GANJI

Dear Asghar Ghatel...Can we maybe leave.........:o)

 Jamshid is agnostic and does not care for Mohammad, Islam...... I am the Muslim convert. Yes, I know strange but true. Could we possibly please leave Mohammad out of this. The man has been dead like forever. Let the man rest in peace.  He has nothing to do with the debate/discussion on this thread.

motashakkeram/Sepas

solh

To: Jamshid (koskhol)

Jamshid,
How about you go and climb the mountain? May be you will find Mohammad!!!

What? I am asking Rosie T. about this

 I am going to ask Rosie T. what cheez koloft means. Please no one on this thread educate me on the matter. I will ask Rosie T.

I really need to learn more Farsi.

Thank you

solh

Re: Asghar cheezkoloft VS Asghar C

Why did you change "Cheez koloft" to just "C"? Why use an id that refers to your "thick" genital? You need to work on your self-esteem Asghar, before you make any opinions about politics.

First things are first.

Asghar...........Thank you............

 As I like to think objectively, I have found many similarities within the cultures and their histories.  I especially love the Iranian food like  Ghormeh Sabzi is just delicious. :o)

solh

To: Sasha (from: Asghar)

Sasha,
Welecome to what I hope is a wonderful tent of great people. I hope you experience the best of Iranian culture.
Whetever you do, just remember that WE are all victoms of the same "great satan". Put that in the context of what you do and I am sure you will find interesting resemblances among many cultures.

To Asghar..............from Sasha

 One would think that it would be the case but it was a combination of things. For instance I have been studying Middle Eastern politics in general on my own for a couple of years. However it has been only since March that my focus has turned to only on  Iran, Iranian culture, language, history, politics, cooking and so on. My reason was not as noble as some think.

 I fell in Love with an Iranian man. Because of him I became more interested in Iran and wanted to learn more about his culture, language, and so on. In time I developed Iranian friendships with Iranians through out the world. I completely fell in love with Iran, Iranians and Iranian culture. I have seen the good and bad of Iranian culture but my appreciation for the culture has only grown and I believe it will continue to grow. It may have started because of the love for an Iranian man (platonic relationship)  but it has become so much more  deeper and meaningful. It has taken  a life of its own.

Check out my blog on Assimilation vs Acculuration. It briefly mentions some of the struggles of my culture.

iranian.com/main/node/13259

I hope that answers your question. :o)

solh

To: Sasha (from: Asghar ...)

I am just curious; what made you interested in iranian political affairs and history? Are you a teacher? I guess similarities between what the "great satan" did to Iran and also did to many of the central/south American countries is quite clear. But, although I suffer everytime I recall the events of 1953, I have never cared too much to look at other countries and figure out what happened as a result of US medlling and intervention and why.

Yes, Asghar.........you called :o)

 Asghar:  I did not "assume" anything. I said, "if" ....

Asghar: If you are Iranian you for sure know that Esfandiari's.......

Sasha:  Yes, but you also used the word "are" instead "were" 

              so I focused on the "are".

Asghar: I hope you now understand why the complexiities of

             iranian politics is something to bear in mind when

              you get involved in it.

Sasha:  I can assure you that no one more than I understands

            the complexities of Iranian politics. We are after all

             talking of centuries of rich and fascinating Iranian

              political history. Even if I studied  for years, I would

              never gain 100% understanding of it but one does

               what one can. :o)

Asghar:  As you may know, those who forget the histry are bound

             to repeat it.

Sasha:  Yes, I know I have mentioned it on previous threads.

             Actually, it was my World History/Economics teacher

             Mr. Sherman that did his best to ingrain that

             thought into our heads. "Those who do not learn from

              history, are doomed to repeat the same

               mistakes of the past."  Who knew I would actually miss

               Mr. Sherman (teacher and great man).

 solh

to: Sasha (the mexican lady)

Sasha
I did not "assume" anything. I said, "if" .... At any event, I hope you now understand why the complexiities of iranian politics is something to bear in mind when you get involved in it. Unfortunately some of our "monarchist" bretheren try to ignore the past and pretend to create a new slate that has no memory of the past. Any real person knows that it is ludicurous. As you may know, those who forget the histry are bound to repeat it. Of course occasioanlly we also have Israeli agents on this site who pretend to be Iranians and spew anti-government (IRI) slogans. We had a wonderful country and great potential for real progress prior to 1953. In spite of its difficulties, it could manage, and I am sure would become a great wonderful [lace to live in. Then came the CIA coup and the rest is history. Not unlike Guatemala, Chile, and the rest of CA/SA.

