islamic regimes lies. Looking forward to more :) 

"Facts about engelestan" per a cyber bassiji " commando"!

So here we have this 75% crazy (by consensous of forum) Islamist cyber warrier who had been threthening everybody with hanging and amputation of body parts for disaaproving his sick "ideology" , lecturing us about England and it's system.

Does this idiot believe this forum to be as stupid as himself? he claims to be In England, but seems to "clock in and out" at time when most hardworking residents of UK are in bed resting after a  day at work. If in England per his claim he must be a  "night worker!" or another muslim assylum seeker living an idele life in semocratic west,  courtesy of the generous social benefits of the "Kafiristan" and it's hard taxed, hardworking tax payers.  

Then he gives Rosie, the american lady here, this sob storey about his parents and himself (as if people would care about a vermin only fit for extermination, let alone it's parentage!), all mixed with his military "commando" skills and his fictitious battles with Iranians in England! - Is this a chat line of some sort ? :)

fooladi

I don't see any reason for your anger other than my comment in regards to MKO in other post. In this regard you need to explain your intentions clearly.

"تـــعــریــف جهان سوم"

Boro in tarif haye man dar avardi ra be ame joonet begoo mozdoore bi vatan.

Actually, Yousef,

you and your apparent distortion of reality are the joke.

You apparently complain when the US makes deals with a monarchy such as in Saudi Arabia, but yet you will likely argue in the same breath, "How dare that evil US (or the West in general) interfer with the government of Saudi Arabia!"

It is clearly evident that you are consumed with your irrational hatred of the US and the West, which is a hatred that is fed by the propaganda that you have been led to believe is the truth.

So then, why do you choose to remain the hipocrite that you apparently are since you live in the West, that being the same West that you clearly hate?  Why don't you live in Iran alongside the regime that you apparently love?

(I'm betting that if war breaks out between the West and the regime in Iran, you and others of your ilk will likely scurry into a hole in the ground in fear, much like Saddam did in Iraq after his regime was deposed, since you are apparently just a cowardly child in men's clothes.)

Josh, it's perfectly

Josh, it's perfectly acceptable to withdraw from a discussion, even unannounced.

But you asked me to offer a rebuttal. And I took the time to do so.

Where is your detailed response? Or do you admit defeat in argument? (even by default)

تـــعــریــف جهان سوم

The Last Comment, Perhaps?????

Have "No Fear" to visit a cemetery. That is where we all are going to lay down before the resurrection day when the real truth about everything becomes crystal clear. Incidentally Khomeini also is also in wait there after killing a great number of Iranians, Iraqis, Kurds, Balooch, and etc, & after committing a grave sin of suicide (by dinking the poisonous liquid) as a Muslim due to the defeat in the 8 year bloody war between the two so called Muslim nations.  

Some other facts about Englestan

As well as an unelected head of state, with command of the armed forces, there is an unelected upper chamber (The House of Lords) and a completely unelected judiciary.

Also, everyone in Britain knows that the civil service is very powerful - all of the "permanent secretaries" and "royal courtiers" are unelected.

When you look at Britain's medieval and feudal political system. you will realise just how advanced Iran's Islamic republicanism actually is.

Amir

So, now we know who Amir will support in the event of a US-Israeli attack on Iran - the neoconjobs who run Washington and Tel Aviv.

Just to point out, the government of Iran is elected - the President and the Majlis deputies are elected officials.

The office of rahbari/velayat is indirectly elected by an elected council of experts/khobregan.They also have the power to remove him - not so with the Queen of Britain who is commander-in-chief of the armed forces and has the "royal prerogative" as head of state.

The council members who run the municipalities are elected.

There is certainly more political pluralism in Iran, despite the screening process,  than there is in America whose system is rigged in favour of two big parties that are just two sides of the same coin. That is why many Americans don't vote - there is no choice.

The United States is a "totalitarian democracy"

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarian_democrac...

and "corporate plutocracy"

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy

I suggest all you Iranian-Americans work to change your own system before you try and "liberate" Iran.

Ultimately

The arguments for some comes down to: we in the West will kick your behind, and attacking Iran means attacking the government. Bombing people means bombing Islamists!!!

Here would be some additions:

Bombing bridges means hurting Sepah

Bombing Energy sources means hurting Khamenei

Bombing schools means killing baseeji's kids

Bombing Universities means killing agha zadeh...

It wasn't long ago when some here used to argue that only baseeji kids are in schools and universities otherwise they would not be there! Some learned eventually how wrong they were.

No matter how dirty the arguments get, never allow your mind to support bombing or attacking your country by any foreign forces, and never wish Iranian soldiers death.

Some are just crazy.

Piling lies on top of lies

Elected governments that don't do the West's bidding  

so the Leader of Iran was elected by the people? Sure, he was. And I did see Emam's face in the moon that night, just like the BBC said. 

Meanwhile regimes that plunder and oppress their peoples

a perfect description of the Rapist Regime. You finally got something right.

