GAZA

Zion jaan, aziz,  

Zion jaan, aziz,

Thanks my friend. As you know I agree with you 100%. Let me just add something, its important to stand up to these people and push them back. They have bullied the Iranian people enough for the last 50-60 years and we have to reverse that trend, and trust me, there are millions of people out there like you and I, who are starting to speak up and push these people back. These people just can’t see it. They live in a different universe.  They can’t understand that we speak about what is in the Iranian people’s harts and minds. What we’re doing aziz is nothing compare to all the movements out there. The student movement in Iran is huge, but is getting crushed. People are starting to realize, but it will take some time.

There is a huge movement out there. Iranians, specially the young generation rejects everything that this regime stands for, including blind anti Americanism and blind anti Israelism and fundamentalism and terrorism sponsoring and all other things.   

What’s also important aziz is for us to act like “mobs” too when they act like a mob. Being nice against these people is not an option. We have to unite and push these people back. We have to make a difference because Iran is on the verge of total collapse under this regime. What Iranians need inside Iran is a spark, and someone has to provide that spark.

Keep doing what you doing aziz.

Anonymos7,   I didn’t

Anonymos7,

I didn’t drag IRI into this conflict. Let me tell you what happened. IRI has made the conflict its central point of survival. It has sacrificed a whole country by dragging itself into this conflict. It has stuck its nose where it doesn’t belong and we are paying the price for it. Would Khameni allow any Iranian to ask him why this is the case? NO! Because he wouldn’t have an answer to that. They have built their propaganda around this conflict. Bashing Israel is the cornerstone of this regime. And unlike you, I’m not gonna fall into their trap by being part of that propaganda. I’ll bash Israel when necessary, but I know as an Iranian, we have a bigger fish to fry. I’m not gonna sacrifice my country for a blind hatred.

The day that the conflict ends, is the day that IRI starts its collapse countdown.

Mammad,   You started

Mammad,

You started the insults and you got what you deserved. Next time you know better, but of course, from what IRI supporters have shown in the past, civility is not part of their character, just like their beloved IRI regime.

1-     What I told you ARE the evidence. If you’re unable/unwilling the understand, whats the point of me repeating them again? On the same token, here’s a question for you, what on earth evidence do you have to show that Iranians are willing to sacrifice their country for a cause that is not ours, against a country that has done us no harm, for a people that at best, have NOT been our friend, if not to say they have been our enemies in the past? What evidence do you have Mammad the great? I’m being kind and civilized to support the end of Israeli occupation to Arab land and end of Israeli aggression against Palestinians from a humanitarian stand point, and I always will, and I strongly condemn Israeli actions in Ghaza right now against innocent Palestinians, but I know that Palestinians were fighting in Saddam’s army who was attempting to occupy Iran, and their public opinion was overwhelmingly in favor of Saddam because of the Arab ties. Its very clear that you did not experience a bit what Palestinians thought about the Iran – Iraq war during that time. And I’ll just leave it at that.  

2-     Now you have made it personal, because again, you are running out of argument, so you wanna resort to personal attacks (familiar IRI tactic). So you make fun of me by calling me a “freedom fighter” and things of that nature. You sound very desperate so I really don’t know what to tell you. every Iranian on this site speaks to people who come from Iran, and who travel to Iran, but I guess you’re excluding me from that crowd. I guess most readers can understand how absurd that is. Yes I have done all of that, speaking, talking, research…and I’m sure, like I said before, that most Iranians have done the same thing. But there is a difference between me and you. I’m not brainwashed by leftist propaganda and am a realist. You are an “idealist”. You still live in the cold war era. You still think there is a struggle between what you guys call “imperialism” and others! Based on that, you have already a mind set of whose right and whose wrong. Anything remotely relating to the U.S is wrong, and anything remotely not is right. That’s your mindset, that’s were you make your conclusions.

Please stop the personal attacks and let’s keep this civilized, if you can. I don’t wanna get into my life story, and as you can see, I never ask anyone’s life story either. Have I ever asked you about your background? NO. Because it’s irrelevant to me. But just an FYI.. I have done a LOT for my country and been through a LOT and seen even MORE. And I’m gonna leave it at that. And as far as my name, hint, have you ever heard of 3 name full names! Like Ahmad Ahmadi Magham for example. Again, I’ll just leave it at that, because yes, I do travel to Iran, and since IRI has hijacked my country, I have to take some precautionary measures. But my name is Farhad Kashani, yes .maybe one day we have a cup of coffee I show you my driver license! Until then, have some character. It doesn’t hurt.

