Jaleho

Malijak, enjoy

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‫چو ایران نباشد، تن من مباد

Anonym7

i take your point. am over the initial shock already.

but u didn't answer my question!

Jaleh jan

yes i take your point about the troubles in Sistan, but:

- why does AN get 49% of the vote there still? it hardly looks like a great protest vote

- why does the same rationale not hold in khuzestan and kurdistan? they are not exactly fans of the regime there but AN gets a significant majority in both.

All of Capt_Ahyab's men!

Capt_ahyab, you talk big with numbers, but you need a lot more than numbers to make any points.

Still, no problem, let's talk numbers if you wish:

There are still some who are looking for a few good men. What about you? Did you find your version of 100 men? What about 10?

How about 1? But wait, that would be only yourself!!

Or are you going to find your 100 men from among the demonstrators in Iran?

How? By sitting in your chair in LA and sipping on your beer while watching TV and daydreaming about better days? Don't make me laugh!

"Not knowing the truth is ignorance, but knowing the truth and denying it is a crime"

Long live Capt_ahyab and the One Hundred!

Yes, Iranians Won martyrs

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That's bigger than what you expected.

در پي حملات شب گذشته به کوي دانشگاه تهران و کشته شدن پنج تن از دانشجويان اين دانشگاه، دکتر جبه‌دار مارالاني رئيس دانشکده برق و کامپيوتر پرديس دانشکده‌هاي فني اين دانشگاه از سمت خود استعفا داد.

جبه‌دار مارالاني که چهره ماندگار گرايش الکترونيک دانشکده برق است و پدر مهندسي برق ايران لقب گرفته‌است، عصر امروز از سمت خود کناره‌گيري کرد.وی از سال 81 رئیس دانشکده برق بوده است.دانشجویان خواهان استعفای فرهاد رهبر رئیس انتصابی دانشگاه تهران هستند و بی کفایتی او را در دفاع از کیان دانشگاه و جان دانشجویان محکوم می کنند.

اين در حالي است که 119 تن ديگر از اساتيد دانشگاه تهران نيز در پي حوادث شب گذشته که به هتک حرمت دانشگاه منجر شد، از سمت استادي خود کناره‌گيري کردند.

اسامي کشته‌شدگان شب گذشته حملات انصار حزب‌الله به کوي دانشگاه به شرح زير است:

خانم‌ها

مينا احترامي،

فاطمه براتي،

آقايان

کسري شرفي،

کامبيز شعاعي،

محسن ايماني.

گفته می شود یکی از کشته شدگان رتبه ۹ کنکور سراسری را داشت.

‫چو ایران نباشد، تن من مباد

Minadavar,

Thanks for coming back with "logical" arguments to refute my careful answers to your post. 

It is funny that when people are shown scientifically why an analysis they parrot like blind idiots who don't understand a high school level math is flawed, why the numbers they report is pure BS, when you show them actual data instead of propaganda, .....then they just resort to name calling. Frankly, that  just shows the level of debators intelligence or lack thereof.

Hi Dear Rosie

Thanks for the explanation.  Jaleho seems passionate, energetic and devoted.  Unfortunately, Jaleho also sounds irrational, illogical, stubborn, subjective and biased.  In response to my explanations/questions, Jaleho response is : "the chicken has one leg". I know you are not Iranian.  So  here is the story. 

Once Mulla was taking a cooked chicken as a gift to the governor.  On his way, he had a hunger attack and ate one of the legs, taking the remainder to the governor.

Seeing the one legged-chicken, the governor asked "What happened to the other leg?"

Mulla said:  "Your Excellency, in our city, chickens have only one leg.  If you do not believe me, look at the chicken by the barn." 

The governor went to the window and did as Mulla had said.  By chance, there were several chickens there, all standing on one leg.

Mulla said happily:  "Didn't I tell you, sir, the chickens in this town are all one legged?"

At that very moment, a servant appeared on the scene, and began to drive the chickens into their coop.  Of course, the chickens began to run on both legs.

The governor turned to Mulla and said : "You were lying, were'nt you?  These chickens have two legs, as you can see."

Mulla thought for a moment and replied:  "Sir, the beating they got with that stick scared them so badly that they grew another leg to run-away. 

I am glad you are back. 

"       

Dear Capt.

Below are some more good points that makes one feel there was fraud in this election.

The entire articele can be found in CNN:

//www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/06/16/iran.ele...

Daniel Berman, a graduate student in Iranian studies at St. Andrews
University in Scotland, called some of the reported results "genuinely
weird."

He said the official results show that Ahmadinejad
more than doubled the 2005 showing for all conservative candidates in
the western provinces of Luristan and Khuzestan, two majority-Arab
districts that have heavily favored reformist candidates in previous
races.

