Musings of a former chicken

Tarekh e 30 saleh of Jazani

"do you know that Jazani actually forcasted and warned  that  a islamist regime would replace shah" Roozbeh_Gilani

Yes, his work of Tarekh e see saleh (30 year history) is well documented on the uprising of Arabs,especially in Lebanon in those days, something like "arab spring" in recent days. In the light of those events in Lebanon, He predicated the next regime in Iran would be Islamic fundamentalist, NOT socialist or anything close to that. One of the professors in Tehran univeristy mandated this book as part of history educational course. I remember one Hezbolahe person was not happy with that class to read from someone who doesn't believe in God.

    Anyway, Bijan Jazani was the nephew of Rahmatollah Jazani one of the prominent members of Tudeh party in northern providence of Iran. Jazani learned basic idea of Maxist leninst from his uncle as he was attending tudeh sessions when he was a young boy. How Amir parviz pooyan and his book of "absulote inconvincible" and their group connected to Jazani is still unclear. How the sayahkal group who formed Fadaeyan organization and Jazani connection with that gorup still unclear, but the bottomline is that those human right advocates never speak of these unjust assassinations and the misery those families such as Farseu's son. They just keep whining of human right violation during shah's days, but nothing of these assassinations.  

Siavash, Any proof?

FYI The so called Cheriki tactics of left in 1960's and 70's  are well criticized by left wing groups. Jazani, a briliant political theorician  was actually pushing for abandonment of "cheriki" tactics in favour of political activity and organisation  amongst the working classes. Also the political climate of 60's 70's Iran can not be discussed in isolation from the brutal treatment SAVAK gave to any secular political activist, whilst the islamist terrorists were either let run lose, at times in collaboiration with  SAVAK itself. BTW, do you know that Jazani actually forcasted and warned  that  a islamist regime would replace shah, at the time most people did not even know who khomeini was? 

Anyway, The topic of this blog is about Islamist regime's anger at any public figure who exposes their crimes and speaks for human rights and it's abuse in Iran, in this case, RP. 

p.s. can someone tell this deari arji  to stop writing me notes? people might start talking about us :)

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Re Stalinesque, bully attitude

Look RG, I don't give a damn who you support or oppose, for that's your prorogative! However, not only you, but not even Shaban Bimokh himself can brow-beat or intimidate me into refraining from expressing my critical views on RP or anyone else! While it's amusing to me that you are using your Stalinesque, overbearing, bully attitude to "defend the honour" of RP (as if he does not have enough lackies on his own), I have no more interest in having these childish exchanges with you. Do you understand?! You can think of me as supporter of Khamenei or even a homosexual if it helps your bruised ego for all I care. But please, stop trying to be a cyber storm trooper, for even you can't pull it off! 

Jazani group and "Revolutionary execution" and H.R

Case # 1 Abbas Shahryari

The influlence agent of S.A.V.A.K into Tudeh party during 60's. He betrayed most of the northern and southern branches of Tudeh party members. He was assassinated in one of the ally off Tuhid square (Kennedy square) in 1970,  as he was walking on side walk. The job was done by Jazani group. The assassination of Abbas Shahryari was big relieve on Tudeh party. As a result, right after revolution "mardom" official Tudeh party newspapers keep asking to release names of Savak members. They were looking for all influential members. Mullahs never released those names.

Case # 2 Sepahbood Farseu

His assassination took place in his resident in Tehran in the back yard of his house right in the front of his 7 year old son. The son ran into living room. Currently the son is living in Los Angeles area. He had 2 unsuccessfull marriages and is under psychiatric care or some kind of therapy. Most likely he suffered post tramatic stress disorder (P.T.S.D) as a result of his father assassination.

Case# 3 Nahidi C.E.O of Savak in Mashhad

His assassination took place in the front of his house in Dec. 1975. That job was done by Hamid Ashraf and his group. On the cold morning of the winter,  as Nahidi walked out of his resident located behind Hyett hotel in Mashhad, one motor cycle with 2 crews turned into the ally and shooting started. Bang.... Bang... The remain of bullets on exterior wall of his house was visible to public.

