I went away for few days and when I come back I see my good brother Freethought111 is blocked! I know it is pointless to ask for reasons. The "admin" of Iranian.com is above the level to answer such questions! But in the short period that I have had the pleasure knowing Freethought111 I did not find anything objectionable in his writings that would make him a candidate for being blocked. He was posting evidence-based comments, so rich in content, so factual and in such a fluent English. He has shown the peace loving face of Islam like no other contributor on this site. Some may say that he has an issue with the Baha's faith. OK I accept that but then hundreds of contributers on this site have an issue with Islam and other faiths like Judaism or ideologies like communism. The language that is particularly used against Islam is so vile and disgusting that had it been used against other faiths and ideologies, the abuser would have been hunted out of this site in no time. I myself have been the subject of frequent and ferocious personal attacks and abuse as well as my faith been cursed and condemned number of times beyond I can count. And all these attacks because I have said that ISALM IS NOT REPRESENTED BY THE REGIME OF IRAN. I have shown facts and evidence for my words but there are still so many of you who hate me for even suggesting that the regime of Tehran is not Islamic. Why? Challenge me if you can but don't dismiss Islam without listening to the facts as presented by the other side.
Freethought111 has been saying the same thing in a much better lanuguage with irrefutable fatcs and figures. Each of his comments is like a well researched scholarly written paper worthy of appearing in quality journals and publications. Yet he is blocked but those who come up with frequent F-words against his or my belief system are protected under the meaningless motto of "Nothing is Sacred". It seems that to the "IC admin" there are certain things which are more scared than others. The chronic inconsistency and discriminatory policy in applying this empty motto is revolting. The case of Freethought111 and a few others give credibility to the idea that Iranian.com is promoting certain agenda to serve certain grouping and organization. That is fine. Please go ahead and do it but please don't claim that there is a consistent and impartial policy at work here. While there are bloggers (and I won't mention names) who are blogging anti Islamic pieces on a daily basis with total impunity and and are using harsh expletives against peace loving muslims, others are knocked off the website for coming up with rebuttals to such accusations.
I know that Mr Javid is no longer the owner of this site (sold it to a group of investers) but he is still the controller of the site. I also know that he calls himself an athiest. Fine! No problem! But even an athiest controller can be fair unless there are other hidden agendas that we are not supposed to know.
Finally, I am sure many of you will tell me: if you don't like it why don't you butt out? Well, I have got some news for them. I am here to stay for as long as the controller allows me to. In short:
BLOCK ME IF YOU CAN'T TAKE IT. I AIN'T GO NOWHERE!
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Divaneh jan: currently,
by vildemose on Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:52 AM PDTDivaneh jan: currently, arabs use "ajam" as a deragetory slang for Persians. Ajam and dogs are the same in the arabic colloquial language. I have been called both in the past...lol
"There is enough in this world to meet every man's need but not every man's greed." --Gahndi
Divaneh
by Jahanshah Javid on Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:46 AM PDTSalman or anyone else can express their views whether they are liked or not, whether they make sense or not.
dear JJ
by Truthseeker9 on Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:44 AM PDTThank you for taking the time to explain rules of the site.
Birds of a feather, flock together
by divaneh on Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:41 AM PDTNow, brother Majous praising Freethought, is like Khamenei praising Majlesi.
I hope you don't take the word Majous as an insult. This is how Iranians were addressed by Arabs and probably how the compatriots of your hero called him during the looting and ravaging of Iran.
The reason that you feel lonely is not because there is not one more person like you in this site. It is because you preach old and nonsensical beliefs that have destroyed our society for centuries and people have now rejected them. Now you want to promote them and no one is interested.
Blogs & Comments
by Jahanshah Javid on Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:41 AM PDTTruthseeker9, blogs are your own PRIVATE space. We want you to have the maximum possible freedom to say what you wish, including the use of profanity.
Comments on the other hand, are left in a space reserved for PUBLIC discussion and without a certain amount of "civility", discussions can quickly deteriorate and turn into a fighting match.
In blogs, or comments, you cannot slander private individuals. That is against the law and nothing to do with iranian.com.