According to those results, Ahmadinejad won 71 percent of
the vote in Luristan, which is Karrubi's home turf. Karrubi was the
leading reformist candidate in 2005 but drew 5 percent in his home
province Friday, according to the official results.

Although
Karrubi won 17 percent of the nationwide vote in the first round of the
2005 elections, he racked up less than 1 percent in the official tally
Friday, Berman said.

Meanwhile, the reported turnout of more
than 80 percent should favor one candidate over another. But "there's
no correlation between turnout and candidate performance anywhere," he
said. And in the northern province of Mazandarin, Berman said,
authorities reported more than 1.9 million votes cast out of a reported
1.1 million eligible voters.

Berman said he's not only convinced
that fraud occurred, "I also think it's very sloppy, and I also think
it's very last-minute."

Ahmadinejad took about 63 percent of the
vote in the 2005 runoff, similar to his reported share Friday. But in
the first round of voting that year, he captured only 20 percent in a
field of seven. Meanwhile, Karroubi -- the leading reformist candidate
in 2005 -- saw his support plunge from the 15 percent he won that year
to less than 1 percent on Friday, according to the Interior Ministry
results.

In addition, Karroubi managed only 5 percent of the vote in his home province of Luristan in western Iran
on Friday, down from more than 50 percent in 2005, while Ahmadinejad
won more than 70 percent. Meanwhile, Ahmadinejad had a stronger showing
in the cities than in 2005.

Monda Jan

Welcome dear, however be very selective and careful. These is a posting in @mousavi , @iranelection and @riggedelection that warns of some bogus accounts that are allegedly started by IR in order to gather inelegance information.

Change your time zone to Tehran.

Regards

-YT

Capt Ayhab

Don't be so serious Aybab. The childish term I used did not necesarily refere to you only!
--mokhlesim Ayabe Azeez

Thank you capt_

I'm reading twitter and your links now.

‫ای ملیجک

‫‫با نیرنگ و دسیسه
‫امار آسون میریسه؛

‫ای ملیجک حیا کن
‫سفسطه رو رها کن؛

‫چو ایران نباشد، تن من مباد

Anonym7

Appreciate the brand  new name calling that you managed to come up with. It must have hurt a bit for you to have tried so much. It is kind of you to be so polite and respectful to other peoples opinion and emotions.

Nonetheless indulge us with the lessons you have learned from these events in past few days and let us all get educated by your vast array of [positives] that you have been able to figure out. No cheating though!

Inquiring minds can't wait to get a glimpse of vast ocean of your knowledge and analytical abilities about these event. And do make sure that entire world hear about it. It would be pity to leave them out.

And please don't be shy with any other childish name that you might be able to muster in next few day. I am sure I have heard uglier ones from you and kinds of you.

Regards

-YT

P/S Love is mutual ;-)

Kourush

Thanks for the reply. Hope you are not offended by my words, nothing personal.

I believe we can not (and should not) conclude the facts, from our simple observation of the different parties reaction. Because those, are simply the assumption, and we need more of the consistence facts to be able to pass a judgment on the recent events, than only the assumption based on our own perception which is (wanted or not) colored by the media's influence.

Having said that, as I always stated here, I am always with my people and will bow to their final decision, hoping they are not manipulated by the foreign elements.

Respectfully,

How the US coule help Iran

I think Obama should immediately remove sanctions against Iran! That is the best way the Iranian people will be helped. That would give great support to those who want change in Iran. It will make their case very valid. Once the perceived threat of war is gone, the regime will have no leg to stand on for its persecutions and oppressions.

Obama should also immediately ask for talks for the purpose of resolving animosity between Iran and US. These two actions will be a very effective blow to stupidity and ignorance and will remove the sources of oppression from the positions of power. 

NIAC war right, working on normalizing Iran-US relationship is the most effective way to help people in Iran.

Souri

First of all. I am not a warrior and i am not conducting any kind of war or battle with anyone. some of the things he/she says simply does not make sense to me. I, just like her/him, use my own logic to see "farce" and don't rely on CNN, IRIB, FOX for news feeds.

I respect your take on this, but if such was the case, why being reluctant from day one? As you may recall, They did not take the idea of reviewing the result of the election very cordially in the beginning and it did take some demonstration and some change-of-heart! on the side of the rahbar to make this decision. DO you call this proof that theyhave nothing to hide? And why only limit this to only certain voting pricints? Could it be that they actually have something to hide? What if the mousavi campaign has proof that there were irregularities in more voting centers that it was usually presumed? do you think that they will go for the idea of doing a recount in those other centers as well?