Now, who is going to condemn these assassinations? Why everybody is quite?

Sincerely,

Siavash

Re:میکشم، میکشم، آنکه باباش دوست پسرم رو کشت!

RG, I have no intention of engaging in any pissing contests with you. However, you've started an adolescent exchange that I believe deserves one more attempt at clarification on my part!

What I think or say about RP or whatever public figure who makes a political statement on a public forum, is my right and not subject to your approval! Secondly, making a cheap shot (such as one addressed in the title of my post) is obviously an underhanded and homophobic attempt to attack me bsed on suggesting that I'm not a manly man and therefore, a "girly man" or in general associating me with homosexuals who apparently from your POV do not have the right to human rights even if their partners or boyfriends (as you put it) have been murdered or subject to violation of their human rights due to their sexuality! No matter how much you deny it, you are a homophobe!

Now, I'm not a homosexual and even if I were, I would not find it a matter of shame, yet I can not say that about you! For in your follow up rant, you keep talking about stuff that makes no sense to me (e.g. "my contempt for you and your type has nothing to do with your sexuality," "seem to have ants in your tight little designer style blue jeans" or "Khodti, and your concubine!"), and quite frankly, I can't see their connections to what is discussed here! You seem to have some kind of obsession with sex and are apparently not comfortable with your sexuality! Otherwise, why so many sexual references!

P.S. FYI, I do not wear "tight little designer jeans," for I'm 190 cm and nearly 100 kg. and while my girlfriend is half my age (22) and possibly a third of yours, she has more maturity in her pinky toe than you do in your entire body!

Have a nice life!!!

God bless Reza Pahlavi & his family!

The only Iranian of leadership stature with dignity, integrity, and a clean background who has sent out a consistent message of care and love for his motherland!

Isn't it a shame that in a population of 80 million Iranians there is only one Reza Pahlavi?

What a shame!?

Anglophile,

LOL! ;)

deari arj, I am not homophobic

 my contempt for you and your type has nothing to do with your sexuality. Not even to do with your very obvious well below average IQ. It is all to do with your devious, sneaky utterely shameless lying character, for even daring to mention our dear Comrade Jazani's name out of your lying mouth.......

It is to do with the fact that you seem to have ants in your tight little designer style blue jeans since this poor bugger RP first called for Khaamenei's trials on charges of crimes against humanity, then went on further by condemning human rights abuse in Iran.

Khodti, and your concubine!

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Benross is right

Show me one too...........

TL dear what has changed in you?

Pacohontas TL Any suggestions as Where to get one ?

other than in your village ? ...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQdhMSEqhfg&feature=related

DK, please go and finish your school education,

it might help you to read simple sentences, and spare us all from your incessant irrelevant spam, although at least this one didn't take over metres of the page.

Not interested in any of your garbage and many others are very much tired of it too.

Has RP asked if he can rally to unify with the Communist

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Gnje0fRo4

We only have ardent Mossadeghollahis but no real commies

Has RP asked if he can rally to unify with the Communist

Workers Party of Iran or any other opposition groups? Or has he got a bit of a grudge against Tudeh people?  Just asking.lol. Let's turn your argument around, Fred. 

Arj, they are insane savages. They have no idea about due process of law or any real sense of humanity. As I keep saying: there is a whole lot of them on this site who aren't much different to the IRI with their enemies of god crap.

BachehShirzi, good catch. I hope you're wrong and I'm right though. ;)

Re the enemies

What a familiar sound (a la "marg bar zed-e velayat-e faghih!"), and mind you that RP is not in power yet, and already it's posse have started to 'takfir' those who oppose or even criticize him as "enemies of Iran!" One can only imagine what Shahollahis and their Shaban Bimokhs would do to the dissidents if (and that is a big if) he ascends the throne!

I Agree

Only enemies of IRAN & IRANIANS Oppose to RP.  RP is the best we have in this critical time. 

Absolutely!

Dear Arj: Absolutely! But only when an analogy serves to clarify what we may be implying and does not, by any means, reflect on our principled belief that as individuals we are responsible for our own acts and not those committed by others.