Zion,

Beside your hateful avatar, you are a hateful person. I am sorry for all the people out there who have been hurt by you.

Mr Javid, how can you let such a person infiltrate your site?

Conclusion...

As an atheist who's spent a lot of time in mid-east ... from Afghanistan, Iraq to Lebanon during war and the conflict between Palestinians/Israelis ... several times over an over ... I can honestly say most people here get it and are smart. They flat out reject all types of oppression and injustice no matter which side it comes from.

Zion, with all due respect ... what's the word I'm looking for here? .... you're a moron and I'm glad you're getting your butt beat by common sense (you're in minority cupcake). It's people like you that just don't get it .... never will.

This gives me hope about most Iranians and human beings in general.

Zion Lion ... Look in the mirror and you just might see Ahmadinejad...hopefully.

Oh!

You are here! I thought that you were fighting at the front against Hamas, defending your country for which you are ready to die, and had no time to comment and expose "Islamists" like me.

Of course not! You are still doing what you are good at, which is monitoring "Islamists" like me. I just hope that it is rewarding for you. But, hey, whatever turns you on, even if is not as rewarding as it should be.

Mammad

Kaveh

That video contains nothing but pure fabrications. Except for a few famous ones like the Balfour declaration, actually I think that is the only correct quotation, the entire "quotations" in this video are false. They are quite old actually and have been debunked many times before, from Ben-Gurion's referring to God's command(!) to the rubbish associated to Sharon:

'The alleged Ouze Merham interview of Ariel Sharon is a paragraph alleged to come from a 1956 interview of the former Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon, made by an Israeli general named Ouze Merham... The interview, the paragraph, and Ouze Merham himself have been denounced as fabrications.'

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouze_Merham

And the picture of Israeli girls who are writing to Hassan Nassrallah who had been sending rockets nonstop to their villages and homes for more than a month.
Sharon is the one who unilaterally withdrew all settlements from Gaza, and this is what Palestinians did with their chance.

I didn't expect from you to be so gullible and naive Kaveh to so readily believe such crap. There is no similar madness in Israel. Not even close. Just because there is a systematic hatefest going on here to intimidate everyone does not mean you should feel like you need to believe nonsense and condemn everyone before you say anything against the what the hate wave wants to hear. That is the point of all this wave, can't you see?

I expected much more critical thinking and resilience to false propaganda from you.

Master Kaveh N

My friend, you nailed it dude, they are no dif. what so ever.

have a great one

capt_ayhab [-YT]

This video

consists of the Israeli equivalent of Hamas and Hezbollah. These thugs are no different. The only difference is that they speak Hebrew.

Thankfully, people like Sharon are where they are now.

Dear AI, you ...

Hamshahri-e azeez AI, Although I could care less for what Kazemzadeh says, I agree with most of what you said. However you forgot the main factor that made Hemas so strong, namely the widespread corruption in Fatah and particularly Arafat and the mafia around him. That is neither Iran's or Israel's fault.

Real Truth.. Nazi Israeli's

Ariel Sharon PM of Israeli is quoted by Ouzi Mehram as saying:   [I don't know anything called international perinciple. I vow that I will BURN every palestinian CHILD that will be born in this area. The palestinian women and children are more dangerous than men, because Palestinian child's existance infers that generation will go on, but men cause limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian, and I met a Palestinian, I would burn him and will make him suffer before killing him. With one strike I have KILLED 750 Palestinian (In RAFAh in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by RAPING arabic girls as the Palestinian woman is a SLAVE for JEWS, and we do what ever we want to her - and nobody tell us what we shall do - but we tell everyone what they shall do.]

capt_ayhab [-YT]

Best Explanation So Far

The best and most reasonable explanation I have read so far on this site comes from Dr. Kazemzadeh. I have copied it for everyone to read. All this name calling, accusations and radical views is not going to get the Palestinians or Israelis any where. They were on the right path in the 90's and it was derailed by the extremists from both sides. The challenge is to silence and neutralize the extremists on both sides. The extremists on the Israeli side mainly come from the Religious Right from the US and Israel(Jews & Christians). The extremists for the Palestinians come mainly from the IRI & Syria as it was mainly the IRI and Syria who were against Oslo. IRI and Syria supported Hamas into power financially and politically.

