There's been some astonishing revelations here at Iranian.com, recently, related to an Israeli connection involving AIPAC.
First and foremost is the banner ad currently being run for Stand for Israel, a pro-Zionist group (the image to the linked site is provided above). I'm assuming this a paid advertisement, and seeing how the publisher of Iranian.com is constantly posting photos from his gallivanting around Europe. I assume that's how he is spending the money he receives from such. Any comment, JJ?
Then today, there's the YouTube embed on Menashe Amir, a broadcaster on Isreal Radio International.It appears that, as some have suggested, Iranian.com has become pro-Zionist.
Initially, I had resisted the idea, but the ad, the editorial coverage, the AIPAC/WINEP articles unconventionally posted on the main page, it all now adds up.
This isn't unusual. The pro-Isreal groups have a lot of money and influence. That it commands the American mainstream media the way it does, it's a speck in the ocean to take hold of a mere Iranian social forum.
Pretty sad situation. But hey, JJ, be sure to post those pics from your next European location...
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Rosie,
by Mola Nasredeen on Wed Aug 11, 2010 09:06 AM PDTI really do appreciate your BS proof attitude regarding this situation. I know you're trying to get to the bottom of this matter and shed light on this subject. I know you like this website and you care. You're asking the IC managers/administrators to come clean and be truthful about the ads that are trying to start a war with Iran. Lets hope we will get an update from them.
Hey, I'm not the only one
by Sargord Pirouz on Wed Aug 11, 2010 09:01 AM PDTHey, I'm not the only one who found the pro-Zionist ads here at Iranian.com, so have many others. Apparently all it possibly takes is a a history of viewing Middle East subjects, such as Iranian.com.
Anyway, like I said, if you find the Israel lobby attractive, with its policy of advocating war to be waged against the people of Iran, then there isn't much more to be said for you. Is there?
That's really what we're talking about here: Apparent support here by the owner of Iranian.com for this lobby group and it's well stated advocacy of war against Iran. Hey, if you wish to "Stand with Israel" against the people of Iran, go right ahead and support JJ with this. In JJ's case, his anti-Iran stance appears profitable. Just think of the next photo gallery he'll be able to post on the main page of Iranian.com, from another European destination, thanks in part to the payoff provided by this anti-Iran group.. Nevermind the folks back in the Meehan that will suffer as result. Who thinks of them when they're sampling bubbly in Barcelona? Right?
Mouse, ALL I ASK IS ONE PERSON, ANY PERSON,
by Rosie. on Wed Aug 11, 2010 08:58 AM PDTto read Jahanshah's assertion at the bottom of the thread that he has no control over these google ads, and read my copy-paste to AM of google's explanation of the process for ads, that he found-- about two thirds up this thread, and explain CATEGORICALLY that there is NO CHANCE that a website admin could reject this type of ad. I've asked you, Mouse, now THREE times and ALL you do is LAUGH and TRIVIALIZE but you haven't explained ANYTHING. And right now imho you're acting thicker than Sargord. Prove me wrong. I WANT TO BE WRONG.
WOULD ONE PERSON-JUST ONE-PLEASE EXPLAIN, BECAUSE APPARENTLY NEITHER MOUSE NOR 'JJ' WILL.
Or back me up. Either way..ONE person--PLEASE EXPLAIN SOMETHING.
JJJ should keep d ads so we can have these little conversations!
by Anonymouse on Wed Aug 11, 2010 08:41 AM PDTSargord didn't you see the anti-Iran posters and the anti-Iranian logos? As we speak no one is more anti-Iran and anti-Iranian than your president, honorable, Dr. Ahmadi, PhD, P.E. who is the poster boy for the ultra Orthodox Jews and ultra Orthodox Zionists!
And it is you who is infected with the Israeli cookies not me! I stay with the rye bread!
Everything is sacred
SP, when Mouse says 'you are one' he means you're a fool,
by Rosie. on Wed Aug 11, 2010 08:36 AM PDTand actually sometimes you REALLY act like one. But NOT in this case. So do the smart thing. FORGET that it's about Zionist for now. IT COULD BE WALLPAPER. The FIRST issue is possible (no, probable) lying.
