FARHADI

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I was reading the posts in here and got a few things to say:

• Nobody is in a position to order anyone around here. If Farhadi want to take the prize: fine. If Zorumbaa wants to be anonymous: fine.
• I am really tied of people demanding "real name" or implying that a name adds or removes from the validity of an argument. This is based on a misconception that big names add value.

Chattering and Babbling from Somewhere

Dear Orang, I hope you are also sitting in your comfortable chair chattering and babbling about what has nothing to do what so ever with the substance and intent of my comments. I would really appreciate if you can also explain, in a coherent and understandable manner, what MY NAME, real or not, has anything to do with the substance and content of my posts or comments. Why people like you are so sensitive and irascible toward petty issue like a name on the virtual space? You don’t like to read Zorumbaa’s comments, you don’t have to. You like to read and comments on, just do it.  Would you READ my comments differently if I said my name was Daash-Gholaam, or Peter Pan? I have been up for a very very long time; it is time for you to get serious and figure out if you are REALLY up or it is just an illusion.  I guess we can both agree that IC is also, and hopefully remains this way, another SYMBOL of “of free expression of ideas, thoughts and dreams,” This may also be laughable to you since you perhaps think it is not!  Why didn’t you use the “F” word in full?  I frankly care less if you do or not, or even if IC “allows” you or not, that is not the issue.  Do you use the “F” word in front of your young children, if you have any? In front of your younger sisters and brothers? In grade school class if you are the teacher? If NOT, does it mean that there IS NO freedom of speech at all, or YOU hopefully as an intelligent person with common sense decided it is NOT the right thing to so in those circumstances. I am sure you have heard the cliché; “You cannot shout FIRE in a crowded theater with doors are closed” The Oscar statuette is handed out during Oscar ceremony. As you know the ceremony takes place in a theater in front of a large live audience and is watched on TV by millions. I am not sure if the audience was that ignorant that could not understand when Jean Dujardin was saying the “F” word in French, which is a bit fatuous, silly, and irrelevant. Couldn’t you think that he just wanted to be FUUNY; he is a comedian/actor!   The revered Mr. Farhadi received his OSCAR in THAT ceremony, which according to you is “is most regulated event and BUSINESS oriented in the world.” Given what you believe, don’t you think acceptance of the SYMBOL by Mr. Farhadi from “MOST REGULATED BUSINESS” is an INSULT to people like you and he should have REFUSED to accept such token and now need to return it? Am I seeing a hint of hypocrisy here or I am missing something? Do you also want to bring “who” runs the Hollywood and movies industry, MGM, et al. into your argument?! You are enjoining what I have the right to say, the way that I decide to say it. Your authoritative ORDER TO STOP (Misspelled strop) sounds a bit too much!  Please read my remarks carefully and no need for parrying and equivocating here. See what I am talking about and then express your agitated and emotional nationalistic feelings, especially if you believe it is directly relevant to the substantive issues that I have raised here, i.e. The Social Responsibility of an Artist, in the context of the present day Iranian social and political structure. Mr. Farhadi “happened” to be the “Artist” at this moment in time.   I did not demean his work, talent, and or creativity as an artist. We don’t have to show our appreciation and respect for him and the cast with a kind of maniacal zeal. Reasonable people know he has family in Iran, they know the condition under the brutal repressive thugocracy of the regime. But that should NOT influence the nature and the merit of the question and the discourse. For thousands of years, almost all with some exceptions, of our most acknowledged, revered, and iconic poets have been the poet of the “Court”, a sell out for “few gold coins” thrown at them. How many poets, writers, or artists there are that have been on the for-front of a life altering social change in Iran, unfortunately with all the “power” that they possess, not too many. I respectfully disagree with your position that is “outrageous asking more to such an Artist” Ps. please respect people by correctly spelling their names, Jean Dujardin and Zorumbaa are correct spellings.  

Dear Zorumba : Strop your diatrib

It is easy to sit in you chair and critic Asghar Farhadi.

If any of Iranian and any other director has an ONCE his talent to made such a movie in a country such as Iran, he could start to critic his speech, only one could be Jafar Panahi and he support him as well. It is easier when your are in IC and don't use your real name (I don't think your real  name is Zorumba), wake up!