And if Iran is attacked, the baseej have sworn that for every Iranian that dies, ten citizens and soldiers of the states that invade us must also die.  

if there is a war, the ratio of dead will be 100 Islamists to every Westerner. it's a good thing Islamists "welcome martyrdom"--they just might get their wish   :-)

Lover of "Liberty" - what a joke!

We all know what kind of "liberty" and "democracy" you want for Iran.  

Elected governments that don't do the West's bidding are liable for overthrow - Mossadegh and Allende suffered that fate.They tried to do the same in 2009 with their "green revolution" and denial of the  will of the Iranian people, just as they had done in Georgia, Kyrgyzstan and Ukraine - thankfully, the "orange" and "tulip" revolution" have collapsed although 100 Krygyz had to die to get their rights back from the pro-American Bakiyev regime this year. 

Meanwhile regimes that plunder and oppress their peoples ,but who prostitute themselves for their western masters like Saudi Arabia, are rewarded for their tyranny and even given protection - btw, "green" is the color of the House of Saud.

And if Iran is attacked, the baseej have sworn that for every Iranian that dies, ten citizens and soldiers of the states that invade us must also die. This is the reason why they will never use massive force. You are afraid of death, whereas we love martyrdom.

Yousef

If Iran is attacked, I seriously doubt there will be much of an Iranian government left to be held accountable for any action you or other Iranian regime supporters in the West may do against the West.

And the West, along with its secular and democratic nature, will remain in the end, regardless of any action you or other Iranian regime supporters may do towards the West.

But you and your ilk, and your beloved "revolution," will very likely end up on the scrap heap of history, like other rotten regimes that have existed in the past.

And then Iranians will get the real freedoms they deserve. 

That is how Mankind has evolved, over the long haul called history.

And that is how Mankind will likely continue to evolve.

No Fear

 You are the one with Multiple sufferings buddy boy.

You do not tell me what my habits are and what they are not. So DO NOT.

Don't you also worry about what i am or not blessed with. You have so much Lajan to dig your behind out of. so focus on that.

as for the nonsens at the end.

Politics is not about finding the truth... Oh really? SO what is it about then manipulate first and then ...

One dimensional thinking? LOL yeah. Okay. Hey. get a dictionary too while you are climbing out of that lajanzar.

Democ chi chi?  LOL. Democ Rasti? Ya democ chapi? koodoom yeki belakhare?

Doctor X,

You have a habit of leaving a debate unfinished. I got burnt a few times when i replied to you in lengths. My answers to you, from now on, would be short and brief. Gotta save that energy.

If you wish to believe in " The whole truth and nothing but the truth " make sure to raise your left arm while your right hand is on your heart. pffff ...

Politics is NOT about finding out the truth. One dimensional thinking ,which you suffer from or blessed with, has no place in a democracy.  

Lies, lies, and more lies

The Rahbar Mo'azzam/Vali e Faqih is similar in position to the Pope and the Queen of Britain. Both are unelected monarchs. Yes, England is not a democracy. 

Nice try. The Queen of England is largely a figurehead. Compare her role in English politics with that of the turbaned parasite leading IRI (in fact, constitutional monarchs in some Northern European countries are more restricted from political participation than average citizens! They are expected to stay out of politics and focus on their ceremonial functions). England is a democracy with freedom of speech, assembly, and press (including articles and books harshly criticizing the Queen and her family and repeated calls by some individuals to abolish the monarchy altogether--with no threat to life, limb or freedom on the part of the authors). There is no prohibition against religion in England--Christians, Muslims, Bahais, Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, atheists, etc. Moreover, the Leader of England is not a cleric, unlike IRI where only a cleric can be Leader. Unfortunately, England has become a hotbed for murderous Islamist fanatics (including several who blew up busses and metros several years ago and killed several dozens "infidels"). 

Candidates range from hardline basijis to liberal muslims. 

IRI's sham elections include candidates of various Khomeinist stripes, just as the USSR's and Cuba's sham elections include candidates of various Leninist stripes. Nice try. 

Iranians do enjoy all civil rights as guaranteed by the consitution and enforced by the judiciary.

IRI's so-called "judiciary" is a medieval institution which uses flogging, amputations, stoning to death, etc. as punishments for adultery, sex before marriage, opposing the government, etc. Iranians don't have the right to wear what they want, take the head scarf off their heads at anytime outside the home, eat or drink what they want, talk with whom they want, hold hands, without fear of harassment, arrest, flogging, jailing, etc, etc. Nice try. 

What a joke the West-residing IRI Cyber Groupies. What a cruel and absurd joke. How much longer must this nightmare continue for our people? 

NO F.

Different interpretations can create different truths hence the relative nature of " Truth" in its entirety.

Wrong My friend. Different Interpretations CAN NOT be or create Different Truths. The Truth is not subject to any form of interpretation and is invincible and there is only ONE TRUTH. Your interpretaions of it are Shades of truth and not the real truth.

So I am invited to a duel by "commando bassiji yousef"

Believe me, nothing in life would give me more of a pleasure than getting hold of a vermin like you and squeeshing it under my feet. The problem is that vermins like you hide and run.

Should I come and meet you in England? You told us that is where you are currently hiding....

Fooladi,

Three quarters.