Exactly, Mouse, Just as I asked you a little while ago..
by Rosie. on Wed Aug 11, 2010 08:31 AM PDTare you sure you're not trivializing this because you think you CAN because it's Sargord's blog and you know a LOT of people here think he's a fool? I thought it would turn out to be a foolish allegation BUT IT DIDN'T. 'JJ' says he has no control over ads and google CLEARLY indicates he does. And over and over I keep asking for an EXPLANATION. And you keep saying 'JJ" didn't lie, and making JOKES. How do you know he didn't lie? Have you even bothered to READ the copy paste below from google that explains the procedure with ads?
Why do I have to keep on repeating myself? It doesn't MATTER if the ads are for MILK SHAKES. Please explain how you know he didn't LIE because he WON'T and I WANT your explanatin to be true, IF YOU HAVE ONE. It doesn't MATTER that it's Sargord's blog. Out of the mouths of babes...
Well Anon, what do you mean
by Sargord Pirouz on Wed Aug 11, 2010 08:31 AM PDTWell Anon, what do you mean "You are one." What are you trying to say?
This isn't about me.
Hey, if you're pro-Zionist, or you support JJ pocketing money provided by the Israel lobby, the same lobby that's trying with everything it's got to prompt the US into waging war against the people of Iran, that's up to you.
But realize that nothing could be more anti-Iran than that.
Sargord JJJ doesn't need to fool you. You ARE one!
by Anonymouse on Wed Aug 11, 2010 08:17 AM PDTEverything is sacred
Well come on now. The
by Sargord Pirouz on Wed Aug 11, 2010 08:14 AM PDTWell come on now. The pro-Zionist ads aren't a reflection on me. They're a reflection of Iranian.com.
Like I said, I do have extensive experience as an editor and publisher. JJ may be able to fool some of the folks here, but not me.
Other sites I've mentioned have had no problem making sure objectionable ads are permanently withdrawn. And the site's owners have shown responsibility by acknowledging the problem and providing a solution.
Not so at Iranian.com. Apparently, JJ doesn't find this a problem. That, my friends, speaks for itself. Is there anything more that needs to be said?
Cross-post. How do you know, Mouse?.
by Rosie. on Wed Aug 11, 2010 08:09 AM PDTHow do you know he didn't lie? Please explain. Maybe the allegations ARE funny, but lying isn't. And I encouraged Sargord to check google because I thought he wouldn't do something like this, but Google says he DID. And almost EVERYONE down on the bottom of the thread came running in to cite GOOGLE to explain this. ME TOO. So then, WILL SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN..(Preferably 'jj').
'JJ' DO YOU YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER THESE GODDAM ADS
by Rosie. on Wed Aug 11, 2010 08:03 AM PDTor don't you, because it doesn't MATTER whether they're for foam mattresses. You said you DON'T and Google says you DO.
(And the last thing I wanted was for this to happen. Just for the recond--for everyone).
JJJ didn't lie and finds these allegations funny.
by Anonymouse on Wed Aug 11, 2010 08:00 AM PDTEverything is sacred
Agreed, Mouse, under other circumstances that might be
by Rosie. on Wed Aug 11, 2010 07:58 AM PDTso, but not now. And I'll tell you why none of this is FUNNY (unless you say well THIS part is but THAT part is serious...)Because if Jahanshah thought this was funny, he wouldn't've lied. And if he didn't lie, he would've stepped up and said it by now here.
UNLESS he feels that he doesn't have to acknowledge any of this...because, you know, it's Sargord, and you're dancing around with a rose in your teeth and yada yada yada. And that's serious bias, when the issue appears so clearly serious..(and bias was your 'thing' on that Muslim blog, btw) but no, he's commenting on the art threads, as usual. (No, not gallivanting. Commenting).
Pitting Islamic Republic vs Zionists is as funny as it gets!
by Anonymouse on Wed Aug 11, 2010 07:46 AM PDTEverything is sacred
I'm sorry. MOUSE'S POSTS WERE NOT DELETED. And also...
by Rosie. on Wed Aug 11, 2010 07:41 AM PDTI have no idea why I thought they were. Maybe because I was so upset last night. But Mouse...also,and I hate to bring this up again, I REALLY do, and I'm NOT attempting to badger or 'expose' you...but you of all people should understand that this is serious, because you're the one who wrote that blog alleging potential editorial bias against Muslim submissions (or however you want to phrase it, if you can do better, please do...), and announced you were leaving in protest and stayed away a year. Mouse, this isn't funny. And more than that, it shouldn't be FUN. (It sure as hell ain't for me...)