He has still his familly in Iran and his status is still working there, so even what he said is something courageous. So please stop, it is outrageous asking more to such an Artist

 PS: when you say Oscar is "SYMBOL of free expression ", it makes me laughe, you cannot no more say F.... in your speach in US for OSCAR. There is most regulated event and BUSINESS oriented in the world. Jean Du jardin said some F. word in French and nobody undrestood them :-) 

Convoluted Diatribe and Artist Social Responsibility

I don’t want to talk about the convoluted diatribe by the “Iranian Woman” and what she had to say. Frankly I don’t care, over a half of century in diaspora I have seen so much of this reckless affinity and romantic engagement of our educated and ANNtelectuals to the so called LEFT, and whatever that means to them.  Now years after the official demise of a bankrupt ideology, it feels nauseating to regurgitate the standard blabbermouth of dogmatic left standard recitation—Imperialism, Israeli Zionism and the rest of it. What does Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Palestine  have anything to do with Mr. farhadi’s Oscar, to the best of my knowledge he still is an Iranian and should LOOK in that direction!

Mr. Farhadi’s task at Oscar nights was NOT, and should NOT have been the approval or denunciation of “A GVERNMENT” or “PERSON of AUTHORITY” as it seems to a preferred by the ‘Iranian Woman”. He apparently is an “ARTIST”—a film maker, a creative, thinking, socially aware, and hopefully a good person with some conscientious, not a rival politician.  However by virtue of the fact that he held in his hand, a 8.5 pond, 13.5 inch long statuette, representing a very powerful and globally recognized SYMBOL of free expression of ideas, thoughts and dreams, he as a socially committed artist, if he ever was one, had a social obligation toward his native people and society which apparently everyone is dropping a tear or two for at IC.I do not believe that HIS speech came from “HIS intelligent and humanist mind”, I am sure he has both qualities. It is however too naive and simplistic to believe in a society that SEX and intimate relationships between two adults IS REGULATED, every social arrangement is REGULATED, Mr. Farhadi, or anyone else for that matter, could have the courage and dedication to the point that Islamist Jihadists have, to do and SAY what he thinks is RIGHT.  He could not or decided not to “sacrifice” himself. He could not see himself as another Arash Kamangir, or even a not so perfect clone of him! He read a “neutral,” good sounding PR piece approved by IRR. This nation is dying for a hero to step in, to come forward. Ignite and light up and lead. As Hafez said it “Our destiny is to reside in the realm of silence; shout and shake the dome of the Universe while you can”.  Heroes know that they may have to die for their cause, the ultimate sacrifice. It is easy for you and me to sit in our comfortable perches and say these things. But, most of us do not, and will never have the opportunity that Mr. Farhadi and alike have, to show what we are really capable of doing and why. Mr. Farhadi had his once in a lifetime opportunity, as I wrote earlier here, Mr. Farhadi excelled in informing the world about the life and social environment in his homeland, but he failed miserably to do or say anything that could effectively and materially change it. He will be rewarded handsomely by the regime he did not challenge! It is only matter of time.

A pro-Ahmadinejad Article by an Iranian Woman

...an Iranian woman who either doesn't understand English or pretends not to understand. Thank you Examiner and Rahmanian for offering the correct translation.

I have not read, in recent weeks, an article as ambiguous, as shallow and as backward as this one. What transpires from the understandable parts of this write-up is that the author has expected Mr. Farhadi to speak on behalf of the Islamic State of Iran, and more precisely of the government of Ahmadinejad, denouncing American Imperialism and Israeli Zionism and supporting the War with the great and small Satans. Well, it didn't happen and no progressist artist will ever support the government of Ahmadinejad and come to get his/her Oscar while shouting "Death to American Imperialism".

I believe that Mr. Farhadi's short speech came from the mind of an intelligent and humanist artist who knew when and where to speak about what.

People with healthy minds do not expect artists and intellectuals to become the tools of this or that State. Mr. Farhadi questioned all politicians who are speaking of the war. That means US, Israeli and Iran administrations, as well as other "imperialist" States such as Russia and China.

Finally, this pseudo-Marxist business of putting down the middle-class, the only social class that is the main producer of arts and literature across the world, is getting too ridiculous. The middle-class LOVES Western modern and post-modern values because they are the best values that have existed in human history. The middle class is against dictatorship of all kinds, from Islamic to Proletarian.

And believe me, Ms. Nasehi, the Iranian working class is too intelligent to support the Islamic Republic of Iran or not know that in 2012, it is not the "Us imperialism" or "Israel Zionism" that decide about wars, but the multi-national corporations that include rich and powerful men from countries across the globe, especially those in the banking system and arms-making dealership. Whenever you think of the right of the Islamic State of Iran to declare war with the West, try to think where its weapons are coming from. Think Russia. Think China.

So, I suggest that you contact your "Dr. Ahmadinejad" and ask him to beg the Supreme Leader to release the innocent young men and women who have been arrested recently in Tehran for having distributed cookies to celebrate Mr. Farhadi's success. Would you?:-).

Cheers,

Azadeh

Dear Mme Nasehi

Dear Mme Nasehi,I’ve some remarks about your article and comments:

-        As Abarmard mentioned, this movie didn’t only win Oscar, It has been very popular in other countries such as France, England or Germany. Not only by critics. In France, it had been at top of chart for 2 weeks. It doesn’t promote and “Mcdonald” or other westerner value. It is based in universal value and it is why it is successful.