Asghar Cheezkoloft.........Surprise!!!!!!!!! :o)

 Asghar Cheezkoloft: If you are Iranian you for sure know that

                                Esfandiaris' were Israeli agents in Iran

                                 running the news paper (Ayandegan).

Sasha:  My advice is never assume anything. I am Mexican. It is

             why I asked you for further information.

PS:  I am also a woman, just in case you had assumed I was a man too. :o)

solh

To: Sasha (Re: Smart Bashid)

Sasha
What do you mean with "this"? Guessing that you mean the affiliation/history of Esfandiari and Ganji, I give you a brief response: If you are Iranian you for sure know that Esfandiaris' were Israeli agents in Iran running the news paper (Ayandegan). Not only this was well known at the time in Iran, but this is also documented in the books published from shredded documents uncovered from US embassey in Tehran. These books are openly available. As for Ganji, well I don't really have a document, but here are a couple of reasons infering his US government affiliation and roles: (i) Please read his "manifestos". These are on-line and available to everyone. At the time that US was (and still is) butchering Iraqis and Palestinians (in latter case through Israelis), Ganji's manifesto considers all these actions by the US government legitimate and as a necessity of establishing "democracy" in the ME. Here is another one: (ii) At a time that the brightest young Iranians with admittance at US universities in hand are denied visas to come to USA (perhaps because they are Iranians), Mr Ganji comes to the USA with a red carpet reception, AND gets invited to the WHITE HOUSE to meet god knows which big shit! (I heard he did not accept the invitation and did not go, but that does not matter). Would you think a person other than a servant of US government (possibly through CIA activities) would be issued visa and such invitations? As they say, I may be old fashioned, but not stupid.

Asghar Cheezkoloft.......where on earth did you........

Where on earth did you read this? Would you please let me know where you read this? It is most definitly news to me.

solh

To: Sasha (re: Smart Bashid ....)

Shasha Khanoom,
I guess you missed the point "smar Bashid" was making. Her point was that these people (including yes, Esfandiari) are known foriegn agents. Esfandiaris, were Zionist agents from Shahanshah Aryagoooooz era, and and Ganji of CIA (circa 1980s).

Cheezkoloft

Smart bashid...........wait a minute

 Did not Esfandiari go to visit an ailing relative in Iran? I think it was her mother. How does that make her not a true friend of the Iranian Nation? She risked her life to go see her relative, if that does not say love for an Iranian, I don't know what does.

How about you give me a clear definition of what it means to be a true friend of the Iranian Nation?  It should prove to be interesting.

solh

Re: Smart Bashid

if mullahs got YOU to support them, then they got to be as dumb as a severely retarded idiot.

Mullahs are SMART after all ...

It seems that whoever the mullahs put in jail or mistreated, there was a good reason for it. Look at Esfandiari (her husband and her are agents of zionists), Ganji and a whole host of others who were put in jail and/or mistreated. These jerks (esffandiari/ganji/etc.) are not true friends of Iranian Nation. They are bunch of stooges with a little brain and in some cases with a handout from our enemies. Mullahs seem to be smart after all ...

Re: Arezu

The issue I have with claiming that Iran has made many good accomplishments is that it is deceiving. And I don't mean that YOU are trying to deceive. I hope you are not. But the sentence is.

The thing you have to understand is that I, you and anyone else could make accomplishments even if we are living in a prison cell. The issue is that Iran could have made FAR, FAR more accomplishments under another regime. Notice the emphasis on the word "FAR".

We should compare to what our potentials are, which is much higher than what IRI has allowed and where we are today.

Anonym7.1 .........Hey! What is up with trying.......

What is up with sending Jamshid to get shot by this Jesus person? Of course, I'm sure Jamshid can take care of himself and Jesus would not get a chance to shoot him. :o) Seriously, I am not a betting woman but if I were, I would put my money on Jamshid surviving. :o)

By the way thank you for not sending Arezu or I with the Jesus character.

solh

Re: To Islamist Thug .... (Re: Jes..)