My comments in Farsi weren't deleted
by Anonymouse on Wed Aug 11, 2010 07:34 AM PDTI wrote those comments because they make sense in Farsi but here are their transliteration of 2 of them using Google translater. BTW the title of this blog is Pro-Zionist not Zionist. Apparently Zionist ads was not good enough!
Zionist hands! U.S. dance! Now the picture! (Don't know where U.S. came from, I wrote Ahmadi :-)
What Major and Zionism are beautiful! Ayshala Mbarksh wind!
Everything is sacred
That's not the point, Mouse, ps
by Rosie. on Wed Aug 11, 2010 07:27 AM PDTand you knw it so stop fooling around.There is only ONE point right no and is that at the VERY beginning of the thread, the publisher said he had NO control over what ads appeared. AND IT SEEMS HE DOES. I don't really give a f-k about the Zionist ads to tell you the truth, but I do give a f-k about the lying. . And so should you. Well, hopefully, somehow, he DIDN'T LIE but then he should come out and explain. But he probably won't even consider doing that, if enough people like you triviallize this. And I didn't expect this to happen, and I said so CLEARLY before, and NO ONE feels worse about it than me, so don't think I have some..agenda..here.. And also, if you write later on in the thread, would you mind doing it in English? Your fairly recent Persian post was deleted, but anyway....
ps Are you sure you aren't using Sargord to trivialize this because you know many people don't respect him, so you CAN? Are you sure you'd make the same kind of jokes if it were...someone...else?
Here's Ahmadi's logo on the Zionist website. LOOK AT IT! LOL!
by Anonymouse on Wed Aug 11, 2010 07:03 AM PDTWall to wall anti-Iran posters with Ahmadi's ugly face!
Using Ahmadi as a logo on their homepage.
More Ahmadi logo
Everything is sacred
Sargord "objectionable material on their site."?
by Anonymouse on Wed Aug 11, 2010 06:52 AM PDTResponsible publishers don't want objectionable material on their site. They know it's a reflection on their effort, and themselves in general.
You think Zionists ads are the only thing "objectionable" in this website? Have you forgotten the "objections" to you and your "objectionable" comments in this website?
Earlier in the comments here there was a comment about your (objectionable) blogs and comments gathering interest and Zionists ads appearing.
Regardless, your rhetoric that echos Ahmadi's daily smack talk has filled the coffers of Zionists with donations like no one else in history! Just go to that website which advertised here and look at their logos for donation. It is Ahmadi's ugly face all over that place!
Everything is sacred
AntiMozakhraf,
by Mola Nasredeen on Wed Aug 11, 2010 06:45 AM PDTYou stated there's a way to filter google's ads:
"There are many ways to filter. If you want no political ads then you can block that category entirely. But let's say you don't mind some political ads but you do mind others. Then you can have your account set up so that you review each ad and approve or block."
Thanks for clarification.
VPK,
by Rosie. on Wed Aug 11, 2010 06:38 AM PDTright now this issue is the lying. Until/unless it's proved otherwise (which seems so unlikely...). There really is no other issue right now, I'm sorry to say.
But what I'm wondering is why would anyone do that? Lie when they so easily could be exposed? Jahanshah...
Google has an economy plan. For website owners with backpacks. Right?
Shah Forum,
by Rosie. on Wed Aug 11, 2010 05:35 AM PDTAnd you told me to stop being evasive. With your goddam winky wink smileys.
One question. Are you fully human, or did you emerge from the bog?
;o)
My post cross-posted with the two below. (SP-edited) PS
by Rosie. on Wed Aug 11, 2010 06:16 AM PDTIt took a long time to write.
Sargord, you made the accusation, you opened up the debate, now a lot of people are probably going to be upset (including, dare I hazard a guess, the person who--as I phrased it below--gives you this place to shoot your mouth off, with his BACKPACK oh his back), and you just walked away and didn't even say whether you'd be back, let alone whether you'd do this one thing I asked you to do so many times, which was THIS. I wound up doing it. AM and me. Hours and hours of me with you, and AM and I wound up googling. And him brand new. So may I ask you to GET OFF YOUR MORAL HIGH HORSE, wouldya please? _____________
ps So where are you now, Sare-gourd? Are you even checking this thread? Ah, no...I see from the comments section...you're GALLIVANTING around the website, luxury liner to luxury liner, on 5 star threads.