See Below:

Masoud Kazemzadeh
for Sadegh
by Masoud Kazemzadeh on Sun Jan 04, 2009 06:58 PM PST

Sadegh jaan,

I am glad your dissertation is proceeding well. I will be happy to read it and send you my comments.

On Palestinian-Israel conflict.

There are two main solutions (or policy proposal to solve) the conflict. First, one state solution. Second, two-state solution.

The maximalists on the Palestinian side say that Israel has no legitimacy and there should be only one Palestinian state. Hamas and PIJ say that it should be an Islamist state; their go back to Omar’s invasion of the land and that once a land has been in the hand of Muslims, it should not revert back to the hand of those who held it before them. On the Jewish side, they claim that this land has belonged to them since the ancient times and was taken from them by Romans and then Byzentines, and then by Arab-Muslim invaders. Their religious wing argues that God gave them the Promised Land.

The two-state solution argues that the practical optimal solution is division of the land: two state living side by side; one for the Jewish people, the other for the Palestinians. Since the Oslo process, the PLO abandoned its demand for one state solution and accepted in principle the two-state solution. As did the Rabin, Peres and a good proportion of the Israelis.

Hamas rejects the two-state solution. Hamas won the parliamentary election by a plurality (about 40% of the votes cast). I disagree with you that once a people votes for a group, we have to shut up and not criticize that vote. If a majority of a district in Mississippi voted for a KKK candidate, should we welcome that candidate, or should we criticize the people for voting for the KKK dude.

Hamas is against the two-state solution. Hamas is an armed group. They fight against Israelis in order to achieve their goal of destroying Israel and establishing an Islamist state. What do YOU expect the result of this policy to be? Do YOU, or Hamas, or those who voted for Hamas is that Israelis will accept being killed and not respond with military force?

Therefore, violence, bloodshed, and the killing of large number of innocent children is the result of the policy of one-state solution. If Palestinians are represented by Hamas, this means bloodshed. If the Israelis are represented by Kach or other extremist groups, that would mean bloodshed. If Israelis voted for one of the radical extremist parties, we should condemn that vote.

The PLO made a strategic decision to go for the two-state solution in 1993. This means that the leaders of PLO have to sit down with Israeli leaders and negotiate, make painful compromises whether on land or the right of return and a host of sensitive issues. This requires that if someone within the Palestinian side used violence against Israelis, it is the duty of the PLO (now PA) to arrest and punish that person or group. Just like if an Israeli extremist went and used violence against Palestinians, it is the duty of the Israeli govt to arrest and punish that person or group.

For the above reasons, I disagree with your designation of PLO as:

"emerged as the corrupt prison wardens of their own people, permitting the Israelis to get their hands less dirty than they would be forced to otherwise.."

There is only two real policies. Either one-state solution policy, which automatically results in war and bloodshed and thousands upon thousands upon thousands of innocent children and adults dying.

Or the two-state solution and painful compromise.

There is NO real third alternative. The late Edward Said opposed the Oslo process and advocated the old PLO policy of one secular democratic state (multinational). Unfortunately, in the real world when these groups are killing each other, the notion that they can live peacefully in one state is not realistic, certainly in the short term. The Arabs have about 21 states. When Arab Sunnis cannot live in one state, to demand that Jews and Arabs do, is not real. Even the unification of Syria and Egypt did not last more than two years or so. Just see that PLO and Hamas could not live together and started killing each other. If Hamas and PLO cannot live together in peace, how in the world would be possible for the Jews and Arabs to live together. There is not one democratic system in the Arab countries (partial exception in Lebanon). Why would the Jewish population that has succeeded in creating a democratic system for themselves, be willing to abandon that and risk living under an Arab dictatorship. We should not make IDEALISTIC PERFECTION to destroy the achievable good (despite its shortcomings).

In conclusion, there is only two path ahead. Demand for the destruction of Israel, and war for ever and ever and ever. If one accepts this position, then one cannot complain about bloodshed and the lives of innocent human beings lost. War and human suffering are ONE process. You cannot have war and innocent people not being killed. Under this circumstance, if one promotes the one state solution, then one is also knowingly or unknowing promoting war and bloodshed.