-        In Iran as in other countries over the world you have rich and poor people. I prefer when rich people try to make movies rather than create bombes or gambling in westerner’s casinos or in Dubai.

-        I’m 100% agree with M. Ala. Changing society is a responsibility for everyone. Starting by people who Khomeini called “Mostazafine”. An artist by describing facts may could help them to react but the final word would be theirs.  

A note on words and Farsi

Lost in translation!

The verb "exchange" plays an important part in the speech. Mr. Farhadi does not talk about one side only. He is talking about all sides.

سرکار خانم ناصحی،

"At this time, many Iranians all over the world are watching us and I imagine them to be very happy. They are happy not just because of an important award or a film or filmmaker, but because at the time when talk of war, intimidation and aggression is exchanged between politicians, the name of their country Iran is spoken here through her glorious culture. A rich and ancient culture that has been hidden under the heavy dust of politics. I proudly offer this award to the people of my country. A people who respect all cultures and civilizations and despise hostility and resentment."

متن کامل اظهارات اقای فرهادی را که به زبان انگلیسی‌ ایراد شد در بالا ذکر کرده‌ام تا با متنی که خود نقل کرده آید مقایسه نمائید. در ترجمه فارسی مذکور، در دو مورد متن اصلی‌ تغییر داده شده، و معنی‌ خود را از دست داده است. در صورت توجه به متن اصلی‌ نگرانی شما نسبت به مطالب عنوان شده به وسیله آقای فرهادی تا حدودی رفع میشد.

به جای "در شرایطی که مرتب از جنگ و ستیزه جویی سخن گفته میشود"، فرهادی گفت "در زمانی‌ که صحبت از جنگ، تهدید و تجاوز بین سیاستمداران مبادله میشود." و به جای "مردمی که به همه فرهنگها و تمدنها احترام میگذارند و دشمنی و عداوت را حقیر میشمارند"، ترجمه جمله ایشان "مردمی که به همه فرهنگها و تمدنها احترام میگذارند و از دشمنی و رنجش رو گردانند" است.

مخاطب آقای فرهادی سیاستمدارانی است که این روزها با صحبت "از جنگ، تهدید و تجاوز" عوام فریبی میکنند و افکار عمومی‌ در کشورشان را برای یک تجاوز دیگر آماده مینمایند. بعلاوه، روگردانی از خصومت به معنای انفعال و تسلیم نیست، بلکه همانطور که فرهادی در مراسم "کره طلایی" عنوان کرد نشان دهنده صلح دوستی‌ است.

بازداشت گروهی از جوانان شادی کننده به خاطر جايزه اسکار

ندای سبز: در حاليکه گزارش شده بود گروهی از جوانان و دانشجويان کشور، در پی موفقيت اصغر فرهادی در كسب جايزه اسكار، طی روز دوشنبه هشتم اسفند ماه به پخش شيرينی و ابراز شادمانی پرداخته بودند، منابع حقوق بشری و شاهدان عيني، از بازداشت گروهی از آنان توسط ماموران حکومتی خبر داده اند.

به گزارش جرس به نقل از كانون حمايت از خانواده جان باختگان و بازداشتی ها، صبح روز دوشنبه درميدان ولی عصر تهران پنج جوان (سه پسر و دو دختر) كه مشغول پخش شيرينی و شادی بودند، بلافاصله با حمله نيروهای لباس شخصی و بسيج دستگير شدند.

بنا بر اين گزارش، ماموران كه در ميدان حاضر شده بودند جوانان را زير ضرب گرفتند و بشكل زننده ای آنها را به يك خودروی نيروی انتظامی منتقل كردند.

منابع خبری جرس و شاهدان عينی گزارش داده بودند که روز دوشنبه هشتم اسفند ماه عده ای از جوانان سبز و هنر دوست کشور، در خيابانها به پخش شيرينی و شکلات در بين مردم اقدام کرده و مورد استقبال مردم واقع شده بودند.

گفتنی است، در حاليکه مقامات حکومتی نسبت به اين موفقيت جهانی سکوت اختيار کرده و رسانه های محفلی نيز به تحريف رخدادهای اسکار پرداخته و جايزه فرهادی را نيز "سياسی" خوانده اند، گزارش رسيده است که اعضای تحريريه اخبار صبحگاهی شبکه يک راديو برای خواندن خبر موفقيت اصغر فرهادی توبيخ شده اند.