You know, AM..
by Rosie. on Wed Aug 11, 2010 06:40 AM PDTI didn't say he wasn't a slimebucket. I just said I didn't think he'd do this. Partly because of egocentrism, actually. He likes to be able to say ro himself that he's his own person. Don't you, Jahanshah? I'm assuming--hypothetically, of course--that AM read it right. But how could he not have, when you think about it? Suppose a website' is sellng something--other than freedom for free, I mean--why would they not have a mechanism so they wouldn't have to advertise their competitors?
I don't understand. I mean, like you said, AM, how much could he make off of those ads? So why bother having them? Actually, it isn't undebatable that they shouldn't be here. But it is undebatable that to lie about it is wrong. Tell us there's an economy plan option that we didn't notice, will you please, Jahanshah?
__________
Moving along, AM. They kiss his a-s because he gives them this. They don't all kiss it but a lot f them do. They will be disappointed, but then after five minutes most of those will just look the other way. You probably think I'm the biggest a-s kisser of all. My situation is...different.
Anyhow,, to go back to your question, which is highly relevant now, fhe difference is that when you accept such ads for advertising, people see them. That's all. It isn't so much that it's morally wrong. It's more like...politically wrong, I guess. However, the real issue is the lying. That's morally wrong.
But if you ask me I still think there's an economy plan. Just kidding. Oh, and btw, he does travel through Europe with a backpack. As you already knw. Well, anyway, AM, welcome aboard.
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ps Dear The Moderator, I was just trying to help. You know me. Always there. Dependable.
Like I said, I've seen this
by Sargord Pirouz on Wed Aug 11, 2010 05:11 AM PDTLike I said, I've seen this kind of thing happen in the past on other sites. However, these sites didn't contain pro-Zionist ads, they were deemed offensive for other reasons.
When the offensive ad was identified, the site's owner apologized, looked into the matter and made the necessary changes. They did not say: "Oh no, it's not my fault!"
Responsible publishers don't want objectionable material on their site. They know it's a reflection on their effort, and themselves in general.
JJ has the power to exert editorial and advertisement control over Iranian.com. And let's face it, folks, it's now indisputable that pro-Zionist material and support based ads are featured on this site at JJ's discretion.
Money Zionists
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Wed Aug 11, 2010 04:57 AM PDTI keep hearing this business about Zionist money. But I never see any of it. Why don't I ever get any Zionist money. Am I not anti IRI? I am plenty opposed to Islamism but that money remains illusive.
I must therefore conclude that this is mostly BS. That the Islamists put up a fake thing just to work themselves up. Google ads are just that and a legitimate way to make money. Good for JJ!. We are not idiots. We know how he makes his money. I speaking for myself say: I don't mind it. A fair way to fund Iranian.com and prefectly moral; legal and whatever else you may say. Now how about Iranian wealth given to Hizbollah!
And
by AntiMozakhraf on Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:40 PM PDTI still see no difference in making money from Zionist ads and taking money from resident ic Zionists.
Well sort of
by AntiMozakhraf on Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:36 PM PDTThere are many ways to filter. If you want no political ads then you can block that category entirely. But let's say you don't mind some political ads but you do mind others. Then you can have your account set up so that you review each ad and approve or block.
Bottom line is Javid's response is absolute rubbish. There are many ways to block any single ad or group/category of ads assuming one wants to.
I suppose all the idiots kissing his arse all day has him thinking everyone is an idiot.
ps However,
by Rosie. on Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:30 PM PDTsince apparently Sargord only found one or two, it's possible that they just slipped through due to whatever pressing circumstances that either the Sphinx or his Adman (depending on who's in charge of this procedure) were under that particular day.
Well then it means that...
by Rosie. on Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:24 PM PDTassuming that the ad Sargord chose is considered political, if the political category is filtered--which I don't think it is, but I'm not sure--then this ad should be filtered automatically with the entire political category.
And if it's not filtered then it could be blocked by previous review of all political ads coming in. Assuming it's considered political. Is that right?