If one is against war and is horrified by the loss of life, especially innocent children, then the ONLY solution is the two-state solution. This means that one should support PLO among the Palestinians and the center-left among the Israelis. By supporting Hamas, one is also supporting war, bloodshed, and loss of innocent lives, which are the INEVITABLE result of Hamas policies.

If my analysis is right, all of us, should condemn Hamas as well as the illegal Israeli settlements and put pressure on Israeli govt and PA to sit down and sign a peace agreement. What the fundamentalist regime has been doing is very harmful. It keeps giving assistance to the most reactionary, violent, terrorists among the Palestinians such as PIJ and Hamas. The fundamentalist regime, by its very nature, does not give a damn about the human rights of ANYbody. It is just pouring more gasoline on the fire. The good policy would be to ask for calm, reconciliation, coexistence, and compromise.

Best regards,

Masoud

Oh, yes we responded

But one has to have two eyes and a head to read and understand the truth.

The difference between us and hate-zionist-lovers is that we accept our weakness and point out crimes committed by mullahs in Iran while, some lesson givers spreading insults and other things over our heads, are unable to see the truth and do what we do.

By the way. What's that language? Do you, Iranians, accept that someone not belonging to your culture comes here and treats you as a bunch of mob! Personally, I do not. I have not been educated like that and refuse to accept this mentality.

When these events finish, these people will come on this site and harass other users over events passing on Iran. I am convinced that their position is totally anti-Iranian (that includes you, me and our heritage). The question which arises then is: Do you accept that such blind lesson givers, who just have hate on their hearts, come and continue to treat you as they use to do? If yes, I will revise my longing to come on this site anymore!

Islamist hypocrisy sampler

Sample one: “You go to Iran? Let's see, your true name is Farhad Kashani. You believe many people in this site to be agents and supporters of the IRI. In your zeal and illusions, you say some of the most senseless things about Iran. You often even say things that have no basis in reality. Yet, you freely go to Iran and come back? Even an IRI "supporter" like yours truly has been banned from leaving Iran (manoo-ol khorooj), if I ever set my foot there. Yet, you go there and come back freely? I suppose the IRI has recognized that arresting you - Farhad Kashani - will cost it exceedingly heavily! “

And those who might also doubt the Islamist’s claim of being “banned from leaving Iran”, even if it were also claimed in LA. Times, must also be suffering from excessive “ zeal and illusions”.

Sample two: “I would like to see what you have done - documented actions - over the past 30 years that indicates your great courage in fighting the IRI. Do not give me slogans, or point to your posts here. They do not count! “

And those who might say this statement has the strong connotative message that the Islamist himself has done a lot of documented courageous acts,  not sloganeering as in writing articles, in hopefully opposing the Islamist republic in the past 30 years, they too must be suffering from excessive “zeal and illusions”.

blindly following the criminals...

There is more criticism of the Israel's action towards Gaza, in Israel than you see or hear in the US:

//www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1052348.html

And there lie the bodies  By Gideon Levy

Educate Yourself:

//www.juancole.com/2009/01/have-bush-and-neocons-ruined-it-for.html

America's role in Hammas Rise to power

See the coverage of this disaster from somewhere other than FoxNews and CNN. There are plenty of sources on the net to refer to. Even Boston globe and NY times have published graphic photos of the civilians killed in Gaza. European sources are more reliable than US too. How can anyone close their eyes and blindly follow the ones who commit these crimes?

On one hand we have people who condemn the killings from both sides, on the other hand we have the people cheering on the killers. Who in their right mind would follow the latter? What kind of Human Right advocacy does that qualify for? Human rights is important only for some humans now? Come on!

When I believe that someone has a good heart, I give them the benefit of the doubt and chalk their mistakes down as hurt feelings, frustration, or maybe just not having all the facts.

IRANdokht

who damages Israel's image? (to Zion)

Zion, objective posters such as Mammad who condemned Hemas rocket attacks of Israeli civilians at the outset are not the ones who damage Israeli's image. On the contrary as we saw in the other thread, Mammad had a very positive impact on reducing anti Israeli feelings by analyzing history of Hemas ... etc.
In contrast extremist zealots such as Mr. Kashani amplify anti Israeli sentiments with their bizarre rhetoric. Look at Kashani's writings again, he is very much fixated on dragging Iran into this, he wants a wider conflict .... Mr. Kashani COULD care less about those Jews (such as friends of our respected DW) who are hurt or killed.