However, the law does allow more freedom in making personal attacks against PUBLIC individuals.
For instance, you can call Khamenei a dog, or Obama a pig, without being prosecuted. But you cannot do the same against ordinary individuals using their real names.
.........
by yolanda on Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:38 AM PDT"I feel sad and lonely in this fiercely anti-Islamic gathering."
Why are you here?
dear JJ
by Truthseeker9 on Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:26 AM PDTI understand and I don't. There was a comment I flagged calling people Dog a couple of days ago and I think you have not had the opportunity to see it in your queue. Thank you for the explanation.
JJ, why can we have blogs where people can Fohsh people? Surely people are equally offended when called Pig/ Dog in a blog as in a comment. Again is not a criticism, just want to understand the difference.
Here's the rule Truthseeker9
by Jahanshah Javid on Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:21 AM PDTFohsh o bad o biraah tahvil mardom nadin.
Yes brother Javid, I will
by salman farsi on Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:19 AM PDTThank you for your sense of humor which is a helpful tool in such situations. But I wish something could be done about my other brother who is the subject of this blog. I feel sad and lonely in this fiercely anti-Islamic gathering.
For an Islamic democracy
I am confused, JJ!
by gorbeh pashmalo on Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:10 AM PDTWhat does this mean?
"Blogs on the other hand are open to profanity as long as the content does not cross into slander. That's against the law."
Is this similar to, let's say, a restaurant where respectable people dine but in the back rooms, gambling and prostitution go on?
dear JJ
by Truthseeker9 on Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:02 AM PDTWe appreciate all your efforts on IC and it is good just to make clear what the rules are for everybody. Otherwise certain actions by Admin will be open to interpretation and people will come to the wrong conculsion. Is there anywhere the Rules are listed?
Pigs & Dogs
by Jahanshah Javid on Sat Aug 13, 2011 09:59 AM PDTAny comments referring to any commentor as "pig" or "dog" or anything similar are considered personal attacks.
It is impossible to read every comment made on this site. If you see any comments like that, flag them.
Blogs on the other hand are open to profanity as long as the content does not cross into slander. That's against the law.
Consistency of criminal activity on IC
by Tiger Lily on Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:10 AM PDTincitement to hatred
incitement to murder
race discrimination
religious discrimination
encouraged harassment
encouraged endangering of personal safety
consistent personal abuse and harassment despite flagging: flagging is ignored or acted upon, depending on the user
blatant invasion of privacy
It's a disgusting embarrassment to Iranians and its predominant activities are illegal and criminal. There is very little, if anything, civilized about it, which is why so many have left and others don't bother to join.
Hafez for Beginners was right: this place is toxic . The woman had self-respect enough to notice the disrespect immediately.
Even a tadpole wouldn't invest a bet on a camel in the Grand National, even in the Dubai Derby.
Let's agree to disagree on the this: Several etymologies on Noor
by nasrin noor on Sat Aug 13, 2011 09:55 AM PDT//en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Noor
personal attacks or profanity
by Truthseeker9 on Sat Aug 13, 2011 09:53 AM PDTJJ, what about people who have been calle Pig and Dog? I am asking you a peaceful question, it is not a criticism. Why do these comments and blogs stay? Pig and Dog are worst insults dished out to Iranians aren't they?
Salman
by Jahanshah Javid on Sat Aug 13, 2011 09:49 AM PDTAll joking aside, I am trying to run a website here and keep things as civilized as possible.
If you see any comments containing personal attacks or profanity against you, flag them and I'll take care of it. That does not include OPINIONs against your views.
Brother Javid, my God, you are a convert already!
by salman farsi on Sat Aug 13, 2011 09:48 AM PDTThank you for adopting Nasrin Noor as your sister :)
For an Islamic democracy
Dehkhoda
by Jahanshah Javid on Sat Aug 13, 2011 09:45 AM PDTSister Noor... check out the roots of your name:
//www.loghatnaameh.com/dehkhodaworddetail-df3...