Jesus said: "... next time people like you want to curb our freedome, we will make sure to pick up our guns"

Jesus, pick up your gun, go to a hunting trip with this Jamshid guy and treat him with Cheney style friendliness:
Cheney accidentally shoots fellow hunter:
//www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/12/cheney/

take it easy Jusus.

To: Sasha, and then Jamshid

Dear Sasha:

I know it is awful that we are on an Iranian web-site but many, including myself have called it anti-Iranian. I like you at first didn't believe it until I started to read comments posted and saw the attacks coming when someone didn’t agree with the other person’s response. The name calling, the abuse, let’s nuke Iran, let’s kill all the Muslims etc... was shocking. You are lucky it has gotten better in the past two weeks.

To: Jamshid - Fortunately, I have not seen you to be impolite, I am surprised why you jumped at Anonym777. He was providing his observation. Look not everything is black or white. Not everything in any place is 100% good or 100% evil. As someone else said there are shades of gray.

So, why are you getting so upset when Anonym777 says that Iran has made some very good accomplishments in the past several years? No honestly, without prejudice no matter how much you hate the regime, put aside your hatred and look at what the people have accomplished. You can’t or maybe I shouldn’t comment on your behalf, but just like Anonym777, what I have seen the Iranians do in the areas of science, engineering, robotics, technology, physics, defense and so many other areas is just amazing – one has to give credit where it is do. There are a lot of problems with Iran, we all know that – but it is not an evil country, and personally, unless hatred for some reason is not allowing you to see things; I can’t believe that you only see a big black spot.

And again, don't label me IRI, like the Jesus fellow. He sounds more like an Evangelical hardcore Christian.

Fundamentalists are bad whether Muslim, Christian, Jews, Scientologists, or whatever...

Thanks Sasha, Jamshid, Anonym7, Anonym777 - I have enjoyed our dialogue regardless of our differences. It is interesting when one engages in discussion and actually learns from one another.

Jesus, though you are rude, nasty, obnoxious, I really hope you calm down, and learn how to speak without insulting individuals, otherwise all of that education means nothing. Good night.

Arezu.........Is this an anti-Iranian website?

What is  happening on this thread? I just read a comment by Arezu:

Arezu: "I have read verbatim by others on this anti-Iranian web-site. "

I certainly do not think this is an anti-Iranian website. Arezu I have to disagree with you on this point.  It is called Iranian.com. Iranian.com is a mixture of many ideologies.

Also, how did  you manage to make your name blue and still be a nonverified account? I accessed your name out of curiosity and it is linked back to the article on this page. You are a genius.

Arezu (not verified)

solh

To the 1st Century Jes.. (re: jamshid)

Jamshidjan, I had a couple of words I spelled wrong, other than those what was bothering you?
I corrected the spelling.

Jesus, Iran has done very well past several years, it still has many tough challenges ahead (worst of which is fixng the rich and poor gap). It has tried to acquire the best technology with plenty of money it has, when encountered with sanctions and sabotage it has had to settle with less advanced technology.
During past 28 years Iran has managed to find ways around all these political and economical aggressions and keep its independence. I am not a Moslem but I am proud of those who have managed this process and I don’t care what their religion is. Likes of you have to continue blowing hot air and more fuses…

Re: anonymou777

You claim that "During past 28 years Iran has managed to find ways around all these political and economical aggressions and keep its independence"

Well duh! Those are all political and economical difficulties that the IRI has caused out of its incompetence. It's like praising a thief and saying that during past so many years he has managed to find ways around his economical difficulties. Duh!

The audacity of you IRI garbages is such that you take a negative and try to package it as a positive.

The more time pass, the more I get convinced that you bastards are not even human beings, you are some sort of demons who have taken over my poor country.

Re: To the 1st Century Jes..