Mr. Kashani, Zion

Just a small sample of amount of HATE Zionist hold for every human being, including Muslims, Christians and all. You guys keep shouting hatred against humanity but realities like this video can not be and will not be ignored.

Notice how proud the young Zionist is of the fact that THEY killed Jesus. such a shame for a race to be so racist.

capt_ayhab [-YT]

FK: Please come back to our universe

First of all, your insults do not bother me. They only go to show your true colours and character for the nth time.

Secondly, you changed the subject. The subject was: Most Iranians, according to you, agree with the Zionist propagandist regarding the carnage in Gaza. I am still waiting for your evidence.

Third, let's take up your sources for all the claims and propaganda that you make on this site:

You talk to ordinary Iranians? From all backgrounds? How? Why do they talk to you? Who are you? In your illusions, these Iranians recognize you as the "Dear Leader" and freedom fighter and confide to you?

You go to Iran? Let's see, your true name is Farhad Kashani. You believe many people in this site to be agents and supporters of the IRI. In your zeal and illusions, you say some of the most senseless things about Iran. You often even say things that have no basis in reality. Yet, you freely go to Iran and come back? Even an IRI "supporter" like yours truly has been banned from leaving Iran (manoo-ol khorooj), if I ever set my foot there. Yet, you go there and come back freely? I suppose the IRI has recognized that arresting you - Farhad Kashani - will cost it exceedingly heavily! 

Iranian intellectuals speak to you? Why? Which Iranian intellectual has committed this "crime?" Name one, so that I can check with him. Inquiring minds like to know. Again, they recognize you as the "Dear Leader" of the fight for freedom in Iran, and that's why they talk to you? 

You listen to the Iranian TV and radio in exile? Which ones? Those in California? Oh, yeah, those greatly credible sources of all the news about Iran that is fit to print, or fit to post, or listen to!!

Speaking to the people who left Iran? How? You wait in airports, waiting for their arrivals? Or you have some source of data center that tells you who has left Iran with their addresses and phone numbers? You must have a great wealth, not needing to work and, therefore, being able to spend your entire time to the cause of freedom in Iran, and interviewing them. Good for you, if you do. 

Posting articles on iranian.com is YOUR evidence of YOUR claim?

Speaking to foreigners who have travelled to Iran? Why do they speak to YOU? Due to the recognition that they give you as the "Dear Leader" of the cause of freedom in Iran?

LISTENING to international NGOs? How do you LISTEN to them? We can READ their reports, but LISTENING? Ahaa, I forgot. They give YOU a  personal briefing each time they prepare a report about Iran!

Come on FK! Leave your parallel universe, and join ours. In our universe people like me do not buy your illusions, dellusions, fantasies, etc.

I am still waiting for the evidence that most Iranians agree with the Zionist propagandist (and you) regarding the slaughter of innocent people in Gaza, especially now that pictures of dead children, grieving mothers, destroyed buildings, and quotes of Israeli soldiers that justify killing children, and say that they have gone "duck hunting" have filled the world over.

Mammad

Dear Farhad

Thanks for your words of reason. I fully understand what you are going through and what is going on here. This is a mob that acts collectively. A mob that has no arguments, there is no content. No use engaging them to defend your arguments. They have no arguments. As you can see, not one, not one, has provided a single counter argument to the points raised in this and the other blogs. It's a mob. It consists of emotionally oriented propaganda and personal attacks. You shouldn't expect any fairness or ethical conduct from them. I think the best way of handling them is to only have rational readers, who constitute the silent majority I believe, and to expose their fallacies and then ignore them, because what follows is essentially a mechanical reaction. Expectable and devoid of any content. Just sit back and let the inevitable noise come and go.

in defense of Mr. Kashani!

I am not a shrink, however I understand my friend Mr. Kashani's predicament!
As Mr. Kashani mentioned in his last illuminating article, he has been disappointed for the past 8 years! Not only Mr. Kashani, but also many other Iranian extremists and warmongers have been disappointed that during this time the conflicts in the Middle East did not get widen enough to include Iran. These war mongers see that time is running out and the Gaza conflict is their last chance.