KourushS, with all due respect

Regardless of who is right and who is wrong, regardless of your word battle with Jaleho....etc. I just want to give you my own opinion. Here you said :

" Otherwise we would not have witnessed the quick resolution coming out
from the guardian council to go back and recount the votes in specific
locations where there  suspicios activities  going on and there was
some irregularities. That is their way of admission of their guilt."

How did you come to this conclusion? Would you please elaborate more?

In my eye (and I may be wrong) if they accepted to recount the votes in the presence of the other parties and in the neutral location, this only prove that they have nothing to hide from the people and nothing to be afraid of. Isn't it? How do you explain your reasoning here? I don't get it.

Thank you 

Capt Dramas (to Niloufar)

Niloufar, main point of my post was not arguing about the numbers. I don't see any reason for so much excitement specially from those of you who don't strongly believe in either of the main factions (Rafi's and Khamenei's). Although I voted for a candidate who definitely lost (Karoubi), I am very happy that so many people participated and more importantly so far both sides have not allowed the violence get out of control .... Iranians have grown. I rather look at the positives ... and leave the drama for the Capt Dramas!

Jaleho

The real absurd thing is to go back on one's word and admit that ok. the opposition may just be right and there just might be a chance for some cheating to have taken place. Otherwise we would not have witnessed the quick resolution coming out from the guardian council to go back and recount the votes in specific locations where there  suspicios activities  going on and there was some irregularities. That is their way of admission of their guilt.

That would even further legitimize the movement by the students, who by the way should not be called soosools neither by you nor the supposedly gholdor joonoob shahris. A big "shame on you" for whomever using that term. So there really as of yet, can not be a winner by a 2;1 margin. if even the votes in some of those pricints are recounted. Who knows what really may come out if the votes Are HONESTLY counted.

I think that the fact that the council agreed to do this in less than 48 hours, rather than the initial 10 day period, speaks volumes on what may have gone wrong and the pressure that they are under. Now why would they cave in under pressure if they had utmost confidence in their announcement. Something horrible is going on here.

Also keep this in mind. That it was the regime who started The real violence in beating and maiming the protestors. Every idiot in the world knows that burning tires and overturning trash dumbsters, does not really constitute violence, But once you start with the tear gas and then firing shots into the unarmed crowd, that is when you have brought violence.

voter boxes

//twitpic.com/7jlc1

-YT

Dear killjoy,

If you don't expect an answer, please refrain from explicitly asking questions!

Although not only your question was answered, but while doing so, certain data had to be printed leading to some questions by others, which were answered as well. So not much of a waste!

NAME THIS MURDEROUS IR THUG

//iranian.com/main/blog/capt-ayhab/name-i...

SINGED LETTER TO KHAMEBIE THAT SHOWS MOUSAVI THE WINNE. The letter is sighed by minister of the Interior Sadegh Mahsouli

//iranian.com/main/blog/capt-ayhab/signed-letter-interior-ministry-sadegh-mahsouli

-YT

ژاله جان بنازم به این انرژی!۱

I came back after a few days and your at it. It must be your  fever for mahmmod. you will make  a good queen #2.

Monda

Since most of the sites are off in Iran, I have been following the news in twitter namely some twitter accounts that I have blogged my self.

//iranian.com/main/blog/capt-ayhab/news-i...

these numbers appear in many blogs as well but I can not verify it.

Regards

-YT

يکي از خوانندگان انتخاب نوشت:

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عجب! شنيديد؟ کلهم، يعني همگي مان جمعه 22 خرداد به احمدي نژاد راي داده بوديم! خودمان هم نمي دانستيم، سندش هم وزارت کشور داره جزء به جزء رو مي کند!
در جهل مرکب بودم، تا الان فکر مي کردم، خودم، مادرم، خواهرهايم، همسرم، خانواده همسرم، خاله ها و دايي ها و عمه ها و اصلا محله مان راي داده ايم به ميرحسين موسوي، ولي نگو رأي داده بوديم به احمدي نژاد، به جان وزارت کشور و آقاي دانشجو! به جان آقاي محصولي!
همه آنهايي هم که توي خيابان ها جيغ و هوار مي کشيدند براي موسوي، همه شان تنها فکر کرده بودند راي داده اند به موسوي ولي نگو راي داده اند به احمدي نژاد! اصلا مهم نيست خودشان ندانند، يا تعجب کنند، وزارت مهم و معتبر! کشور که مو لاي درزش نمي رود، دارد اين موضوع را اعلام مي کند. اينطوري که اعلام هم مي کند احتمالا شمار آرا از تعداد واجدين شرايط هم رد مي کند، شايد يک 70-80 ميليوني راي داده باشند به احمدي نژاد.
دست مريزاد به وزارت کشوري ها که اينقدر سريع راي ها را مي شمارند، اينقدر سريع که خسته شدند، بعد گفتند نيم ساعت يکبار نمره هامونو که خيلي دقيقا رواعلام مي کنيم.
آخرين اخباري که به دست من رسيده مبني بر اين موضوع است که وزارت کشور اعلام کرده که علت شمارش سريع آرا اين است که دکتر کردان دارد ذهني حساب مي کند. شايد هم! والله به مغز کوچک ما که اين چيزها نمي آيد.
در زيمباوه هم 10-20 درصد مردم هستند که به موگابه راي نمي دهند اما بعدا در شمارش آرا مشخص مي شود که آنها هم رأي داده بودند به موگابه، اما ماشالله تولرانس انتخابات ايران 60-70 درصدي مي شود. الان 60-70 درصد جامعه مانده اند که واقعا به موسوي راي داده بودند يا نه هماني است که وزارت کشور مي گويد و به احمدي نژاد راي داده اند! خدا عالمه!