Jesus, Iran has done very well past several years, it still has many tough challenges ahead (worst of which is fixng the reach and poor gap). It has tried to acquire the best technology with plenty of money it has, when encountered with sanctions and sabotage it has had to settle with less advanced technology.
During past 28 years Iran has managed to find ways around all these political and economical aggressions and keep its independence. I am not a Moslem but I am proud of those how have managed this process and I don’t care what their religion is. Likes of you have to continue blowing hot air and more fuses…

To the 13th century, dark age living Islamist

Most of the Islamist on this site, and in the world have no clue what rational thinking, or logic is, they think nuclear power is a something that will make them powerful, and might restore Islam's "greatness", as if it had any to begin with.

Here is a map of the plates shifting:
//geology.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?si...

Look on the map at the shift vector that originates from the Arabian peninsular(as part of the Euroasian plate) toward central Iran.

It passes right under Bushehr, and our beloved nuclear power plant. The shift of that particular plate has been responsible for at least 4 major quacks in Iran (killing at least 10,000) in the last 40 years.
Shah was dumb to start that nuclear plant, IR is even dumber, and IR supporter are unfortunately the dumbest. Too bad for the people of Iran who will have to deal with the coming disaster.

Be nice to Hoder

Hoder was molested and raped by a Mullah when he was just a child, and going through that experience has had longing effects on his mental health. As a result that trauma, he feels that he has to support and praise the Mullahs to avoid further molestation. Hoder is not a bad person but rather mentally sick. Plz, be nice to him.

Thank you for your cooperation,
The Shrink,

to Anonymous 7

My positions are not radical, IR has to either respect every human being, respect everyone's dignity, and life or must be removed. That is not a radical position. We kicked the Shah out because of the very same violations of HR. History is on our side, those who defend human rights.

Here is more stat on Iran. I can give stats/references on Iran from here to vazoo, but thugs like Arezu just will not get it....

On Brain drain:
//www.parapundit.com/archives/cat_immigration...

There is more recent report (2006) from IMF, coming to the same conclusion.

If IR is such a great place, why would the best of our country leave?
Anonymous7 , you living in the west speaks volume, why are you here? That is an element of proof in itself!

If Iran is the way you describe it, and the only problem is the gap between rich and poor, what are you doing here?

Re: Arezu

Iran is using Russian imported graphite nuclear reactors. They are outmoded and dangerous. Almost all cases of nuclear reactor accidents in the past was related to a graphite based reactor. The Chernobyl incident is one prime example.

Other countires, even the USA, today avoid using even the most modern nuclear technology whenever they can. China and Japan have the capbiblity to build 100 or more reactors if they choose to. But they don't because statistially, it is a dangerous source of energy, and you just can't pilie up nuclear reactors, even the modern ones. Statistically, that is equivalent to suicide.

Iran is using the 60's technology. That is where graphite based nuclear reactors are. That would have been ok if they had built the reactors in the middle of the loot desert. But IRI is more about the advancement of an ideology than its citizens' lives and well being.

To Islamist Thug : Arezu

Asking me for references in the comments section, as if I am writing a scientific, technical paper. Ironically, I work in the energy field (technical side) of it. Unlike you and your masters Arezu, I don't talk out of my behind, like every Friday morning sermon.

Iran is currently getting two VVER-440 reactors, and because of all the delays, the Russians might replace the two reactors with VVER-1000, but that decision has not been made. Russian technology in these kind of matters (i.e. nuclear reactors/safety, Flight safety) can not be trusted.
VVER-440 was developed prior to the 1970's, and VVER-1000 was developed between 1973-1976. Again, Because the Bushehr plant was originally under contract with Siemens of Germany, most of the infrastructure is incompetible with Russian Technology, especially the old Russian technology, therefore all the delays. The plant was supposed to start up in 2002 originally, 6 years later, Russian is talking about putting a different reactor in there which would take another 2 to 3 years.

//www.acsa.net/irannuclear/iranrpt.pdf
//www.insc.anl.gov/sov_des/vverbib.php

Arezu,

you are a thug, a true hezbollahi who think that is the Islamic Republic, wanting to silence everybody. YOu should SHUT UP. I am an IRANIAN, and I will give my opinion when I feel like it. And next time people like you want to curb our freedome, we will make sure to pick up our guns, and defend our rights, so you don't bring the disaster like IR to our country. I have family, relatives, including my parents in Iran. I have every right to express my opinion on this crucial.