Farhad...

"This is the best example of blaming the victim for the crime! All I did was to defend of myself against the insults of Mammad."

Hmmmmm you sound like a Palestinian! 

Kashani

IRI is "butchering" Iranians and world is watching? World is only watching for Iran's nuclear ambitions. No one other than you is talking about any massacres in Iran.

More have been killed in Gaza in the past few days than in the past few years in Iran. You are just too spaced out!

Niki, The world is also

Niki,

The world is also watching IRI criminal butchering of our people in Iran. They are increasingly speaking and doing something about it.

And most Iranians will remember people like you, at time when our country needed it the most, being silent about those IRIs brutalities, and diverting the attention from them by engaging in anti Israeli propaganda. They will ask, which was more important to you people, Iran or Ghaza?

Oh please Zion, pull the other one

Come on Zion

Please do not insult our intelligent. The Israeli government and radicals in power on both sides of the confilict love the war. They thrive on it and draw strength from it. That was why they killed the peace process and looked other way while Hamas was forming. That was why they killed the piece process and made a joke out of Fattah and Mahmoud Abbas.

These are radical dictators who would never come into power in a normal Israel in peace with its neighbours or and independent Palestine.

Israeli government is still doing under the table deals with IRI (the biggest supporter of Hamas). Furthermore Hamas was the best thing that happened to Lakud party as it scared the Israeli people into voting for them. That as why they are leaving Hamas leaders to be while are bombing the hell out of innocent women and children.

If Israel was really interested in piece they would have never discredited Arafat and Abbas and even in fighting with Hamas they would have gone after their leaders in Syria. It would have been much easier to go after one person and bring them to justice rather than starting proxy war after proxy war.

If they were really after piece they should have learned the lesson of their misadventure in Lebanon last summer.

However the fact that they are repeating the same pattern again could only be one of the following

They are either so tick that despite all the warnings from the rest of the world they have not yet learned from their past mistakes. Or there is another policy behind the closed curtain and that is to keep the fire of war burning in order to make money stay in power

IRAndokht and KoroushS,  

IRAndokht and KoroushS,  

Are you guys serious or what? This is the best example of blaming the victim for the crime! All I did was to defend of myself against the insults of Mammad. Don’t you think it’s a better idea to see the last posting by Mammad and where I come from before bashing me? IRANdokht, this is the second time you’ve done that. You always blame me before finding out what the other persons said to me first. And I guess this mentality continues in politic with you guys. For example, the IRI Israeli animosity. You’re blaming Israel for holding its ground against IRI aggression. IRI started the animosity, but we should blame Israel for defending itself!!

Anyways…

KouroushS,

I just gota say one thing. Public opinion is very important in today’s world. Nuclear bombs don’t have half the influence as world public opinion does. An opinion that as much it wouldn’t tolerate Israeli crimes in Ghaza, it wouldn’t stand for IRI crimes in Iran. However, some of our beloved Iranians (!!) on this site, tend to either forget, or ignore, or deliberately not talk about IRI crimes, and talk about one thing only: Israel. I don’t know about you, but something is wrong with this picture as far as I’m concerned. That’s not part of that public opinion. That’s propaganda. There is a reason that they do that. And since we know that this propaganda is in the benefit of the IRI, we will call it out and expose it. We will not led it slide.

IRANdokht,

You know I would not ever insult you, so not sure where you coming up with this.

 Mammad,  

You provoked me and got what you deserve. I said it before, as long as you’re up for a civilized and intelligent discussion, I’m all for it. You insult me, and most people would agree, that I have the right to defend myself.

As far as your question. How can you measure a public opinion? Lets count and tell me if the following is part of it or not. Obviously in Iran, where IRI has turned it into a big prison, freedom of expression is non-existent. So what are the alternative means to measure this? And b the way, in a previous article I fully explained this. Here‘s what comes to mind:

-         Speaking with ordinary Iranians in Iran. From all backgrounds and classes and education levels and income levels and demographics and cultures.

-          Speaking with intellectuals in Iran.

-         Speaking with people who left Iran.

-         Reading and listening to media in Iran, which have in recent years, despite all the crackdown have become increasingly bold to call out the shortages in their country. Although the main issues are not allowed to be discussed.