در مثل مناقشه نیست!

ج.ر گرامی‌، به قول ضرب المثل قدیمی‌...

The Statements I Made!

Dear Arj: The statements I made were general ideas and did not reflect the things you wrote. My original criticism was of your comparison of RP and Mousavi.

Tiger lily

The youth inside Iran, certainly don't want to know about cyrus crap, as they hear this crap from the mullahtocracy too

I know this is off topic, but Pre Islamic Iranian history is more popular in Iran now than it has ever been. The youth in Iran actually really want to know about "that cyrus crap" and more about pre Islamic Iran. 

Interesting reactions

Really interesting RP makes good move;  see how people react:

• One group welcomes it and wants to join forces to help.
• Another gorup does everything possible to ruin it. Demands of apologies; rehashing actions of his father and so on.

What is the goal is it to move on or  to play a blame game. I get a feeling than some are more interested in blame than future.

Who said apology?

Dear GR, I wonder what I said that's not enough to clearify my point? Or better yet, what is it with the supporters of Pahlavis that can not even get, let alone answer, a simple question that I put forward with regards to RP's stance on human rights?! Who said anything about apology? Did I?! I certainly did not! An apology, among many many other clarifying measures, is warranted when and if RP invokes his claim to the throne!

But, this is a simple matter of advocating human rights! Let me put it this way; forget about his being a family member of (or even related to) the former Shah of Iran. As a HR advocate (if he considers himself one), is he not obligated to support the human rights of all Iranians at all times (including pre-1979), or is his defence of HR subject to limits of time, place, circumstances or other sorts of expediency?! Does condemnation of violation of human rights of Iranians during, let's say the 70s, jeopardize his position that that of the 80s, 90s, 00s and 10s doesn't?! If it doesn't (which according to the principles of HR it shoulden't), then why dosn't he do so?! And if it does jeopardizde his position, why does it?! Why bother then to claim to be an advocate of HR?! Let me reiterate; I made no reference to family ties or any realtionships of the sort. Just a logical request that has nothing to do with vengeance or any demands for apology...

I'm sure there are -- or if not at the moment, there will be -- more like-minded entities who share my concerns in that regrd, and once and if RP's role becomes more prominent as an advocate of HR among the Iranian opposition, to voice their concerns!

RP and Human Rights!

Dear Arj: I'm all for condemning any violation of human rights. Would I be critical of anyone in the opposition who demanded such clarification on RP's part? Hardly! Does RP have to apologize for the Shah's mistakes? I don't believe so! Although I believe the opposition forces need to be united against the current regime in Tehran, am I supposed to be in agreement with those opposition figures or organizations that propose dialogue with and appeasement of the regime? Not really! Dr. Kazemzadeh's critique of Ms. Fariba Amini's article is a great example of how a better understanding among the opposition forces can be achieved. In order to create a coalition of all the opposition forces Iranians need to come up with real objective criteria which could help them in bringing down the regime. Otherwise most criticisms will be devoid of the required objectivity.

Kineyi, Fred? That's truly unfair

People like myself care enough to even bother to comment about this has-been, in effect helping out to get the guy's act together, unlike the forever illiterate Hello Magazine style spamming  crap offered on IC or the historical revisionism coupled with the freakiest psychological necrophilia of the cyrus cult of over two thousand years ago, which isn't much different to the hossein hassan chestbeating of , wait for it, over a thousand years ago.

No, RP isn't responsible for the actions of his father, but he makes a claim on the legacy and is therefore accountable to address issues and as Arj pointed out perfectly, if he's going to give human rights speeches than he not only automatically makes himself subject to scrutiny, but is obliged to take the stance right across.

You know, well hell! There was a revolution against his father's tyrannical dictatorship. Like it or not, that's the legacy.With or without historical revisionis: there was a goddamned revolution!

Why can't he make a simple speech about it. E.g: "I, whilst am in no way responsible for the actions of my father, am however, against some of the inhumane, criminal  measures he took against Iranian people during his dictatorial reign. I however, have definitely learnt from the lessons and am a better person of integrity" Or some such. Nemishe?