‫چو ایران نباشد، تن من مباد

Dear Monda, I guess

a better question would be: "do you even have any idea of how many people work per station, or are you assuming one person is handling 6500 votes," before you get too impressed by Captain's estimates, who himself gets too quickly impressed by an R^2 near 1 in a line ;-)

Dear Niloufar, GREAT question!!

And here's my guess:

The reason Ahmadinejad lost big in Sistan-Baluchestan seems to me exactly the same reason that there was terror prior to election, and that his first assissination attempt was carried there shortly after his first election also! It is one heavily Sunni region of Iran with least amount of devolopment,  and open to Afghanistan and Pakistan interference AND the foreign attempts of creating unrest in Iran. Those who voted are perfectly Iranian, I am not sure if they are genuinely pro-Mousavi, but for sure they are pro-overthrowing IRI and are heavily supported by Americans through Afghinistan and Pakistan. Also, the people there need much more equality and help that because of YEARS of being ignored, are still a disadvantaged population. No one should blame them for being pissed at whatever government Iran has had in the past 100 years!!

Also, you'll note that Ahmadinejad who actually was awarded as the great governor while he was in Azarbaijan (he has been the governor of Maku, Khoy and Ardabil), yet Mousavi wins in many parts of Azarbaijan just because he is a Turk.

However pay attention to extremely religious  (Shiite) places like Khorasan where Ahmadinejad has 2.2 million votes vs. Mousavi a 880,000 votes. Or Qom where he even gets almost 3 times Mousavi.

These results are compatible with the Terror Free thorough study of two years, and make perfect sense to me.

Capt_

Your calculations sound reasonable,thank you. How did you find the estimated # of vote counters?

Jaleho.wrote;...............Mina

Iranians WON BIG. And the highlighted part was:

" As a result, the student will be charged up for months and even years to come, and the fracture that was introduced in the well protected factionalism inside Iran will only grow deeper. This is the start of a new phase of maturation of Iranian democracy, and it can only get better from here on!

Please.allow.me.to.try.to.explain:

_____________________________________________

The.fracture.that.was.introduced.in

the.well-protected.craneum.inside.the

students'.heads.can.only.grow deeper.

As.a.result,.the.students.will.be.all

decomposed.permanently.for.the.maggots.

This.is.a.new.phase.in.the.maturation

of.the.maggots.and.it.can

only.get.better.from.here.on

for.the.maggots.

MAGGOTS.WON.BIG!

______________________________ 

Do.you.understand.Jaleho.better.now.Mina?

(It's.an.animus/shadow.kinda.thang..)

ps.Nice.to.see.you.again.so.soon.::o)

Time estimate for vote count

According to Interior Ministry following are the vote results:

Ahmadinejad   24,524,516

Mousavi   13,216,411

Rezaie   678,240

Karrouni   333,635

Voids    409,389

Total     39,162,191

Assuming each hand written vote take mere 10 seconds to count. 10 Seconds per vote is extremely conservative estimate since the votes are hand written and they are folded !!!

Total seconds needed:   39,162,161 X 10 = 391,621,910 Seconds

Man/Hour :  391,621,910 Seconds / 3600 = 108,784 Man/Hours

There were  an estimated  6000[unconfirmed] vote counters

Total hours needed for results 108,784 / 6000 = 18.1 Hours NON STOP COUNT.

Once we factor in error corrections and  fatigue we can easily say that some where between 24 to 30 hours needed for all the votes be counted and tabulated. Yet the Ahmadinejads friends in Interior Ministry published the results within 2 to 4 hours. They must have gotten help from Imam Zaman i suppose.

It takes longer than 2 hours for US fully automated voting system to give out the results.

-YT