Thank you sister Noor and well spotted brother Javid
by salman farsi on Sat Aug 13, 2011 09:44 AM PDTThank you sister Noor for adding to my list of freedoms I can't enjoy in Iran:
Brother Pendar. I take your subtle point. Thanks brother.
For an Islamic democracy
NOOR in NOT Arabic! It's Persian! :))))))))))))))
by nasrin noor on Sat Aug 13, 2011 09:35 AM PDTEducate yourself!
:)))
by Jahanshah Javid on Sat Aug 13, 2011 09:30 AM PDTNasrin Noor?! You want anyone with an Arabic name banned?
YOU, sister NOOR, are banned! :D
Get a grip
I will brother Javid
by salman farsi on Sat Aug 13, 2011 09:26 AM PDTAnd your are right Sir. Under the Islamic republic I can't enjoy such freedoms as:
The only freedom that I can't enjoy in Iran and thanks to your liberal site I do is the freedom to tell the world that the Islamic Republic of Iran is UN-Islamic. But curiously I am not sure why still I am the butt of all abuse and threats just for saying this. It is a bit like being in the Islamic Republic of Iran!!
For an Islamic democracy
"Other types of offensive posts that should be deleted from IC"
by پندارنیک on Sat Aug 13, 2011 09:22 AM PDTالأخت نور، وأنا أتفق معك تماما
Other types of offensive posts that should be deleted from IC ..
by nasrin noor on Sat Aug 13, 2011 09:16 AM PDTOther types of offensive posts that should be deleted from IC are:
1) Any posts with an Arabic author,s name,
2) Any posts with Arabic titles,
3) Any posts where the author addresses others as brother this and sister that,
4) Any posts that try to whitewash Islam's criminal activities around the world,
5) Any posts wit Arabic content, period!
:)
by Jahanshah Javid on Sat Aug 13, 2011 09:04 AM PDTYou're welcome!
Enjoy the freedoms you don't have in the Islamic Republic. And give my heartfelt salams to your "brother"
Thank you for your snide remark brother Javid
by salman farsi on Sat Aug 13, 2011 08:56 AM PDTThis is what Hafez says about that illiterate prophet whom you so kindly reminded me of:
ستاره یی بدرخشید و ماه مجلس شد
دل رمیده ی ما را رفیق و مونس شد
نگار من که به مکتب نرفت و خط ننوشت
به غمزه مساله آموز صد مدرس شد
I am not a snitcher Sir.
For an Islamic democracy
For those who can read
by Jahanshah Javid on Sat Aug 13, 2011 08:46 AM PDTI know your prophet Mohammad was illiterate. But you and your "brother" can read, correct?
What does it say above the comment box? "Comments containing profanity or personal attacks will be removed. Repeat offenders will be blocked."
ANYONE, including those who oppose your views, who abuses this rule, will be blocked.
Which comment has foul language against you or your "brother"? Show me and it will be deleted and the repeat offender will be blocked.
Thank you brother Javid
by salman farsi on Sat Aug 13, 2011 08:41 AM PDTI am grateful for replying to my question and I don't expect you to waste your precious time on me but may I ask one more question and no else?
Why have I not seen any of my abusers and those who use foul language aginst me and my faith being blocked. Please don't ask me for names because I am not in the habit of being a sintcher as I am sure you know full well what I am talking about. Why foul language attacks on a peaceful muslim and his faith is allowed on this site but it is banned for other believers. Consistency Sir. This is the C-word so abhorred here.
For an Islamic democracy
...یه دارا کوشن؟ توی سوراخ موشن؟
پندارنیکSat Aug 13, 2011 08:41 AM PDT
If it's happening from Tel Aviv to Damascus and London, then it can certainly happen right here at IC.......Hey hey, ho ho JJ got to go....Hey hey, ho ho JJ got to go..........
It must be the coffee........I mean the tea, I had in my "sahari"....
Your "brother"
by Jahanshah Javid on Sat Aug 13, 2011 08:18 AM PDTYour "brother" knows perfectly well. He has a history of using foul language in his comments. He can't stop cursing when he's faced with something he doesn't like. Not once, but numerous times in the course of years.