به گزارش کلمه، در حالی که طی روزهای گذشته همه رسانه های بين المللی خبر موفقيت چشمگير سينمای ايران را منتشر می کردند، تحريريه شبکه يک راديو بخاطر خواندن خبر اين موفقيت از سوی مسئولان صدا و سيما توبيخ شدند.

پس از آن هم در هيچ يک از بخش های خبر، اين خبر مهم و تاريخ ساز خوانده نشد.

زمانی چند ثانیه ای چه می توان گفت

با کنار گذاشتن جزئیات کل مطلب قابل قبول است. آوردن نام ایران در جشنوارهای فیلم همانقدر با ارزش است که نامی هم از ایران در هنرهای نوین برده شود. در اینجا چند نکته قابل بحث است. یک اینکه میدان بیان یک فرهنگ به میزان قدرت زبان گفتگو با اقوام و نژادهای گوناگون کشورهای مختلف قابل سنجش است​. اگر بطور تجربی یا فشار، فرهنگ گفتگو با روشی خاص قابل بیان باشد و ما بدون توجه به آن، با فن رزمی خود پیش برویم در واقع بیان زبان فرهنگی خودمان را محدود کرده ایم. این بدان معناست که دانستن زبان به اصطلاح دشمن مهمترین روش برای پیشبرد خواست یک ملت در جهان می باشد. فیلمهایی که از ایران با دنیا صحبت می کند کار فرهنگی ما به عنوان گفتگوی روش فکری ما با دیگران است. اینطور است که ما می توانیم با اینکه متفاوت هستیم در عین حال یکسان با هر فردی در هر جای دنیا باشیم. این ما را انسان نما می کند و شانس جنگ با مردم را کم می کند. همین انتظار ما از یک هنرمند است و نه بیشتر. هنرمند می تواند و یا بهتر است که با دنیای سیاسی اجتماعی انس داشته باشد ولی واجب نیست.
دوم اینکه  در خصوص این فیلم باید گفت که تنها برنده اسکار نبوده و در جشنواره های متفاوت شرکت کرده و ایران را سر افراز نموده. حال می توان در مورد صحبت کوتاه کارگردان در اسکار ایراد گرفت تا زمانی که این نکته هم مورد توجه قرار گرفته باشد​ که این زمان و مکان و این مردمی که چنین نمایشی را می نگرند که هستند، چطور می فهمند، و چگونه می توانند ایرانیان را درک کنند؟ با زمانی چند ثانیه ای چه می توان گفت که فرهنگی نا شناخته را برخ جهانیان کشید؟ آیا می توان در مورد امپریالیست و قدرت خواهی کشورها صحبت کرد و هدف را در گوش جهانیان در آن زمان کم با میکروفونی قدرتمند به دنیا تحمیل کرد؟ شما چه می گفتید؟ شاید جای آن بود که بعد از چنین تحلیلی، که کلش اشتباه هم نیست نویسنده متن سخن خودش را بجای آقای فرهادی می نوشت، با در نظر گرفتن وقت بسیار محدود.

Has anyone seen the video of Farhadi, rallying for the green 88?

They say there's a new youtbe showing Asghar Farhadi, rallying among the prostesters (the Green movement) in 1988. I couldn't find it. Did anyone see that video, actually?

What is all this effort to ruin someone's success and victory?

Are they trying to make another Jafar Panahi?

What's the catch?

سیم پیچی وجدانی و عقلانی

پس از آزادی ایران و ایرانیان از بختک نظام پربرکت مسلمین "اصلاح طلب" و  غیره؛ از کارهای واجب برای دلسوزان ایران،  پژوهش در مورد سیم پیچی وجدانی و عقلانی آن زنانی خواهد بود که تحت هر نام و آرمانی مدافع وحوش زن ستیز ایرانی کُش و ایران ویران کن بودند.

روز رهایی دور نیست.

You and ARTIST. Social AND Civic Responsibility

Very good, it is nice to hear that you have been DOING your share of social responsibility here or hopefully elsewhere for many years. The impact that you, or I, with all due respect can have on life of others is light years different than the likes of Shamloo and F. Fraokhzad and other socially committed (contemporary) Iranians in arts and letters.  Acknowledging individual‘s civic responsibility and acting upon it, I believe is saying the obvious.  A citizen of democracy somehow has this intrinsic quality and mindset to start with.No. You are your own savior, otherwise the thought I just silly!

Social or Civic responsibility

Zorumbaa, social responsibility is not limited to an artist.  It is for ALL the citizens to be socially responsible.  I tried to talk about social responsibility many years ago in this article.

Are we looking for a savior?  We better get busy to do our share.

Art and Artist Social Responsibility

The primary task of an artist, a writer, a social scientist, and a scholar is NOT only to DESCRIBE but to CHANGE the society for the better. Mr. Farhadi excelled in his first duty, but has failed miserably in the important second one.