-         Listening to non-governmental International organizations‘s reports on Iran.

-         Speaking to foreigners who have visited Iran.

-         Listening to Iranian exile community and their observation of Iran, most specifically, the ones who frequently visit Iran. (myself included).

-         Listening to Iranian exile community media, such as Iranian.com and the posting and articles on it.

These are just some of the ones that just came to my mind. And let me tell you, by taking those into consideration, I have not seen a shred of evidence, that suggests Iranians want anything less than a democratic government, and as far as our conversation is concerned, annihilating Israel! So, maybe you can “enlighten” us and tell us how else, in the absence of polls, one can measure public opinion.

And as far what I did about my country, as I told you many times before, I never turn conversations into personal matters. Just like I never asked you what you did for your country, its kind a childish for you to ask me. All I gotta say is this, if you ever listen to my life story, you’ll be shocked! What I went through and seen will amaze you. You have no idea how much I know first hand about IRI and its true face. You have no idea what I’ve done, and what I’ve seen, and what I’ve read and and what I’ve listened to, and what I’ve went through. So lets just keep it at that.

Gaza is the most congested

Gaza is the most congested and populated area in the world. There is no "open" space. Thanks to Israel's policies Gaza is just an X-large refugee camp. So wherever you strike is people. It is like stepping on a a group of ants out of their colony and saying it is a "limited precision strike" killing specific ants. How estupid can you be?

Palestinans are sending rockets for fun? They should stop sending rockets and thank Israel for bombing them? How estupid can you be?

Nice Try, Zion, but no Cigar

The world is watching, protesting, and will remember Israel's criminal massacres. You just keep up the propaganda, it looks like you enjoy it.

KouroshS, FK, and others

I invite anybody who attacks me to read my posts over the past few days regarding Hamas-Israel with an open mind, to see whether I am pro-Hamas, pro-IRI, pro-bloodshed, etc. All I have said are,

(1) Hamas and Hezbollah are symptoms of what Israel has done to that region, not the root-cause of the problem. Once what Israel does in that region, which are in gross violation of international laws, stop, Hezbollah and Hamas will disappear. Israel's actions against Palestinians, Syria, and Lebanon started long before Hezbollah and Hamas were formed.

(2) Hamas definitely shares part of the responsibility and blame for the carnage. But, again, Palestinians are the occupied people, and Israel is the occupier. UN Charter and all the relevant international agreements recognize the rights of a people to resist and fight with the occupiers, be it the US, Israel, the IRI, etc.

(3) Since the vast majority of people of any colour, religion, nationality, etc., reject violence, I would like to ask those Iranian supporters of Israel to tell us how they think Palestinians should recover their land peacefully. 

FK:

You have shown your true colour and character by your rage, out of control senseless emotions, and insults. It is beneath me to respond in kind. But, you still did not answer one crucial question:

What is the evidence that you have, but people like me do not, that the majority of Iranians everywhere think like you or the Zionist propagandist? Fine, let's assume for the sake of argument that polls are not taken in Iran (but they actually are). Still, you must have some other evidence for your grand claim. Enlighten us with your evidence, and in the process expose me and people like me whom you claim are the IRI supporters, and have the blood of Iranian people on our hands.

In addition, I would like to see what you have done - documented actions - over the past 30 years that indicates your great courage in fighting the IRI. Do not give me slogans, or point to your posts here. They do not count! 

Mammad

Really Ironic that the man

Really Ironic that the man guilty for praising war and destruction Zion, is condemned here and then some individuals come and continue the discussion putting their own arguments about side issues into the pot.

I guess as long as we have shah parast and MKO lovers they will try to hijack the discussions or divert it.
Meanwhile Zion can enjoy the show since he is the one supporting criminals and inhumane individuals who think they are chosen people.
I have bad news for you. No one is chosen no arab and no israeli and both will suffer in hell if do not get along with each other.
now to make a shah paraste shosteshooye maghzi dideh with a lost mko boy/girl to live in peace , that needs a miracle and i am not sure what can be done.

when i see zion and his plane i remember saddam's airplances coming to attack my parents' home several years ago. so i can only say : shame on you zion and zion supporters who may be other israelies coming here to create fights between the so called persians and lost iranians.

Are Iranian Muslims as good as the jewish ones?

Its a simple question and any thoughtful response would be greatly appreciated.