You'd be demanding clear transparency, checks and balances and some idea of a vision off me too, if I nominated myself  a leader of a country, dropped by the divine heavens, not that unlike Khamenei.

What exactly is RP's vision of a monarchy? One minute it's ceremonial, next it's political. What is it? Does he himself know? How does anybody expect others to vote in a yapped referendum, for someone who doesn't portray clarity of vision? 

I actually wish that he'd be some form of unifying figure, against the regime, other than those murdering maniac, but powerful and influential MKO.Why else do you think, I even bother to comment and spend time doing so?

Human Rights are not a fashion accessory or a cheap shot of political manoeuvring, but a moral stance for humanitarian treatment of human beings, whether it's Camp Ashraf,  political prisoners of IRI, asylum seekers or any other human being on this planet, as you well know.

P.S. Here's more help from me: It might be useful for this guy to state exactly what benefits he'd bring to Iran. You see, at least with my English, well, German, Queen, I know that she and the rest on the Civil list bring in heavy-duty dosh mainly via tourism and international arms dealing, so that the institution of moftkhori is of tangible benefit. 

RP should start to distance himself from his moron of a mother, who does nothing but going dadar, desperately trying to be somebody by association only.  Btw, she could be taken to the ICC for aiding and abetting Crimes against Humanity too....But, hey, let's bygones be bygones, just don't lie to people like me and millions of others. Most Iranians don't want to be bullshitted permanently.The youth inside Iran, certainly don't want to know about cyrus crap, as they hear this crap from the mullahtocracy too. Like other normal people, they want a better future, their human rights.

You know, here's more help from me, maybe it might even be an idea to skip a generation and give the fictitious crown to one of his innocent daughters, helping with the image for women especially.

Re the test

Dear fred, thank you for your clarification! For that indicates the difference in our levels of committment on the issue of human rights. For one thing, condemning the breaches of human rights during his father's reign does not tantamount to "condemning his father." Secondly, the issue of human rights should not be mixed up with one's family ties and relationships. On the contrary, it should have nothing to do with it. After all, it's the future of our nation we are talking about, not whether or not a universal defence of human rights of Iranian people would place RP at odds with his father's regime! At least to me, future of Iran is far far more important than to be stuck in that sort of dicrapencies!

Arj

I am not familiar what all that Reza Pahlavi has said about his father’s reign.

If your litmus test is for the son to come out and condemn his father to your satisfaction, I do not have the same requirement.

Take care.

Re crimes

Dear Fred, what I'm saying is not that difficult to fathom (at least I hope so)! I did not say that RP has commited those crimes, but that one does not have to be implicated in a crime to conedmn it, especially as an advocate of human rights (as RP claims to be) whom it's incumbent upon! Do you see my point? Not implicated, but simply acknowledging the wrongful nature of those crimes and condemning them as he does any other crimes that include those of IRI that were committed on even a larger scale! 

Arj

You are correct in saying there is no statute of limitations on murder.

What I do not get is what does that have to do with Reza Pahlavi?

Are you saying he has committed murder during his father’s time or even after the glorious Revolution?

As far as I am concerned you and everyone else should criticize Reza Pahlavi and all those in public arena, it keeps them on their toes. However, there has to be some logic to such criticisms.

Once a lumpen, always a lumpen!

RG, is your homophobic diatribe supposed to target my self confidence and "manhood?!" What a piece of work you are! While uttering slogans the Bolshevic style, you mock the memories of the very people whom you are supposed to rever and who were tortured and murdered in cold blood, such as Bijan Jazani and friends who were taken from the Evin torture chambers, released on the Chitgar hills and shot in the back as "fugitives," not to mention the likes of Glesorkhi and Daneshian who were murdered by Kangaroo courts on ridiculous, fake charges! Is appeasing RP and his apparatus that crucial to you that trupms the human rights of those wonderful human beings?!

On a lighter note, in response to your homphobia, I have to confess it's a kind of hard for me to imagine you cheerleading for RP, wearing the cheerleader outfit with a Stalin mustache and possibly balding head!!!